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User currently offlineMike77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5214 times:

Now that Air New Zealand has been operating into SFO for almost 6 months, I was wondering if anyone knows how the loads are doing on the SFO-Auckland route. Thanks.



Michael

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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5162 times:

SFO is performing above expectations. The route will be one of the first to go 777 next year and frequency may well increase.


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User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5033 times:

If SFO is performing better than expected, why not keep the 744 on the route?


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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5015 times:

Presumably to allow an increase in frequency - it is only 3 times weekly at the moment...

V/F



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User currently offlineGasman From New Zealand, joined Mar 2004, 882 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4828 times:

I will certainly be using SFO as my gateway to the US - anything to avoid terminal 2 at LAX....

User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5359 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4778 times:

SFO was/is due to be the first route to get the new long haul product from June next year aswell.

Good to see its going well!


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12339 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4713 times:
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ZK-NBT
SFO was/is due to be the first route to get the new long haul product from June next year aswell.

AKL-LAX-LHR is the first route to get the new cabins, with the B744
AKL-SFO is the first 'real' route to get the B777 with the new cabins


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5359 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4700 times:

777ER
I was under the impression that until there was enough aircraft ready that SFO would get the 744's first before LAX-LHR. LAX-LHR takes 3 aircraft to run a daily service so that would mean that only 2 maybe 3 services a week would get an upgraded aircraft until there was more than 1 aircraft reconfigured.


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12339 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4678 times:
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ZK-NBT
LAX-LHR will be having the first flight of the new cabin 744s


User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4662 times:

ZK-NBT is correct. SFO will be the first route to receive the new product, in the second week of June 2005..

AKL-LAX-LHR will follow, when enough aircraft are available to operate the new product on every daily flight.



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User currently offlineRichardJF From New Zealand, joined Mar 2001, 792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4636 times:

Are they going to have connexion by boeing on the upgraded 744 and 777?

User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4617 times:

The IFE will have cached websites available, but not live internet or email. However, NZ has requested the system be designed with the capacity to add these features later.



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User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7110 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4539 times:

Yes, so SFO is the first route with the 777 and the new peoduct (not including the familiarisation flights probably going trans tasman) when will SIN or HKG see these aircraft?

User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

I guess that SIN and HKG are the next destinations to follow for the 777. To both destinations NZ has big competition in the form of SQ and CX which have a superior product. NZ's other 763 routes to Japan, TPE and the Pacific are not that heavy rivalled.

User currently offlineZKOJH From China, joined Sep 2004, 1725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

cant beleave that they been flying 6 months, god thats got to be a route to keep flying on maybe see double services in the near future!! keep the money comming in.. just waititng to see what there half year profit will look like in feb ?! and getting even more excited for the new product, cant wait nearly another 6 months tho!!

and as for terminal 2 at lax well ill be there in Jan, only my second time ive flown here, not looking towards it tho, can't we move the london route up and through SFO??!! be much nicer..

ANZ youve done us good keep up the good work!!!



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User currently offlineEta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

Any news on how CHC-LAX is performing? Do you think this route will remain or...
a) capacity shifted to SFO?
b) re-routed AKL-LAX?


User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4288 times:

>Any news on how CHC-LAX is performing?<

I have heard it is also doing well and will go to a daily 777, much like AKL-SFO



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User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4273 times:

Any news on how CHC-LAX is performing?

My parents flew CHC-LAX two weeks after service was inaugurated. They said that the load was real light (tons of open seats). I'm sure that passenger traffic will climb as publicity of this route grows.

pilottim747



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User currently offlineRichardJF From New Zealand, joined Mar 2001, 792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

Will the success of AKL-SFO encourage them to fly AKL-PPT-ORD or something like that?

User currently offlineNZblue From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 638 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4218 times:

Any news on how CHC-LAX is performing?

02-26-290 is the load tonight as of right now on NZ19 LAX-CHC, if anyone is interested.

Not totally full, but not amazingly empty, either.

We've been having a good run with the new CHC service! Like pilottim747 said, as word-of-mouth spreads about this service (and of the South Island of New Zealand itself as a destination), I'm sure we'll see this service become more popular when it is re-introduced as a 3x/weekly service in November 2005 (beginning in April 2005 and through the end of October 2005, this flight will only operate once-weekly on Sunday's from LAX).

NZblue

[Edited 2004-12-06 01:22:41]


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User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4214 times:

>Will the success of AKL-SFO encourage them to fly AKL-PPT-ORD or something like that?<

Probably not for 2 reasons. First, there is already a lot of capacity on the PPT-US routes, all throught LAX, with TN, AF, NZ all operating scheduled services. The biggest customers for those routes are cruise operators and high end package vacation sellers all can route through LAX with usually no more than 1 stop. Since NZ is a STAR member and partner with UA on most of their US domestic flights, they can just route ORD pax through LAX or SFO without having to dedicate equipment or staff to ORD



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User currently offlineRichardJF From New Zealand, joined Mar 2001, 792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4162 times:

Personally I would of thought SYD-AKL-ACA-ORD would work really well for NZ.
Mexico City being at Altitude probably isn't realistic for a fully laden 744.
Such a route gives

1. A direct link between NZ/AUST and Mexico for businessmen.

2. Direct route to the US Northeast and Canada

4. Strengthens AKL to Australia


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12339 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4010 times:
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Any news on how CHC-LAX is performing?

From what I have heard it is very sketchy. Best that TG992 answers this question.

EDIT: grammer

[Edited 2004-12-06 10:16:04]

User currently offlineZonky From New Zealand, joined Nov 2004, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

We're booked in C in Early Jan, and currently only about 15 seats in that class taken (CHC-LAX).



User currently offlineSkycruiser From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3948 times:

If SFO-AKL will go 777, won't this flight be weight restricted? I remember flying AKL-LAX on a 777, and about 30 seats had to be left open.

How many seats are usually left open on the CO's EWR-HKG?


25 RichardJF : I think when United flew LAX-AKL with the 777 it was 180min ETOPS but NZ maybe 207mins ETOPS although I'm not entirely sure. They are looking to run L
26 RayChuang : If NZ flies the 777-200ER on the SFO-AKL route, it will be interesting to see if they can fly close to a full load on these flights. It will depend on
27 N1120a : >If NZ flies the 777-200ER on the SFO-AKL route, it will be interesting to see if they can fly close to a full load on these flights. It will depend o
28 Nz1 : AKL-LAX-LHR is the first route to get the new cabins, with the B744 AKL-SFO is the first 'real' route to get the B777 with the new cabins TG992 is cor
29 Superfly : So I guess I should enjoy the NZ 744 at SFO while it last.
30 Gasman : Seeing as the first upgraded cabin is scheduled to come on line in 6 months, how come we can't book "premium economy" yet?
31 ZK-NBT : Have the CHC-LAX flights affected loads on AKL-LAX at all?
32 Nz1 : No idea as to why you can't book prmium economy Gasman. I don't work in reservations. One guess would be that until enough upgraded aircraft are avail
33 Zonky : Ditto, from a set point, you can no longer book first. Presume a one-class food service in Biz/First, but priority seating for Frequent Fliers. (On ol
34 SunriseValley : Returning to the ETOPS issue; I cannot see it having any relevance since ANZ are currently flying 767 -300ER's over the same route ; admittedly non-s
35 JoFMO : Idon't think that SFO stole LAX a lot of traffic. NZ kept it's frequencies to north America unchanged. Befor introducing SFO they had 17 flights to LA
36 TG992 : ZKOJH and as for terminal 2 at lax well ill be there in Jan, only my second time I've flown here, not looking towards it tho, can't we move the london
37 The777Man : Many thanks for the info on the first 777 routes! Hope to fly AKL-SYD or vv on the NZ 777 in Oct or Nov 2005. Nothing in the CRSs as of Friday even th
38 6thfreedom : What proportion of USA business do Australian residents provide Air NZ. Would also be interested to see how the 5pw same plane B744's between MEL and
39 ZK-NBT : I read that the LAX-LHR sector is very lucritive in an article in the NZ hearld a few weeks ago, and that was kind of stopping NZ from moving away fro
40 Post contains images NZ747 : number one a bit off topic... but.. What happend to the idea of the NZ 744's being named and having a New Zealand city decal?
41 Post contains images ZK-NBT : Welcome to the forums NZ747. Hope you enjoy your time here. I guess the names and decals will be applied as the cabins are upgraded. 6thfreedom From B
42 ZKSUJ : NZ747, welcome. I heard that the names will be painted on very soon when the various aircraft go in for their checks. I remember reading that it will
43 Post contains images 777ER : Welcome NZ747, hope your stay is a long and enjoyable one What happend to the idea of the NZ 744's being named and having a New Zealand city decal? Th
44 Nz1 : 777's will be used solely on AKL-SYD-AKL and AKL-SFO to start with. Further aircraft arrivals will see them deployed on CHC-LAX and into Asia, with ne
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