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PDX-ONT Alaska Air Group Freq/capacity Change  
User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6077 posts, RR: 24
Posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2965 times:

As of March 6, Alaska Air Group will add capacity and freq. to the PDX-ONT route. This will include the dropping of Alaska Airlines aircraft. The current schedule is AS 1 daily (737 or MD80),QX 2 daily (CR7). March 6th will start QX 6 daily.(all CR7)

Sorry Lenald....I'll find out where they will realocate the AS aircraft. Maybe another PDX route.

ASSFO


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2941 times:

Maybe it's time for AS to send a 73 PDX-DCA? What kind of 73 are they pulling out of ONT? Interesting none the less . . . .

User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6077 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2936 times:

Well currently we fly a 73G PDX-ONT. But in the spring when the schedule is changed it will be an MD80. Alaska can't do PDX-DCA due to slot controls and no slots are available. Bill Ayers also told me personally not to long ago that the next DCA slot Alaska get will be another SEA flight. I asked of the possibility of a SFO flight and that was the answer. So I doubt you'd see a PDX flight unless Alaska somehow got a few slots at DCA. A very slim chance there!

ASSFO



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User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2930 times:

Does WN fly PDX-ONT.......or PDX to any SoCal airport?


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2913 times:

I knew about the slot controls at DCA - but was speculating - as so 99% of the other widgets on this site. . .I agree a SFO-DCA flight would be better than PDX-DCA . . . but other carriers already have a SFO-WAS route. I don't of any that go to DCA tho.

More speculation, or wishful thinking - no chance AS is going to try send that 73G to HNL? Ha Ha . . . I wish they'd done that a long time ago . . .


User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6077 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

Ejmmsu......Southwest serves

PDX-ONT 4 direct via SMF
PDX-LAX 4 direct via SJC/OAK or SMF
PDX-SAN 3 direct via SMF/OAK
PDX-BUR 4 direct
PDX-SNA no non-stop or direct

So no they don't!

ASSFO





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User currently offlineEjmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2904 times:

Thats interesting. However, the WN stops on the direct flights are so short that if the flight was cheaper, I wouldn't mind making the short stop on the way. Also the 737 is more comfortable than the CRJ.


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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2774 times:

Has anyone around AS heard any more MSY rumors lately?

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2702 times:
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I'm pretty surprised that WN doesn't serve any LA-area airports nonstop. Looks like UA goes to LAX 4x, along with AS/QX service. I would have expected WN to be in on that route.

What PDX needs is better nonstop service east of Denver, particularly another flight to New York, and maybe another to Washington. As it is, there's only one n/s to EWR and IAD each. Considering all the PDX-Washington flying my company does, I can't imagine that a WN PDX-BWI nonstop wouldn't do well. And, I argued all along that AS should have tried one of the DCA slots for PDX, but oh well.

As it is, WN's longest n/s flight from PDX is to MCI, which makes for lousy east coast connections. How about a flight to MDW? Makes sense to me...

Until PDX can get better service eastbound, instead of piddly flights to SLC or DEN or SJC or DFW, not much is going to change here. And, yes, I'm aware of the market-can't-support-the-flight argument, but I simply disagree: I think the demand is there for PDX-BWI, or another PDX-EWR or PDX-JFK, and certainly PDX-MDW...


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

A few other speculative possibilities for the soon to be freed up AS 73G . . . how about SEA-ATL? Perhaps a SEA-DFW? Even with the codeshare agreement between DL and AS - AS has always provided that it will fly from SEA to where ever it wants. Oh Boy, here's one that just popped into my head: How about ANC-HNL? Now that would be sumthin!  Big thumbs up

Let the bashing begin . . . .

[Edited 2004-11-23 11:28:30]

User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2660 times:

ANCFlyer-to provide more insight into your question, DCA is the largest airport market from SFO that is not served nonstop, and SFO is the largest airport market from DCA that is not served nonstop. The only issue is that most aircraft will likely be weight-restricted on the DCA-SFO flight due to weight restrictions, and the best plane for that route, as a result, is probably an A-319. I have a feeling that if we ever see anybody on SFO-DCA, it will likely be either United or US Airways, due to both having the A-319, as well as United having a hub at SFO, and US Airways having a large operation at DCA.


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2661 times:

Thanks for the elementary education on flying from SFO to DCA . . . the only aircraft AS has that could do SFO-DCA, if that was what I was talking about, is the 73G. Can't put a 739 there, too many pax, if I recall the post 9/11 restrictions properly. If memory serves AS started the SEA-DCA route with a 739 and had to change it based on that issue.

I would agree a 319 is the ticket - since I'm a "bus" guy, but I don't think we'll ever see US doing it - matter of fact, I don't think we'll see US doing anything in a few months, unfortunately (that's not intended as a stab at US since I've got a bunch of miles that will go byebye). I think UA would do well there if they could get the slot at DCA. I also think it would be quite a coup if AS got in there with a 73G from SFO.

My posts in this thread are intended simply as speculation about what AS will do with a now uncommitted 73G . . . that's all.



User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6077 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

OK...let me clear a few things up. The freed a/c will be an MD80, not a 73G. As I said the current flight is a 73G, but in March before the schedule change it will be a MD80.

Tom- nothing new on MSY. Keep ya posted

ANCFlyer- ATL had been a ongoing rumor. Here is my opnion on it. ATL is a very long flight. We codeshare with DL. We should just put our pax on DL, and use the AS medal for a shorter flight. SLC is a good possibility w/ DL putting so many CRJ's on the west coast soon. HNL, not happening! To pricy to ETOPS certain planes and Alaska makes it very clear that each plane should be able to fly anywhere (with a few exceptions)

SHUPirate- I would have to disagree with you on the best plane equipped for DCA-SFO. The 73G is just as capable as a A319. Maybe better! On the slots, US is the only airline to file a DCA-SFO request. UA filed for DEN and got it.

ANCFlyer-Alaska did start DCA-SEA w/ a -900 and did not change it due to weight issues. It was the downturn in the economy. The 73G fit better. The -900 was redeployed for better markets and help start Florida service.

**** Breaking rumor and facts ****
Back to the subject titled. Fact-Another CR7 comes online March 6th, the day of the new schedule. Rumor- as I was writing this a CR7 Capt. said he heard that one of the F9 CR7 was returning to QX service as part of the F9 scheduling changes. I'm checking into this one!

ASSFO



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