AirbusCanada From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1955 times:
manuals dont' go to the HQ. They go to where the aircraft is based. Only a handful of crj-200 manuals goes to Halifax. Rest of them goes to Montreal, Toronto, London, Calgary, and BC.
Lymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1133 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1868 times:
"Manuals" is a bit vague. Pilot, flight attendent, bag smasher, A&P, ops....all have their own set of aircraft manuals. Some departments have more elaborate ones for certain, but given the HQ is in YHZ, I'd guess that maybe the ops/dispatch manuals are the ones you're referring to.
CaptainGomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 59 Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1696 times:
Far too much ignorance here on airliners.net!!!
The 705 is actually a 900, but configured with 75 seats. Kind of a messed up model number, as they should just call it a 900 and let the airline put as many (or few) seats as they want.
The 700 is shorter, and has 70 seats in a tighter configuration. The 705 will have something like 33"-34" of seat pitch in Y, and will have a separate J-class cabin, so definitely an excellent product from a passenger comfort perspective.
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Planemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 5479 posts, RR: 35 Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1640 times:
"I'm also suspecting the manuals are for operational purposes, or even perhaps for training of personnel to get ready for the addition to the fleet."
Depends where the "manuals" are coming from - BBD or Jazz, as that will give an indication of what the contents of the "11 boxes" are. If the "11 boxes" are originally from BBD, then they most likely only contain a copy of the IPC.
"The 705 is actually a 900, but configured with 75 seats. Kind of a messed up model number, as they should just call it a 900 and let the airline put as many (or few) seats as they want."
While you are correct that the 705 is basically the same as the 900, they are certified as 2 different aircraft - just as the CRJ440 is certified as a different aircraft from the CRJ200. The main advantages to the operator is that since the aircraft is certified to a lower weight the purchase price is cheaper, and weight and pax capacity operational charges are also cheaper. It is common to certify an aircraft destined for Europe at a lower weight and pax capacity because ATC and airport charges are significantly higher there than in North America.
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CanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3371 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1539 times:
So what is the point of operating a 900 with the capacity close to a 700? Wouldn't it be just as easy/cheap to get 700s? Maybe the bigger 900 carrying loads similar to the smaller 700 mean more range, or shorter runway lengths, or something??
CaptainGomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 59 Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1504 times:
So what is the point of operating a 900 with the capacity close to a 700? Wouldn't it be just as easy/cheap to get 700s? Maybe the bigger 900 carrying loads similar to the smaller 700 mean more range, or shorter runway lengths, or something??
CanadianNorth
It means a far more comfortable cabin, plus the addition of J Class seating. It means AC thinks it can command greater premiums with a more comfortable cabin. It also means a longer range, and thus more flexibility with the aircraft. I'm interested to see if the experiment works, and I hope it does.
"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
Samurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2451 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1447 times:
The 705 is actually a 900, but configured with 75 seats. Kind of a messed up model number, as they should just call it a 900 and let the airline put as many (or few) seats as they want.
You know, I'm not going to be surprised to hear these kind of things, especially among spotters, when the first of those come into service:
"WTF!? Nobody said AC was getting CRJ-900s!" or
"Awfully long plane for a CRJ-700!"
But given the proposed capacity, seating arrangement and seating pitch even in Y, I'm sure the responses will be a lot more positive.
Crj 900 From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 584 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1383 times:
Sorry to those who said the 705 is going to YHZ, they are wrong....it is going to YYZ...CONFIRMED....a few will be based west with the remainder in Toronto....we just received confirmation of base closures, YYJ,YXU and YQB are being folded. YHZ will concentrate on Dash flying and be greatly reduced...no RJs for them....:-(
CRPilot From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1351 times:
I can't seem to find any pictures on our data base. Is there any links you guys know of? By the way, other than the Bombardier website which requires Flash 5....they won't let us have it at work!!!!
AirbusCanada From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1245 times:
Manuals" is a bit vague. Pilot, flight attendent, bag smasher, A&P, ops....all have their own set of aircraft manuals. Some departments have more elaborate ones for certain, but given the HQ is in YHZ, I'd guess that maybe the ops/dispatch manuals are the ones you're referring to.
I think there has been some confusion here. When I said 11 boxes of manuals
(60Lb each box) that means every manuals, totaling about 150 or so 4inch binders. Structural repair manual, illustrated parts catalogue, wiring manual, pilot opt manual, flight opt manual, ground opt manual and so on. They are going form BBD to AC jazz.
They usually ship one of these set of manuals with each new delivery. If I am not mistaking FAA/Transport Canada wont’ let you fly the plane without most of those manuals on board.
Planemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 5479 posts, RR: 35 Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1129 times:
"They usually ship one of these set of manuals with each new delivery. If I am not mistaking FAA/Transport Canada wont’ let you fly the plane without most of those manuals on board."
The only manual on board when the aircraft leaves the plant is the AFM. FYI, a copy of the IPC is not included with each aircraft... what is Jazz going to do with 15 copies of the 30-binder IPC??? Logically, it makes sense that only the CRJ maintenance bases have a hardcopy of the 30-binders, especially since it is also available on CD. The Flt Ops, Grnd Ops, etc. manuals are not from BBD as those are obviously Jazz generated manuals.
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