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AA Set To Commence Irish Flights  
User currently offlineGreenjet From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 954 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5682 times:

According to today's Irish Times American are to serve Chicago and Boston from Dublin and Shannon. The daily services are expected to begin May 2005 and an official announcement may be made as early as Monday. Should spawn a nice bit of competition on the EI routes.

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User currently offlineAaer 777 From Ireland, joined Aug 2000, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5611 times:

What equipment would you reckon they are going to use on these routes?
Will they both be 767-300 or maybe 777 on ORD-DUB?



Which part of "NO" do you not understand?
User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26414 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5605 times:

I am guessing that this is the beginning of the end for EI in OneWorld. I wonder if they do 757s from BOS, so they do both SNN and DUB


Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineRemymartin11 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 67 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5573 times:

If history is any guide and dirtball Dan Garton has anything to say about the service, they will use 757 with no amenities in FC. Americans first class should be renamed - "Coach Plus"

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7549 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5453 times:

It would be a 763 from ORD
757 from BOS, if this is indeed true.


User currently offlineFlewGSW From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5389 times:

General Information:
* Latest Changes updated as of December 3, 2004.
Next http://www.aa.com load reflecting the latest changes is December 5, 2004.

BOS - SNN Effective May 1, 2005 757-200 (sold as all coach, best customers placed in first class seats.)

ORD - DUB Effective May 1, 2005 767-300 (ORD-HNL reduced from two to one daily nonstop.)


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5347 times:

Americans first class should be renamed - "Coach Plus"

....why not, that's how they've been treating their intercon Business class for yearssssss.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32689 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5267 times:

The schedules are:

AA 212 BOS 2025-0715 SNN 757 Daily
AA 211 SNN 1125-1255 BOS 757 Daily

AA 92 ORD 1935-0850 DUB 763 Daily
AA 93 DUB 1100-1250 ORD 763 Daily



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User currently offlineAa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

AA will indeed be using a 763 on the ORD-DUB flight, and reduce their ORD-HNL traffic to one daily. My CFI will be flying one of the first flights to DUB on the AA 763. Very exciting news to see AA doing into other countries in Europe!!!

AA777jr


User currently offlineAa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2353 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5026 times:

Just don't get why one is SNN, and the other would be DUB. You would think they would do both to DUB, or a Triangle out of BOS. It does seem that EI, in Oneworld is not doing so good. Also, will we see BOS-MAN, back in the game?


"The low fares airline."
User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 765 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 5007 times:

Though Im a big EI fan I think this is great news, yet another american carrier into DUB, though whether US will be around too much longer we will just have to wait to see. Think AA are the best u.s. airline though must say i've never travelled on one of their 767s


Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlineAa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2353 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4977 times:

It looks like flight 96 JFK-MAN, will be operating next year again for the summer season.


"The low fares airline."
User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7549 posts, RR: 28
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4975 times:

Phew, I checked since I'm flying on an ORD-HNL segment in June, fortunetely they are keeping flight 72/73, which is the one I'm on.



User currently offlineORD2PHL From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4788 times:

Aa767400:

To the best of my knowledge, part of the agreement between the Irish and the US is that you must serve both Irish cities (Dublin and Shannon) if you wish to serve Ireland via air.


ORD2PHL


User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26414 posts, RR: 76
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4759 times:

>Just don't get why one is SNN, and the other would be DUB. You would think they would do both to DUB, or a Triangle out of BOS.<

Since BOS has such a big Irish population, they can fill a 757 to SNN alone, and then run the 763 ORD-DUB with no SNN stop, because of the 50/50 rule.

>It does seem that EI, in Oneworld is not doing so good. Also, will we see BOS-MAN, back in the game?<

EI has had a contentious relationship with OneWorld, especially AA, for a while now. Mainly because AA has strong market share in BOS and JFK and wants to fly their own metal to Ireland.

BOS-MAN is already going, with the same 1 class 757 service as BOS-SNN will have. It is a good idea what they are doing, as they can maximize yields with a much more simple fare structure.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineAerlingus330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4697 times:

"To the best of my knowledge, part of the agreement between the Irish and the US is that you must serve both Irish cities (Dublin and Shannon) if you wish to serve Ireland via air."

Your right, but its not an agreement with the American and Irish. If there were a Canadian airline going form Ireland to Canada, they would have to do it as well.
I think its more if an airline is going Transatlantic out of or into an Irish Airport (Dublin or Shannon), it has to do it...Even Aer Lingus have to serve half of there flights either from or a stop off in Shannon airport.

aerlingus330



Aer Lingus Airbus A330-300
User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4634 times:

Great news! And I have to believe that AA's decision to do this was partly due to the success of the BOS-MAN nonstops. Passengers accepted the 757 overwater, making such 'long-and-thin' routes viable. Had BOS-MAN failed, I don't think you'd have seen the SNN service.

Now, here's an issue: Delta Airlines is set to open up a pretty spiffy terminal of their own at Boston next year. It was my belief that they were contemplating some international service, and that Ireland was a likely market. Indeed, with Boston having such a large Irish-American population I have always been puzzled as to why only an Irish flag carrier served the market and not a U.S. one as well.

So, with AA's entrance doesn't this spell checkmate for Delta's desire to serve Boston-Ireland as well? Three's a Crowd in this market--even with it being a strong market--so I have to believe DL has just been snookered. I don't know what other international markets exist that DL could enter with any hope of succeeding. Italy is the only one that comes to mind. They failed miserably at London (as did UA), so what else is there?? And when plans for the new Delta terminal were announced, it was with the expectation that international service would debut.

It appears now--to this observer at least--that the Delta terminal in Boston will open in 2005 with a rather underwhelming array of service...and probably none of it new.

And now...back to our regularly-scheduled program: Kudos to AA for launching this service!! Good job!

Chris in NH


User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 4546 times:

On a flight around 6 hours, what do you want???
Let's insert the new flat beds and the flagship suites and how about an all flight buffet instead of a Y cabin. Please . . .
They don't sell the F seats, they give the seats to the elite members and full fares passengers. So it's not like you're paying for someting you aren't getting. The Bos service takes less time than a transcon but, as you'll have it, let's run a 777 across to DUB or SNN for 4-5 million people and while we are at it make it 5x daily.
SR



W N = my Worst Nightmare!!!!!
User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4091 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4471 times:

Indeed, the BOS-SNN flight is a pretty quick one. I think if there were two planes in Boston, one heading west to Denver and the other heading east to Shannon, they'd probably arrive at the same time. That kind of flight is absolutely 757-worthy. Coming back the other way it's of course longer (wind in your face, plus a more northerly ETOPS routing), but a 757 on this flight seems almost Princely when you realize that AA is using 737s (!) between Boston and LAX.

Chris in NH


User currently offlineFlewGSW From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4210 times:

BOS - MAN starts back up for the summer season on May 1, 2005
BOS - CDG starts back up for the summer season on May 1, 2005
ORD - GLA starts back up for the summer season on May 1, 2005.
ORD - FCO starts back up for the summer season on March 2, 2005
JFK - FCO starts back up for the summer season on April 3, 2005

and still to be announced is BOS - GLA on May 1, 2005.


User currently offlineMD 11 From Germany, joined Sep 1999, 195 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4044 times:

By the way,
SNN-BOS: 4650km
BOS-LAX: 4200km
BOS-ANC: 5400km

bos-den is only 2800km


User currently offlineAAplatnumflier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

AA is smart adding all this service to Ireland and all of that but I am still waiting for them to upgrade LAX-BOS. I think they should operate a 757 LAX-BOS then have it continue on BOS-SNN then come back. Although they probably wont it would be a ton better than those 738's for 6 hours.

User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3984 times:

Does this mean that AA will stop or continue codesharing with EI????

User currently offlineEIPremier From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1549 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3955 times:

I'm not sure if I like the sound of an AA 757-200 on SNN-BOS (or other transatlantic routes). I flew on one earlier this year and found the economy seating to be extremely uncomfortable. The cabin had the old light blue seats which lacked padding and were pratically threadbare. Is AA in the process of upgrading their 757 interiors?

User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined Mar 2001, 529 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3899 times:

AA and EI are both One World members. But I don't think they will be code sharing because they fly on the same routes. For instance BA and CX are also a One world member. They don't code share on flights from LHR-HKG & HKG-LHR. But EI code shares with BA on flights to and from the UK only using EI a/c. BA also doesn't code share some flights with smaller a/c with EI to Ireland as they operate small props or Embraer-145's.


Split Scimitar or Sharklets?
25 GustyOrange : FlewGSW, Is BOS-GLA firm ? If so do you have any idea when it'll be announced ? This is great news for us all in Glasgow if AA pick up where NW left o
26 GLAGAZ : I wonder what the hold up is. If it is still to be announced then why not announce it? There must be something there that isn't right, possibly stand
27 N1120a : >I think they should operate a 757 LAX-BOS then have it continue on BOS-SNN then come back. Although they probably wont it would be a ton better than
28 Mcmahonsmr : This is indeed great new, and I've been waiting for this for years. One concern: I notice that the AA flight from DUB leaves 1100am. What's going to h
29 LH423 : As N1120a said, the reason the 738s are now used on the route rather than the mix of 738s, 757s, and 1 767-300 is that with the removal of MRTC from t
30 NYCAAer : I'm thrilled AA is adding new transatlantic flights, especially to Ireland. I hope the new service does well, since AA is always quick to drop a route
31 GLAGAZ : "Although, as much as I'd like to see BOS-GLA I don't think that it would be financially successful." By all accounts this was a very profitable route
32 Aacun : Both flights are already open for booking as of today Dec. 5.
33 Aaway : "Also, do any Boston members know if AA will be able to disembark at Terminal B? Not a Boston member, but if I'm correct, Term. B at Logan does not ha
34 AA787 : Why is BOS getting all of these new flights...what about JFK (they're European Gateway)? AA787
35 Jfklganyc : Good question AA787. One billion dollar terminal opening. I still can't fly anywhere near the amount of cities Delta serves nonstop from JFK. I would
36 AA787 : Does anybody know why JFK is getting shafted here? AA787
37 LH423 : Yes, but Ireland has US Immigration pre-clearance. I know Aer Lingus arrive and depart from Terminal E, but they get fast tracked right through immigr
38 Sllevin : Okay, we've got BOS-SNN and ORD-DUB. But where's the BOS-DUB and ORD-SNN? Unless both flights are continuing to the other city, there's something miss
39 MAH4546 : Okay, we've got BOS-SNN and ORD-DUB. But where's the BOS-DUB and ORD-SNN? Unless both flights are continuing to the other city, there's something miss
40 Post contains images Murtagh1108 : I notice that these are daily flights until the Winter timetable kicks-in, when they will go to 3 weekly flights. Will finally be fantastic to have AA
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