Klc317 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3353 times:
I spot often at CVG and although I rarely fly from there, or on Delta for that matter, I notice that they still operate a ton of the 737-200 series planes. They are great (and noisy) to watch land and take off. I am just wondering how long these will be in service. I have flown on many 737s, but never an older bucket and would love to try and fly on one before they are retired.
DeltAirlines From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3268 times:
The retirement process should be starting next year. They have 50 of them in service, so it will take a little time before they're all gone, probably by the end of 2006, 2007 at the latest. Definetely a great plane, it seems like every time I connect through CVG now one leg of my journey is on a 737-200, the other is on a Comair CRJ.
N1120a From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3108 times:
>I dunno I've seen alot of "WA" registrations out there... those birds have gotta be aging<
Most of the ex-Western -247 birds are actually younger than the original DL -232 planes, the newest apparently of 1987 vintage. That is 17 years old, not young, but certainly not too old to be very useful
RyanL1011 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 12 months 2 days ago) and read 2936 times:
not sure if its still this way but when I worked for Delta in DEN we had 737-200 service from SLC to DEN and back to SLC, that was the only time we saw the 737 (back in the mid-late 90s, otherwise we were only doing MD-88s, 90s, 727, 757, 767, and once in awhile the L-1011, we even had a MD11 make a medical stop in DEN once, sure was beautiful having a L1011 next to a MD11.
DeltAirlines From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2835 times:
There is also a daily GSO-CVG flight...it's the first flight of the day (about 0645) and the third to last flight CVG-GSO (its an 1850ish departure). I was on the GSO-CVG flight two weeks ago, and I'm on the CVG-GSO 737-200 flight next month.
Klc317 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2811 times:
hirisk, I make it there about every other weekend for a few hours. It's only about a 25 minute drive from my house. I've always been an aviation buff, but just recently got into going to the airport and actually watching, scanning, and photographing. CVG is a great place because there are several good areas to be close to the runways.
Vimanav From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2771 times:
Actually Delta's B737-200 are not that old. They were all built in the mid/late 1980s. Actually I think Delta took delivery of the last B737-200 built.
You are right on the first part. All of DL's current B732s are from the mid 80s with the youngest being delivered in JUN87 (f/n 1403 registered N382DL). DL did not however take delivery of the last B737-200.
Was that not Xiamen Airlines & now Blue Dart [VT-BDH].
Yes indeed, c/n no. 24236 f/n no. 1585 ex B-2524 and currently VT-BDH is the youngest B732 airframe.
Monorail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2161 times:
If we're talking about 50 732's and all those cities served, it's probably going to take more than a redistribution of the CRJs and MD-88s to alleviate the switchover. If DL has already planned on retiring the 732's, what are their long-term plans? The easy, short-term answer may be to CRJ's, but that is an awfully high amount of routes. Is there a sizable system-wide reduction in routes and frequencies on the way? Or am I neglecting to consider new or near future acquisitions? Of course, I'm not trying to equate the DL 732's to NW DC9's.
Sspontak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1897 times:
I took one of Delta's classic 737-200 last Sunday night from TPA to CVG. The aircraft was in very good condition. I was surprised at the good seat pitch as compared to their MD-88's. I noticed that first class went from 12 to 8 seats. Did the extra pitch go to coach?
Ejmmsu From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1719 times:
The easy, short-term answer may be to CRJ's, but that is an awfully high amount of routes. Is there a sizable system-wide reduction in routes and frequencies on the way
I know there will be a slew of ASA CRJ's that will become available after the closing of the DFW Hub. I'm not sure how many they had based there, but it was the majority of their presence at DFW. I think the CR7's will be moved to SLC, but i'm not sure about the CR2's. Then there is also the smaller but still substantial mainline presence at DFW, which i believe was mainly 733's. It is possible that the redistribution of aircraft after the closing of the DFW hub will cover the loss of the 732's.
DL seemed content on offering CRJ's on long routes out of DFW, so maybe they will be just as liberal replacing 732 routes with them.
Wjcandee From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1609 times:
Grinstein acknowledged that customers HATE the CRJ on long routes, so hopefully the 732s won't be "replaced" with RJs. Yecch. (Moreover, as much as some people are afraid of 737 classics, at least they haven't had a dual engine failure recently...)
Phollingsworth From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 12 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1593 times:
The problem with replacing the 732s with mainline a/c is what to replace them with. Your only choices at a plane for plan replacement are the 717, 736, and 318. The 736 and 318 are heavier and longer ranged that what DL uses their 732s for (unlikely DL would go Airbus). Further the 736 would actually more expensive from a flight crew perspective than the MD-80 is (737NG payscale). The 717's future is in doubt. As for replacing them with E195s, this is unlikely due to the scope clause which would force them to be mainline a/c and limit their profitability. My guess is DL will up and downsize the 732s to CRJ700s and MD-88s when they are replaced (this assumes the 733 family will go simultaneously). This would allow 737-7/800s to be picked up to replace the MD-88 positions to maintain capacity.
Of course give a/c age and usage DL will have to deal with their 762s and early 763s first. They are already hangar queens
Of course all of this assumes DL will be in a cash flow position to execute these options.
: As mentioned in another thread here,BUF will get 732's to CVG in Feb.
: I know how DL will deal with replacing the 732s. I heard they're getting a few of NW's DC-9s! -Joe