Mike77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 4 Posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3882 times:
Now that Air New Zealand has been operating into SFO for almost 6 months, I was wondering if anyone knows how the loads are doing on the SFO-Auckland route. Thanks.
N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25566 posts, RR: 87 Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3701 times:
If SFO is performing better than expected, why not keep the 744 on the route?
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ZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 4802 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3368 times:
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I was under the impression that until there was enough aircraft ready that SFO would get the 744's first before LAX-LHR. LAX-LHR takes 3 aircraft to run a daily service so that would mean that only 2 maybe 3 services a week would get an upgraded aircraft until there was more than 1 aircraft reconfigured.
TG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 14 Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3285 times:
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ZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 6690 posts, RR: 12 Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3207 times:
Yes, so SFO is the first route with the 777 and the new peoduct (not including the familiarisation flights probably going trans tasman) when will SIN or HKG see these aircraft?
JoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3115 times:
I guess that SIN and HKG are the next destinations to follow for the 777. To both destinations NZ has big competition in the form of SQ and CX which have a superior product. NZ's other 763 routes to Japan, TPE and the Pacific are not that heavy rivalled.
ZKOJH From China, joined Sep 2004, 1171 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3044 times:
cant beleave that they been flying 6 months, god thats got to be a route to keep flying on maybe see double services in the near future!! keep the money comming in.. just waititng to see what there half year profit will look like in feb ?! and getting even more excited for the new product, cant wait nearly another 6 months tho!!
and as for terminal 2 at lax well ill be there in Jan, only my second time ive flown here, not looking towards it tho, can't we move the london route up and through SFO??!! be much nicer..
N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25566 posts, RR: 87 Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2956 times:
>Any news on how CHC-LAX is performing?<
I have heard it is also doing well and will go to a daily 777, much like AKL-SFO
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Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2941 times:
Any news on how CHC-LAX is performing?
My parents flew CHC-LAX two weeks after service was inaugurated. They said that the load was real light (tons of open seats). I'm sure that passenger traffic will climb as publicity of this route grows.
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NZblue From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 618 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2886 times:
Any news on how CHC-LAX is performing?
02-26-290 is the load tonight as of right now on NZ19 LAX-CHC, if anyone is interested.
Not totally full, but not amazingly empty, either.
We've been having a good run with the new CHC service! Like pilottim747 said, as word-of-mouth spreads about this service (and of the South Island of New Zealand itself as a destination), I'm sure we'll see this service become more popular when it is re-introduced as a 3x/weekly service in November 2005 (beginning in April 2005 and through the end of October 2005, this flight will only operate once-weekly on Sunday's from LAX).
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N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25566 posts, RR: 87 Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2882 times:
>Will the success of AKL-SFO encourage them to fly AKL-PPT-ORD or something like that?<
Probably not for 2 reasons. First, there is already a lot of capacity on the PPT-US routes, all throught LAX, with TN, AF, NZ all operating scheduled services. The biggest customers for those routes are cruise operators and high end package vacation sellers all can route through LAX with usually no more than 1 stop. Since NZ is a STAR member and partner with UA on most of their US domestic flights, they can just route ORD pax through LAX or SFO without having to dedicate equipment or staff to ORD
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RichardJF From New Zealand, joined Mar 2001, 792 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2830 times:
Personally I would of thought SYD-AKL-ACA-ORD would work really well for NZ.
Mexico City being at Altitude probably isn't realistic for a fully laden 744.
Such a route gives
1. A direct link between NZ/AUST and Mexico for businessmen.
Skycruiser From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 51 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2616 times:
If SFO-AKL will go 777, won't this flight be weight restricted? I remember flying AKL-LAX on a 777, and about 30 seats had to be left open.
How many seats are usually left open on the CO's EWR-HKG?
25 RichardJF: I think when United flew LAX-AKL with the 777 it was 180min ETOPS but NZ maybe 207mins ETOPS although I'm not entirely sure. They are looking to run L
26 RayChuang: If NZ flies the 777-200ER on the SFO-AKL route, it will be interesting to see if they can fly close to a full load on these flights. It will depend on
27 N1120a: >If NZ flies the 777-200ER on the SFO-AKL route, it will be interesting to see if they can fly close to a full load on these flights. It will depend o
28 Nz1: AKL-LAX-LHR is the first route to get the new cabins, with the B744 AKL-SFO is the first 'real' route to get the B777 with the new cabins TG992 is cor
29 Superfly: So I guess I should enjoy the NZ 744 at SFO while it last.
30 Gasman: Seeing as the first upgraded cabin is scheduled to come on line in 6 months, how come we can't book "premium economy" yet?
31 ZK-NBT: Have the CHC-LAX flights affected loads on AKL-LAX at all?
32 Nz1: No idea as to why you can't book prmium economy Gasman. I don't work in reservations. One guess would be that until enough upgraded aircraft are avail
33 Zonky: Ditto, from a set point, you can no longer book first. Presume a one-class food service in Biz/First, but priority seating for Frequent Fliers. (On ol
34 SunriseValley: Returning to the ETOPS issue; I cannot see it having any relevance since ANZ are currently flying 767 -300ER's over the same route ; admittedly non-s
35 JoFMO: Idon't think that SFO stole LAX a lot of traffic. NZ kept it's frequencies to north America unchanged. Befor introducing SFO they had 17 flights to LA
36 TG992: ZKOJH and as for terminal 2 at lax well ill be there in Jan, only my second time I've flown here, not looking towards it tho, can't we move the london
37 The777Man: Many thanks for the info on the first 777 routes! Hope to fly AKL-SYD or vv on the NZ 777 in Oct or Nov 2005. Nothing in the CRSs as of Friday even th
38 6thfreedom: What proportion of USA business do Australian residents provide Air NZ. Would also be interested to see how the 5pw same plane B744's between MEL and
39 ZK-NBT: I read that the LAX-LHR sector is very lucritive in an article in the NZ hearld a few weeks ago, and that was kind of stopping NZ from moving away fro
40 NZ747: number one a bit off topic... but.. What happend to the idea of the NZ 744's being named and having a New Zealand city decal?
41 ZK-NBT: Welcome to the forums NZ747. Hope you enjoy your time here. I guess the names and decals will be applied as the cabins are upgraded. 6thfreedom From B
42 ZKSUJ: NZ747, welcome. I heard that the names will be painted on very soon when the various aircraft go in for their checks. I remember reading that it will
43 777ER: Welcome NZ747, hope your stay is a long and enjoyable one What happend to the idea of the NZ 744's being named and having a New Zealand city decal? Th
44 Nz1: 777's will be used solely on AKL-SYD-AKL and AKL-SFO to start with. Further aircraft arrivals will see them deployed on CHC-LAX and into Asia, with ne
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