Btblue From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 543 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 9213 times:
I doubt it.
They know what they are doing and I would imagine somewhere down the line somebody has given them the nod. Now it's a matter of procedure before they commence flying the route.
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12562 posts, RR: 64 Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 9105 times:
Y'know, everyone here has been quick to dismiss what C-boy is saying, but it does happen to airlines occasionally.
Case in point? Alaska Airlines - definitely a top-notch air carrier - began offering nonstop YVR-SNA service, and went full-tilt to market it. Flights were booked up months in advance, and loads were good.
Just one little problem - even though customers pre-cleared U.S. customs in YVR, laws still required the presence of a U.S. Customs and Immigration facility at SNA for the service to operate.
Oops.
End result? AS had to change the flight to a one-stop YVR-SEA-SNA flight to comply with the laws, losing tons of business in the process and refunding many tickets from disgruntled customers as well.
A big SNAFU happening at VS isn't as far-fetched as some people might think. Odds are things will be fine, but you never know!
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 9055 times:
Still, if VS does not get this clearance, then CX loses LHR-JFK.
And Fred, starting a lot of posts lately. That is a bit out of character. I thought the nasty surprise was going to be you spray painting over the 4 engines 4 long haul on the A340s with 2 engines 2 profitability.
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N754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8960 times:
I hear they are operating this flight as a daily charter as they do not have the ok. There are adds all over Hong Kong for this flight, including one in Admiralty station that has a A346 running all the way down one wall.... a good 100meters!! (A340-1000 )
JeffDCA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8673 times:
It has little to do with business sense per se - such "nasty" surprises have happened to the best of airlines.
I think not. Take 9/11 for example, thats one very nasty surprise, but because of VS's business sense, yup, that's right, business sense, they saw what was happening, and dropped all their non profitable routes (ORD for example), and well well well, look what happened, they came out strong!
Airplane From Ecuador, joined Sep 2004, 248 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8508 times:
It could happen.
We have to see if they get the pax right of traffic between HKG-SYD-HKG, and not just the operational.
CX must be screaming up in the air here.
Gecko From Singapore, joined Sep 2004, 68 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8391 times:
Well it wasnt al that long ago that a similar thing happened to Virgin Blue.
They went around proclaiming a certain start date and I believe also pre-sold tickets (can't be certain) that was until CASA advised that an AOC had not been granted.
Consequently for whatever reason (I believe CASA proving a point) did not issue an AOC for Virgin Blue before their claimed start-up date.
So I suppose case in point, It has happened to Virgin, involving Australian authorities so I wouldn't say it couldn't happen again.
HB-IWC From Greece, joined Sep 2000, 4414 posts, RR: 76 Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8309 times:
Let's not forget that VS has also this other application up in the air... Sales and marketing for the LHR-BOM flights are up and running, yet the airline is so far not guaranteed the frequencies to operate the service in a couple of months' time, although this case is purely U.K.-related and does not involve any foreign authorities.
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 8199 times:
VS have more than enough business sense behind them to make sure they get the clearance in time.
There are airlines who've survived far longer, through far worse, with far more to deal with.... that have had such incidences happen to them. VS is certainly not immune.
In fact, I'll venture to say that not only is it possible, but probable in this particular case.
A340Driver From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 94 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7592 times:
Who hasn't approved the route? It was approved by the EU, HK and OZ authorities a long time ago. Where did the 'not approved yet' rumour start?
It was initially due to start in June of this year but was delayed waiting for final approval from the EU.
It's all ready to go from LHR on December 6. There is even a new HKG Clubhouse opening for it.
A340Driver From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 94 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6668 times:
Virgin will commence HKG-SYD on 7 Dec, it has been approved by all authorities. Who do you think hasn't approved the route license? As an airline, I think we should know before we set off! Especially as I am scheduled to fly one next month!
It is not operating as a charter flight but as an extension of the scheduled service VS200 from LHR to HKG.
I guess that seeing a VS -600 in SYD will prove one of us wrong.
PlaneMad From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2003, 533 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4295 times:
Isn't VS starting 2nd daily to HKG from LHR and that flight continues to SYD? If so are both daily flight VS 200/201?
Sam D.
25 MIAspotter: Cool! Can't wait to see those A346's in SYD, and who knows... maybe fly on one of those there too! Go Virgin Atlantic!! MIAspotter
26 A340Driver: It's one flight a day LHR-HKG-SYD as an extension of the existing VS200. The idea wasn't to capture UK-OZ traffic but the OneWorld duopoly HKG-SYD rou
27 Lutfi: It hasn't been approved by the EU yet, but HK and Australia may give it approval on a charter basis until EU approval arrives.
28 A340Driver: The launch was delayed from June to December awaiting EU approval, do you know of a further EU approval that is now required?
29 Aerofan: So does any one know if the UK to India slots have been allocated as yet. Can't seem to find anything on whether or not the decision has been made. Ha
30 Aussiestu: Did the original VS flight to HKG sit on the ground for ages and thus they can add the flight to OZ now? If so does that change flight plans for peop
31 A340Driver: The A340-600 has the largest Upper Class suite capacity in the VS fleet, the target for HKG-SYD and the reason for operating it against the 747-400. A
32 Cx flyboy: EU ruling on the approval was expected a couple of weeks ago, but has now been delayed till after the new year. As others have mentionned, HKG and Aus
33 AlitaliaMD11: Hey still about VS, does anyone know when they will comence the LHR-DXB?? Want to fly them, there in Feb.
34 A340Driver: Cx flyboy, Interesting news. What is the source? We haven't heard anything about it at Virgin.
35 Aerofan: I'm curious about your two posts. See below. The one to CXfly boy would indicate that you work for VS> The first however, would indicate you do not an
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