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NWA A330 Heading For ANC  
User currently offlineNwaclc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5041 times:

For any of you spotters in ANC, NW flt 7 is heading your way for a medical emergency. Est arrival time is 0310z a/c 3351 which was sched to go sea-nrt. Will stop and offload pax and continue to nrt.
NWACLC

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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4779 times:

I wonder if that passenger will have to write apology letters to each of the passengers and write a 5-6pg. paper about how dumping fuel hurts the environment and the impact it has.....

Hope s/he is ok.

Thanks again.

UA777222



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User currently offlineAAplatnumflier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4730 times:

No i Was not on this flight.... but that is a good one UA777222!!

User currently offlineNwaclc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4483 times:

Hey that was pretty funny....only one problem, NW 330's cant dump fuel.

User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3299 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4421 times:

So its going to be a heavy landing?

User currently offlineGeg2rap From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4277 times:

they can't??? can other nw heavy's I was on a 757-300 once sea-msp that diverted to bil and we flew around for a while to dump fuel, (I was angry cause the guy was sick before we boarded and they were begging for volunteers to bump, even after we boarded)

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4260 times:

It was definitely a heavy landing, yes.

can other nw heavy's I was on a 757-300 once sea-msp that diverted to bil and we flew around for a while to dump fuel

The Boeing 757 does not feature a fuel dump subsystem. You may have flown around for a while to burn off a little fuel.

N


User currently offlineKindjordan From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4070 times:

Just a bit off topic question....Nwaclc , you said that the 330 does not have the ability to dump fuel. Considering this is a rather LARGE aircraft...what would happen, if on takeoff they had an engine out????....how would it be possible to land such a big plane....with ONE engine...fully ladien with fuel?....do they fly around on one engine for hours to burn fuel...or destroy the landing gear???....any input would be apreicated-J

User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 854 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3958 times:


"A330 cant dump fuel"

Source, please!

Micke//SE



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User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3902 times:

It's correct. NWA's A330s are certified w/o fueldump valves. They are considered 'extra equipment' and would have brought up the cost of the aircraft. NWA chose to order the aircraft without these valves. I read this in a technical forum somewhere - don't remember the site ...




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User currently offlineVirginlover1 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3834 times:

Isnt that second NWA A330 to have a problem. i think the first was on monday october the 4th, if i am wrong please let me know


if it fly's i will photo it
User currently offlineJano From Slovakia, joined Jan 2004, 827 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3606 times:

Virginlover1

re Isnt that second NWA A330 to have a problem. i think the first was on monday october the 4th, if i am wrong please let me know

This one was a medical emergency (read the post #1). So, unless the a/c had "a severe headache" we cannot say it was NWA A330's problem Big grin



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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3501 times:

NW's A330s, in fact most if not all A330s, don't have a fuel dump system. Its pretty simple.

N


User currently offlineDan2002 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 2055 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

LN-MOW, just ignore Solnabos comments, he is just a little irate that something negative happened involving an Airbus.


-Dan



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User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

LOL .. no I don't take a comment from Solnabo seriously. His level of intelligent contribution on this forum doesn't deserve it.

But I know what I read and Gigneil confirmed it.



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User currently offlineKindjordan From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2788 times:

boy this is getting interesting.......ok so seeing that theres no fuel dump on a 330...could anyone estimate the possible seniero of engine out on takeoff....and how the crew might deal with it?.....were talking fully loaded 330 ....struggling to gain altitude...cant dump fuel. just wondering



User currently offlineJafa From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 782 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

Air Transat has a fuel dumping system on thier A330's. I joke about this only because no one was hurt in that near disaster.

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2717 times:

I know that the US Airways A330-300s can't dump fuel either.


I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
User currently offlineMtnmanmakalu From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 515 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

A little late in the posting.... This happened yesterday (5th)- Original post made it sound like it was landing RIGHT NOW!!!!

Pulled the info up off of the crew system..... Times are:
Departed Sea- 1243 local
Arrived ANC- 1812 local
Departed ANC- 1920 local
Arrived NRT- 2101 local- Due into NRT @ 1635 local, so about 4 1/2 hours late....

FYI....



I do, I don't, whatever.......
User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Kindjordan - fueldumping don't take place during t/o, so it is not an issue. The aircraft is designed to reach a safe altitude on one engine if necessary.

An overweight landing is the option should they have to return early. The aircraft will have to go through some checks before it's placed back in traffic, but it's not unsafe to land. The pilots are trained on this.



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User currently offlineKindjordan From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2109 times:

LN-MOW...thanks for the response.....yeah i realize that you wouldnt dump fuel on takeoff....I guess my real question (which you answered) was could a fully loaded 330 climb out on one engine!!>

User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6496 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2061 times:

Jafa,
Not sure Air Transat had a fuel dumping system. The lost the fuel when they tried to transfer fuel with a faulty pump! Instead of transfering the fuel, it emptied all the fuel.


User currently offlinePetazulu From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

Bobnwa,

Hence, a fuel dumping system!  Smile
Maybe not a designed system, but a fuel dumpr none the less.


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

I guess my real question (which you answered) was could a fully loaded 330 climb out on one engine!!>

All twin engine planes certified by the FAA or JAA can take off at their maximum MTOW on one engine.

N


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6491 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

Gigneil:

Now I'll have to go try that with MSFS2004 and the 777-300.



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User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26620 posts, RR: 75
Reply 25, posted (9 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

>I guess my real question (which you answered) was could a fully loaded 330 climb out on one engine!!<

With something around 70,000 pounds of thrust per engine, I would sure hope it could.



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