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Where Will Economy Class Be Located On The A380?  
User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 18381 times:

On the upper or lower deck, OR a combination of both, depending on the specific airline?

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User currently offlineMinmiester From Australia, joined May 2001, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 18297 times:

It will ultimately depend on the specific airline, but the seating configurations that have been rumoured/released (by AF and LH) show economy on the middle/main deck (there is a lower deck below this), with a 3-4-3 configuration for economy.

Cheers

Min


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 18274 times:

Everything I've read said the main deck (middle deck). F/J on the upper deck.

User currently offlineStudentFlyer From Australia, joined Sep 2004, 688 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 18103 times:

Some said that the forward section of the middle deck will be F, and the rest with Y, and on the upper deck, there will be J in the forward section, and the rest, again with Y.

But AFAIK, this is one possibility, but that's the only one i've seen to date. There may be others such that Minmiester and ANCFlyer said.

Regards,
AK


User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3750 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 18071 times:

I'm sure VS with their economy, premium economy and upper class suite will do something different.



User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 17933 times:

Eventually, ANA, JAL, and the airlines that use the bird for high density flights will have both decks as Y service, with a 3-4-3 configuration, with a capacity of over 800. Y'all just wait and see.  Smile
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User currently offlineRCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 17862 times:

Airbus was showing diagrams that said F and J on the upper deck with some Y rows, and in the main deck all Y.


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User currently offlineStargoldlhr From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 17839 times:

what will the launch routes be for the A380 ???


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User currently offlineVS045 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 192 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 17813 times:

VS A380s will be 64J 48W and 425Y with the bar on the main deck. W is on the upper deck, J is spread out across the forward section of both the upper and main deck, whil Y takes up the remaining space on the main and upper deck. See earlier topic by "Intheknow".

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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 17750 times:

Economy will be aft because that is where the most noise and turbulence are.

User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6764 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 17679 times:

My guess is that most of the economy seating will be on the main deck given that it would probably be difficult to evacuate an upper deck full of economy passengers given the height of the slides. I suspect that's also the reasoning behind Airbus' diagrams which place a lot of the premium seating on the upper deck. No airline will be flying any more passengers on the A380 than what the various aviation authorities certificate as its maximum capacity.

User currently offlineAirbusCanada From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17583 times:

For Qatar and most of the Emirates 380’s, the lower deck would be all economy. The upper deck would be a mix of First and Business class.
Some of the Emirates aircrafts would be configured to 650 seats,
Those birds will carry some economy seats in the upper deck.
Most of the airlines that are seating less than 550 passengers (SQ), the upper deck is usually an all First/Business class layout.


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 977 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 17561 times:

Eventually, ANA, JAL, and the airlines that use the bird for high density flights will have both decks as Y service, with a 3-4-3 configuration, with a capacity of over 800. Y'all just wait and see.

They can't. At EOS, Airbus is only planning on certifying the A388 at 600 passengers, with most customers planning on seating 480-520 seats. Airbus could up the capacity at a later date, but I doubt it would be any better for regional flying than a high-density 777-300A


User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 17529 times:

Stargoldlhr,

Launch routes for the A380 at Air France will be CDG-JFK & CDG-YUL.

Configuration planned :

9 First in th efront of main deck.
80 Business at the Upper deck.
451 Economy main deck + Upper deck (rear).


User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17138 times:

Are we still boarding from one jetway or will there be 2? Also, where is the jetway hooked up to, the top deck or the main deck??
Thanks,
SR



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User currently offlineTrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4769 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 17111 times:
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most plans I have heard of talk of using at least 1 jetway for each deck

User currently offlineNycfuturepilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 791 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 16712 times:

I never understood why First and Business classes are on the top. I find sitting upstairs to be more fun because its so unusual but It is a longer walk to get up there for the business travelers and they wont be the first ones off if they have to come down the stairs. However, if trex8 is right most plans I have heard of talk of using at least 1 jetway for each deck then this wont be true and putting the first and business pax upstairs will make total sense.


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User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16598 times:

>Eventually, ANA, JAL, and the airlines that use the bird for high density flights will have both decks as Y service, with a 3-4-3 configuration, with a capacity of over 800. Y'all just wait and see.<

Well, except that ANA just announced they will be all Boeing asap and JAL is all Boeing and always will be.



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User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 16498 times:

If there are 2 jetways, then there should be a premium cabin on the top and bottom. This will enable them both to pre-board at the same time! The First can go up-stairs and the Biz will be able to start boarding from the other gate going to the main deck. Then, when the Y cabin is boaarding, the people can board from both jetways simultaniously causing a faster board!
SR



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User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 16323 times:

will there be passenger elevators on board for people seated in the upper deck, but bound to wheel chairs?


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User currently offlineSpacecadet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3629 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 15907 times:

Well, except that ANA just announced they will be all Boeing asap and JAL is all Boeing and always will be.

Yeah, except for all those A300's they're flying around, many of which they have no intention of retiring any time soon from what I've read (a few will be/have been).

And ANA's not going to be all-Boeing until 2009, which leaves them quite a while to change strategy should something interesting come up.

Obviously if the A380 is only certified up to 600 passengers, then ANA and JAL really have no need for them whatsoever, given that their 747-400D's carry 568 or so. But they do have a need for an aircraft that can carry more passengers than that, so if Airbus releases a stretched A380 or just a higher-capacity version of the currently announced version, I have no doubt ANA and JAL would both have interest. That's assuming Boeing doesn't do something else with the 747.

ANA is supposedly going to be converting all of their 747 routes to 777's eventually, which I just don't believe is even possible in Japan, let alone practical. They're giving up almost 200 passengers per flight - they'd have to almost double the frequency to make up for it (actually probably more than that, considering they'd be burning more fuel to carry the same number of pax, not to mention maintaining more planes), which they literally can't at some of these airports in Japan. Obviously they can't talk about any plans Boeing may have for the 747 right now (though they'd obviously know what's up), and they have no interest in the current A380, but it seems to me they'd obviously have interest in a fuel-efficient super-jumbo airliner, whoever builds it. I mean the more I think about it, the more I think they're hiding something. And I understand Airbus does have plans eventually for larger versions of the A380.



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 42
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 15042 times:

They're giving up almost 200 passengers per flight

ANA 777-300A seats over 500.



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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17044 posts, RR: 66
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 15040 times:

As has been said, it will be up to the operator. However the Airbus sample layout (http://www.airbus.com/product/a380_cabin_layouts.asp) shows Monkey class on both decks. IMHO this makes a lot of sense since you want to keep premium pax closer to the exits (the jetway ones).


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User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2352 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4292 times:

It depends on how the airport sets up the jetways to the A380. If they have 2 jetways, 1 on the top deck and 1 on the bottom, they will most likely have the 1st and buisness class on the forward of the middle and top decks. Economy will probably be in the middle and rear of the top and middle decks where the most noise is. First and Buisness will be near the front so that the higher paying passengers will be the first ones on and first ones off.

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