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LH DC-10 Enroute FRA-BGR-LAX Real, Or Error?  
User currently offlinePwm2txlhopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1324 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

This afternoon while viewing the local traffic arriving into the area airports on flytecomm.com, I noticed LH 8252 enoute to BGR from FRA. The equipment listed is a DC-10. Can anybody tell me if this is an error, or indeed fact? I'm positive this type hasn't been an active part of the fleet for at least ten years now. Right now at 5:20pm EST time, this flight has departed BGR and enroute to LAX? My curiosity has gotten the best of me today. If anybody could tell me what this is about I would appreciate it!

Lufthansa Flight Number 8252
Departure City (Airport) Bangor, ME (BGR)
Departure Time 11/28/2004 02:11 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Los Angeles, CA (LAX)
Arrival Time 11/28/2004 06:36 PM
Remaining Flight Time 04:22
Aircraft Type McDonnell Douglas DC-10 (all series)
Current Altitude 35,000 feet
Current Groundspeed 407 mph
Flight Status In Flight

Airline Lufthansa
Flight Number 8252
Departure City (Airport) Frankfurt, Germany (EDDF)
Departure Time 11/28/2004 11:23 AM
Arrival City (Airport) Bangor, ME (BGR)
Arrival Time 11/28/2004 12:40 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type McDonnell Douglas DC-10 (all series)
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Arrived

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User currently offlineAAplatnumflier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3340 times:

If that is in fact true than I am going to go head out to LAX. Somebody please verify this!!

Thanks in AAdvance!!


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5991 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3332 times:

The high number would suggest either a codeshare or a cargo flight? Perhaps LH Cargo have leased a DC10 in? I can't think of any other explanation.

The most far out description I can think of, is that it's an AMC charter, since World usually operates them & they tend to stop over in Bangor. I have no idea what a LH code would be doing on that flight.


User currently offlinePwm2txlhopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1324 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

If this is fact true, and I could have had this confirmed to me, I would have driven two and a half hours from PWM to BGR this afternoon to see it for myself. Earlier, while enroute to BGR, the continuation to LAX had not been posted. I just noticed it a while ago when I rechecked, half expecting to see the this flight either continuing to Victorville, or Goodyear... Or have been corrected to MD-11 cargo equipment..

User currently offlineClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3301 times:

Indeed, all Cargo flights start with 8xxx. This is leased equipment from Gemini Cargo.


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User currently offlinePwm2txlhopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1324 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3279 times:

Aww, I knew it was too good to be true!

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7408 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3137 times:
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It might be a charter by World Airways. I think they are carrying cargo LH.


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User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3947 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

GCO DC10-30F.

RK  Smile


User currently offlineVikingair From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

Actually it's World Airways DC-10-30 reg N304WL....

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 3048 times:

From a 1988 LH Timetable: There was one daily 747 non-stop FRa-LAX, and on Tuesdays, an LH DC-10 one-stop routed FRa-YUL-LAX (flight #452), and a Thursday LH DC-10 one-stop routed FRa-BOS-LAX (flight #456). Both return flights were non-stop LAX-FRa.

In subsequent editions, those two particular flights disappeared. I wonder if they had any 5th freedoms on the Montreal-Los Angeles route.



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User currently offlineDABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1200 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2863 times:

Yes, it's a World DC-10F reg. N304WL (like already mentioned) operating for Lufthansa Cargo. Normally there is no flight FRA-LAX on Sunday.

There was a technical problem (not sure what) on one of the LH's own MD11 last week and FRA-LAX flight was cancelled - I believe this flight was leased to help to recover the cargo from the cancelled flight!





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User currently offlineKBGRbillT From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2542 times:

I was working the ramp @ BGR the night this flight arrived and actually fueled it (final fuel load of 138,000 lbs.) It was a World DC-10-30F N304WL flying cargo for LH on its way to LAX.

User currently offlinePwm2txlhopper From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1324 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2499 times:

That's a coincidence. World DC-10 N304WL operating for LH Cargo with an aircraft that started its life as a LH bird.


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