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Aloha To End South And West Pacific Service  
User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1353 posts, RR: 15
Posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4626 times:

Having already announced ending service next week from Honolulu to Rarotonga, Aloha Airlines announced yesterday that they are also ending service to Pago Pago in American Samoa, and to Majuro in the Marshall Islands as well.
Read more :http://starbulletin.com/2004/12/03/business/index1.html

HALFA


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4586 times:

That is too bad, but as the article pointed out, there is still HA to Pago Pago and CoMike to the central Pacific, so all is not lost.

Airlines all around the world are experimenting, and quick to shed the unprofitable routes.



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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3636 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4425 times:
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What I find interesting is that they used to make money flying to KWA and MAJ. I was told that the money was in cargo they carried to those destinations, not pax service. The pax would carry all kinds of items that are heavy/large that would either incur overweight charges or have to be shipped as cargo.

User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1353 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4375 times:

HA763,
Indeed, the passengers on this route do bring lot's of things with them. When HA flew the HNL-KWJ-MAJ route years ago as a wet lease from Air Marshall Islands, I had President Kabua's (Of the Marshall Islands) grandsons on board and they carried on live chickens that proceeded to run up and down the aisles of our DC-8 combi. A memorable moment in my career!  Smile
As far as the announced ending of PPG service, I have to say it's not a huge surprise judging from their load factors on this route.
Good for HA, bad for people in American Samoa.

Aloha,
HALFA



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User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4200 times:

What I'd hate to do is fly on AQ from the Mainland to Hawaii in a 737 !!
Yuck !! That would drive me crazy being in a single-aisle plane for 5 hours or so. We just flew on HA from LAS/HNL/LAS on a B-767 and that was the nicest flight I've been on in a VERY long time.

From the ground staff, to the flight attendants on-board, everyone at HA was so helpful and friendly, so unlike most of the other domestic carriers. I guess the Aloha spirit is truly a way of life for the Hawaiians.

We are going back in two years and once again, we'll be flying on HA.

I'd definately give them an 8 or a 9 on a scale of 1-10.


Jay


User currently offlineKalakaua From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1516 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4138 times:

Jay...

Please don't tell me that you are one of those psychotics who run up and down the isle, beads of sweat on your forehead, always looking out the window? I really doubt you get out from from seat more than twice...

I felt just as comfortable when I flew AQ's 737 across the Pacific in my little Y-Class 31" pitch seat, as in my HA 767 Y-Class 32" pitch seat.

If you knew Aloha Airlines, and their levels of comfort and service, you'll take a second look. AQ makes up for the pitch with the extra goodies, such as free headsets (unlike HA's $5 charge even if you have your own headsets), milk and cookies, free mai tai, etc...

And yes, I love both HA and AQ... I've worked with them in the past, and each are unique and the best of airlines in their own way. But to compare AQ and HA because of their airplanes? That's sad, because I bet AQ could make more money, if people like you weren't so picky...  Sad  Smile



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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4103 times:

I am crushed!!! When I retire in a couple of years(hopefully), I was going to fly em to Rarotonga and spend 10 days with no phones, newspapers or TV...nothin' just me and the waves. I read alot about this spot and I gotta get there. I am sorry it won't be on Aloha.
I'm not kidding, gang. Check this place out....Its boring and beautiful, and off the beaten path.
So who flys there?
safe



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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25013 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4097 times:
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Air New Zealand flies non-stop to Rarotonga from LAX three times a week.

cheers

mariner



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User currently offlineKKMolokai From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

I believe Air France flies nonstop from LAX


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User currently offlineCospn From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3872 times:

Sorry to see them go  Sad I work for CO but it is still nice to tell people they have a choice of Carriers ...

Of Course this will help our Much needed Bottom Line to Serve the MAJ Non stop from HNL cant carry as much freight now that JON (Jonson Island Is Closed FOrever  Sad )


User currently offlineHawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3188 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 3093 times:

JayDavis wrote:
What I'd hate to do is fly on AQ from the Mainland to Hawaii in a 737 !!

Would you do it on an American or ATA or Northwest or United 757? Those are also single-aisle planes. I've done the AA and ATA 757s, and the AQ 737, and I'd rather take AQ any day.

Would you fly one of the many transcontinental 737/757/A320 flights? Those flights are just as long.

David / MRY


User currently offlineQQFLYER28 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 2935 times:

JayDavis wrote:
"What I'd hate to do is fly on AQ from the Mainland to Hawaii in a 737 !!"

I actually flew AQ in September and I found their product to be surperior to anything the majors are offering to Hawaii. Great staff, good food, clean cabin comfortable seat, it was the best way to go to the islands. I would recommend it to anyone.

James.




User currently offlineCragley From Australia, joined Jul 2004, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 2864 times:

Slightly off the topic, but does anyone know how HA is going on their SYD route?

User currently offlineFoxecho From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 746 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

Cospn-When did Johnston Island close?

I have a friend who witnessed a few of the above ground Nuke shots out there in the early 60's a few Megaton class blasts too.....he flew Constellations in and out of there for support missions during th tests......

Andrew
JFK/MEM/MCI



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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6449 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 2716 times:

Foxecho,

I don't believe that Johnston Island ever had "nuke" test blasts. It had other secret stuff but not nuke testing.


User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1353 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 2695 times:

Cragley,
I work our HNL-SYD-HNL trips each week and they are doing GREAT! The loads are consistently heavy and our CEO, Mark Dunkerly, was quoted in last weeks Pacific Business News that HA is looking to expand the Hawaii-Australia service and are looking into starting service to another Australian city. Speculation here at work is that it will be Melbourne.

Aloha,
HALFA



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User currently offlineAa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2335 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

AF to Rarotonga, from LAX? I don't think so.........PPT is more like it.


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