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New Beijing Airport To Be World's Largest!  
User currently offlineLegalEagle From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 44 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7209 times:

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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7179 times:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;sessionid=1OBXJE3SFLS5LQFIQMFSM54AVCBQ0JVC?xml=/news/2004/11/29/wbeij29.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/11/29/ixworld.html&secureRefresh=true&_requestid=18078





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User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3671 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6990 times:

A new airport being built by the Chinese government in time for the 2008 Beijing Olympics will be the world's biggest and be "truly awesome", according to its British architect, Lord Foster.

I also hear it's going to be "totally rad" and "gnarly to the max". Party on, Lord Foster!



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6921 times:

Since when is HKG the largest of anything... other than island airports.


Yes, it's the world's busiest international-cargo airport, but still.


User currently offlineBuckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6625 times:

HKG's terminal building is, at current, the largest building in the world. I believe that's what he's referring to, because I don't think architects design things like runways and cargo aprons.

User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6622 times:

I think largest is meant in context of a single building structure.

User currently offlineBoeingnut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6601 times:

Isn't the Boeing production facility where they do final assembly of 747s the largest building in the world by volume?

User currently offlineThegregster From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6525 times:

That's right the facility in Everett is the biggest building in the world in terms of volume, im not to sure what buckfifty means do you mean largest terminal building?

User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6375 times:

Does the HKG airport need all that terminal space? I would understand a cargo facility being the largest building in the world (HKG is the proverbial Constantinople of modern day trade in the East), but not a passenger terminal, what a colossal waist of money.


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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2491 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6356 times:

Isn't O'hare the biggest? or at least the bussiest?

User currently offlineLHR27C From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 1279 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6279 times:

HKG: largest single airport terminal.
ORD: busiest airport in the world by movements.
Largest building: depends if you are measuring it by volume. Everett, I agree, although NASA liked to think it was the Vehicle Assembly Building...



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User currently offlineBuckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6234 times:

That's right the facility in Everett is the biggest building in the world in terms of volume, im not to sure what buckfifty means do you mean largest terminal building?

Sorry, you're right, it's the largest terminal building in the world.

Does the HKG airport need all that terminal space? I would understand a cargo facility being the largest building in the world (HKG is the proverbial Constantinople of modern day trade in the East), but not a passenger terminal, what a colossal waist of money.

Not really, the terminal is being utilized at peak times to capacity, and is more efficient than dividing the airport into separate, smaller terminals. The future plan is to build another terminal across on the other end of the island, in the shape of an X. I've heard construction may begin by 2008 or 9, but that's speculative on my part.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6174 times:

The future plan is to build another terminal across on the other end of the island, in the shape of an X.

I thought that was to be just a concourse, not a terminal.


User currently offlineAADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6116 times:

Is the airport mentioned in the article a new airport or is it a new terminal at the current PEK? I presume it is a new terminal, since they appear to have the space. The current terminal was inadequate for domestic flights even when it opened, about 6 years ago.

I had a six hour wait at PEK between a domestic and international flight (on Sept. 11, 2001, concededly) and there were not enough seats on the landside and United did not start to check in passengers until 2 hours before the flight. There were only a few, overpriced restaurants and shops. The airside has seats, but little else. The best place to wait seemed to be the food court in the basement. I passed through last year and it had not seemed to have changed much.

They have a lot of room for improvement. It is still better than the earlier terminal, which had a real communist train station feel to it, with the lime green tile and thermal water containers.

Isn't DEN the largest airport if you go by land area? What is the largest in combined terminal space? DFW? ORD? ATL when the new international terminal is completed?


User currently offlineJsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2074 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6083 times:

The article is unclear if the project involves an entirely new airport on a greenfield site or simply a massive expansion of the existing Beijing-Capital Airport. I recall seeing plans about a year ago for three or four new runways at the existing PEK and a giant terminal complex. All of this would be located to the south of the current PEK facilities.

If that's the case here, in my mind that doesn't constitute an entirely new airport. It's a giant, massive, very impressive expansion, similar to the work being done at Madrid-Barajas. A NEW airport would be akin to Shanghai Pudong or the new Guangzhou - a completely new facility built from scratch on a new site.

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User currently offlineB2443 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6005 times:

Jsnww81,

No its not going to be an entirely NEW airport, rather a new terminal plus a new run way on the existing site of the current Beijing Capital Airport.

The claim "biggest" is something new, however. The Chinese media never mentioned this as of now.

Some background of the new terminal/runway:
1) the new terminal (T3) is supposed to be super efficient: a passenger will only need 4 minutes after checking-in getting to the most remote gate in terminal.
2) Location of T3 will be 1,525m east of current eastern runway, occupying 350,000 sq m.
3) when the new run way and T3 open to public, PEK will be able to handle 60 million pax a year, 2-3m tons of cargo; 500,000-600,000 take-offs and landings per year
4) the new run way will be 3,800m in length, 60m in width;
5) new terminal T3 will have 94 gates, capable of handling A380.
6) still being planned is the transit connection between T3 and T1, T2.
7) everything should be completed by the end of 2007.
8) construction of the terminal has started with 7762 foundation columns poured complete as of Sept 27, 2004.

So when the new terminal is in use, it should put PEK in top 5 worlds busiest airport in terms of pax volume.


User currently offlineBuckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5962 times:

I thought that was to be just a concourse, not a terminal.

Semantics, perhaps. I suppose it is merely a concourse, as it won't have it's own dedicated customs and check-in facilities. But the building will almost be as big as the current terminal, which perhaps will make it into the largest concourse ever built.

Go figure.


User currently offlineKCmike From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 537 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5483 times:

Are you sure that this project will be done for the games in 2008? For a building and project of this scale, 3 years seems to be limiting. Im not an architect or anything but I know that these big projects can take awhile to put up.

Mike



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User currently offline767ALLTHEWAY From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5414 times:

I thought that ATL had surpassed ORD in terms of aircraft movements?


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User currently offlineJsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2074 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5231 times:

KCmike -

I wouldn't put anything past the Chinese in getting this project done on time. Generally speaking, countries in Asia (Japan notwithstanding) don't get bogged down in public inquiries, environmental impact studies and NIMBY appeasement. When the airport reaches capacity, they build a new one. End of story.

The pace of construction there has been nothing less than amazing. In the 1980s new airports went up in Jakarta, Singapore and Taipei. In the 1990s Osaka, Hiroshima, Hong Kong, Kuala Lumpur, Shenzhen and Xian got new airports. This decade, we've already seen new airports in Shanghai and Guangzhou, with Bangkok, Kobe and Nagoya opening next year.

Those of us in North America and Europe should be green with envy. It takes us fifteen years just to get a new terminal or runway approved.


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2978 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5101 times:

I think the article mean the biggest airport in China.
There has been previous discussion involving the largest airport in the world by area and that title belongs to Riyadh airport but in reality Denver is the largest practically speaking.

As for building airports, HND opened a brand new terminal for ANA up today and two years ago, the land occupying it was a just a hole in the ground.

The new section of the airport at PEK will probably up open in 2007. I was there a couple of weeks ago and they are clearing the site and building the foundations. Even the current facilities are now approaching capacity and its only a few years old!


User currently offlineUnitedkatw From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4019 times:

I am very excited to see a picture of what this is supposed to look like.

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