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User currently offlineBimmer202 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 135 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7414 times:

Hello, I will be flying Allegiant air in early January from msn to Las Vegas. I know nothing about the airline. I was wondering how their track record is and any other info would be great. Thanks, bimmer


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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7330 times:
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They are a great airline, offering mainline to smaller cities at a very reasonable price. You may want to get something to eat before you fly with them as you can only expect a snack but I guess that's what u can expect with such great fares. They just got done installing new carpet and new leather seats, along with a new 33" seat pitch. As far as their track record i'm sure other people would have more info. Hope you have a great trip with them!

http://allegiantair.com/about.htm
http://allegiantair.com/pr/111004.htm



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User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7292 times:

Good timing! they just came into OKC and I know several people who booked on them today (for flights to Las Vegas). They offer the only non-stop RT from OKC to LAS and they were 80-100$ cheaper than all the others- I'm told.
I've never flown them, but my friends were curious about their service, so I'd also like to hear any thoughts.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7241 times:

Good airline with MD87s. Gordon Bethune may have to take over as CEO and get them going with some 739s!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineEta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2051 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7188 times:

They have a good operating plan, focusing on serving tourist-loving Las Vegas with point-to-point destinations no other carrier will touch. I think the only destination that was a problem was Baton Rouge- service never started (?) as the local casinos quite rightly objected to the local govt. handing subsidies to Allegiant that would take locals out of state.

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7174 times:
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The only market they currently have competiton on that i'm aware of is LAS-COS, AW (Mesa) flies that once daily with an RJ. They had some competition for a while to DSM when Mesa flew a Red Eye, but that didn't last long.


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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5831 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7151 times:
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I've flown Allegiant Air three times so far from ICT to LAS. All in all, they are very good airline. The MD-80's are clean, with a very friendly staff, and the nonstops sure beat connections. As far as ICT is concerned, their schedule is the best. The only problem I've encountered was a 3-hour delay, but it was a nonstop, we still getting into LAS at a reasonable time and I didn't have to worry about misconnecting and lost baggage.

I would highly recommend Allegiant with their low fares and vacation packages. If you experience a delay, don't fret too much. Afterall, you could be connecting somewhere.


User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 7100 times:

The only market they currently have competiton on that i'm aware of is LAS-COS

FAT-LAS is their most competitive route. Allegiant operates service that competes with an AWX RJ flight and 3 UAX Brasilia flights.

[Edited 2004-12-09 20:17:34]


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User currently offlineAtcrick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7012 times:

And for all you interested folks,

Allegiant to take delivery of their next two MD-83's on 12/16/04(N868GA) and then 01/15/05(N866GA).


Rick






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User currently offlineFATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5772 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 7009 times:

And I just posted the RDD cancellation on a new thread.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1855497/



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 7001 times:
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FAT-LAS is their most competitive route. Allegiant operates service that competes with an AWX RJ flight and 3 UAX Brasilia flights.

Thanks for correcting me on that. Forgot about UAX and the AWX RJ to FAT. What is your strongest city that you fly to (besides LAS)? I've been looking on your website and it seems common to see some BIS flights sold out Weeks in advance. Also I'm surprised FAR service hasn't been inaugurated yet.



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6986 times:
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Just cause I don't think it is, KCrwFlyer thinks it would be possible to do a CRW-LAS with a fuel stop on the way back to LAS and to pick up PAX in PIA. Could that be profitable having to pay landing fees in PIA and LAS and also using more fuel? Someone correct me if I'm wrong here but I'm curious as to your thoughts.

[Edited 2004-12-10 01:41:32]


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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3762 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6979 times:

well, it has nothing to do what iowa thinks. I just brought it up due to the closing of RDD. The stop in Pia is fuel and pax. Most say that if they were gonna start making fuel stops then they would fly to a larger market without direct service to LAS, or Direct service from a nearby airport. However, how many areas dont alrwady that are fairly large? CRW isnt fairly large but it strongly resembles MOST of the airports Allegiant flies to. Thats j ust my 2 cents. Its probably a dumb idea. oh well.

User currently offlineAtcrick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6957 times:

Kcrwflyer,

I have to admire your loyalty to your city. Would CRW-LAS work? I'm no expert but probably not. And the stop in PIA wouldnt help as PIA fills up their aircraft regularly without being a fuel stop for another city. I could be wrong but I just dont know that there is a big enough customer base in CRW.


Rgds,

Rick



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6913 times:

Ugghhh!  Crying

More MD-80s? No more!

I want to see something different at IFP! Come on Gordon take this airline over and kick some ASS and take some names!


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5831 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6909 times:
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I could see G4 opening up more ND and SD routes...perhaps FAR or RAP. I have no doubt that CRW would be viable...as compared to FSD and BIS, or even CID. But like others have been saying...unless G4 can do it nonstop, I don't think CRW is in the cards. But never say never. G4 could do strange things like open Sanford, FL or Lake Tahoe.

User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6907 times:
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What about the SY 738's at IFP NIKV69? Take a drive to LAX if you want to see all sorts of aircraft.


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User currently offlineAtcrick From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 770 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6888 times:

Wedgetail737,

Sanford? Very possible. Lake Tahoe? Never happen. Lake Tahoe (TVL) is a one way in and one way out airport at such an altitude that we would never be able to carry anybody out of there, especially in the Summer. Thats why there isnt more airline presence there already.

Rgds,


ATC Rick



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User currently offlineSprxUSA From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6881 times:

As for TVL, G4 has been there, done that already.


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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3762 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6888 times:

atcrick, i admire your professionality. Pia would be a bad connecting point. As far as folks going to LAS, ied say the base is there. You just gonna do a wee bit of advertisement. As independence figured out, the catchment area is rediculous for an airport with only about 40 or so flights. Before CMH got indy, we even cot some folks driving from that area., some still do due to indys extremely low prices here. If G4 can produce fair prices here, theyed prosper. I know for a fact that it just wont be folks goint to vegas now, those numbers will skyrocket because of the direct service. Also, our suburbs are loaded with folks that love to gamble. Ryan charters flights to ACY for gambling and folks fill those seats faster than a pirahna could tear apart a vienna sausage. Possibly a connection throught somewhere with bad loads would work? like OKC, its literally midway.

Widgetail, you hit it on the money. except for the fact that an eastern base wouldnt help us as the service to vegas wouldnt be considered (non stop) a fuel/pax stop still counts as non stop to me. I appreciate the feed back from both of you guys. And yes, im extremely loyal to crw and always will be.


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6868 times:
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could see G4 opening up more ND and SD routes...perhaps FAR or RAP.

Most definently, even LNK.

well, it has nothing to do what iowa thinks.

Whatever, your just pist off at me for some reason.



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User currently offlineAGrayson514 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 396 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6864 times:

I heard a rumor that they would move from LAN to GRR, however it seemed more like wishful thinking than a real possibility. It would be great to have Allegiant in GRR, however I seem to remember hearing about a NW nonstop service from LAS to GRR and FNT, never heard anything further on it. Anyone know anything about this?

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( wow, what a disorganized post....oh well  Smile/happy/getting dizzy )



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6837 times:
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I don't see LAS-GRR and FNT on the timetables anymore, I guess that was discontunued (surprisingly).


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6830 times:

Thanks Iowaman  Insane


That is some great advice, though I never set foot in California. Can't handle that state. I see and photograph plenty of SCY's 738s at IFP.


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In that first pic you can see one of those 80s! Ahhhhh  Angry

No more please!! Gordon to the rescue. He will place an order for 2 brand spanking new 739s and 2 new EMB 190s. From worst to first!!

Bethune 2008


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4312 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6824 times:
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Then take a trip to LAS, they have a great spotting location! Big grin I suppose you wanting IAH service? Would be nice. Hopefully someday.


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25 Post contains images Atcrick : I have heard mumblings about starting up GRR as well as staying in LAN. Something about GRR drawing from a different area for its customer base then L
26 Iowaman : Anyway, stay tuned for new announcements as I figure Florida is no longer an if, but when!! Hmmm.. makes me wonder what they could fly without competi
27 Copaair737 : Will G4 open up some Montana cities? I know HP already flies the LAS-BIL route w/ a CRJ, but would G4 open that route up w/ possibly LAS-MSO? Just won
28 Iowaman : Will G4 open up some Montana cities? I know HP already flies the LAS-BIL route w/ a CRJ, but would G4 open that route up w/ possibly LAS-MSO? Interest
29 Ouboy79 : If we could only get them here in TOL to replace TMA which is stopping their twice weekly 757.
30 JetMechMD80 : NIKV69, First off, Maury owns Allegiant, it is a private company. So he is not going to be replaced unless he decides to turn the company over to some
31 Post contains images NIKV69 : Iowaman, Hmmmm Let's see. My next trip to LAS will probably be my 20th. I go there a lot. Spotting is good but IFP is awesome. You can literally get r
32 Post contains images Avioniker : I sincerely hope that the good Mr Bethune never has anything to do with G4. They are one of only four airlines to maintain a profitable status consist
33 Meteorologist : My feeling is that getting Detroiters to go to TOL to fly to LAS would be hard...if not impossible. NW, HP, and Spirit all do DTW-LAS n/s. There is no
34 Atcrick : It is very interesting to hear peoples opinions on this board. Avioniker, Well said. You are absolutely right on the money with your post. The biggest
35 Post contains images NIKV69 : Does Maury have a book named "From worst to first?" NOoooooo. Bethune is quite a man. I know G4 does well I am just sick of seeing those 80s! Ahhhhh!
36 CO737800 : We are going on Allegiant Jan 6th from bellingham then on to monterrey on CO from Vegas, hope to have great service
37 Atcrick : NIKV69, Dont like the MD-80's? Well, get over it. Thats all you are going to see in Allegiant colors for some time to come. It's all about economics a
38 Post contains images Kcrwflyer : just for the books, i love the mad dog especially the 87. Atcrick, would you know when the next charter to CRW will be? Ied love to try and be at the
39 Atcrick : Kcrwflyer, I dont show any charters scheduled to come through CRW for the rest of the month. Remind me early in January and I will check again. We onl
40 Kcrwflyer : how long will you guys stay in okc? i hear loads are pitiful.
41 Post contains images NIKV69 : Atcrick, That is unfortunate. The MD80 is a good plane but I want some bigger birds! If G4 wants to stay small that's their deal. I think plans are in
42 Atcrick : Kcrwflyer, We'll have to see over the next couple of months how OKC does. It is getting into the slow flying season but we'll see. NIKV69, Hmmmmmm, le
43 Iowaman : Atc Rick, I've noticed that CID loads have possibly dropped off some, I hope that service doesn't come to an end.
44 NIKV69 : I don't think getting one bigger plane is going to bankrupt G4. If they use it on one their profitable routes to LAS in the west I think they would be
45 Kcrwflyer : NIKV69, i dont get it. I think if they wanted to directly compete with WN and B6, then maybe, just maybe, theyed fly the same routes. But they dont. I
46 Atcrick : kcrwflyer, It's okay. NIKV69 obviously is someone who likes to stir things up so he can get his jollys. What he said doesnt even make any sense. First
47 NIKV69 : Well that is fine, if G4 wants to stay a little airline with a few routes to LAS that they do well with that is cool. No silly argument here. If they
48 Kcrwflyer : If Allegiant did open up a more eastern hub, what would be the outcome? It seems as if it wouldnt fit into the business plan. And Ited be hard for the
49 NIKV69 : Well obviously G4 has no future plans to do anything but what they have been. Limited routes with their 80s in the west and charter service all over t
50 Post contains images Iowaman : I heard from somebody on here a while back that they could possibly be doing a few routes out of MCO in the near future? It would be awsome to see DSM
51 Uadc8contrail : nikv69, you would be surprised at the capital that mo has available to use.
52 FATFlyer : I think Maury probably has access to more capital than most people realize. But he has seen enough in the industry to be cautious. Iowaman, there is a
53 Atcrick : Well guys, I think Florida WILL happen next year. Now, I agree with Kcrwflyer on the market saturation on the east coast. I think what G4 will probabl
54 Kcrwflyer : i was just wondering how many pax a 87 would hold with a fow or 2 of seats taken out for more range. Another thing G4 has going for them is that they
55 Atcrick : Well Kcrwflyer, I guess if you took 2 rows out of one of our 87's you'd have approx 118 seats which wouldnt do us any good at all. Either they stay on
56 UAXEMB120 : Three Airports That Allegiant should expand to: STS MRY CHW
57 JetMechMD80 : "Does Maury have a book named "From worst to first?" NOoooooo. Bethune is quite a man." Well, from someone who sees him, and talks to him daily, I can
58 Iowaman : UAXEMB120, Some interesting suggestions. I would think runway length may be an issue at STS (5115x150) for full loads.
59 SegmentKing : Allegiant would be dumb to start service to Sanford... that's a longer drive to Disney than it is over to Bloomington to catch the AirTran daily 717 n
60 UAXEMB120 : for the "chw" i am not familliar on the code but i was meaning the code for Columbus Airport Ohio, (the other one, not the main international one)....
61 Atcrick : SegmentQueen, "Allegiant would be dumb to start service to Sanford..." I imagine you probably thought it was dumb when G4 started LAS-PIS(Pissoria). M
62 Post contains images NIKV69 : If Mo has so much capital how about using some of it? I mean how about some scheduled routes into IFP instead of just charters? They shouldn't have an
63 SegmentKing : Pissoria is a nice lil airport... I am not bashing the Las Vegas flight at all. Funjet Vacations has historically done well with their flights from Ce
64 Atcrick : Lets talk central Florida for a minute. People go to Orlando for alot more reasons than going to Disney World. Also, I know a whole bunch of people th
65 JetMechMD80 : "If Mo has so much capital how about using some of it? I mean how about some scheduled routes into IFP instead of just charters? They shouldn't have a
66 SprxUSA : I think Rochester,MN (RST) would also be a good G4 destination. Give the MDs at The Mayo Clinic nonstop service to gamble their earnings. Maybe a LAS
67 Iowaman : Just do me one favor and list ONE U.S. Domestic airline that has been successful at Sanford. Maybe Transmeridan? I think Rochester,MN (RST) would also
68 Uadc8contrail : nikv69, if you look at my previous posts....im a big AA.. i mean UA FAN....BUT if you look how allegiant has grown...i have been impressed..except for
69 Wedgetail737 : NIKV69...a little off the subject. I know you're a big fan of the MD-80's (ha!), but have you seen any of the supposed Ryan MD-80's. There was an ad a
70 Post contains images NIKV69 : JetMechMD80, Actually the drive from IFP-LAS is like 50 mins now with the improvements on the highway. Laughlin is booming and flying into IFP wouldn'
71 Kcrwflyer : i really have to ask. Does allegiant go seeking out airports to fly to, or do they constantly ge tbids and bribes from airports to fly there? I dont s
72 BH346 : There's a MD-80 that's been sitting out on the ramp at ICT all last week undergoing maintenence. I heard it's Ryan International's, so that could very
73 Post contains links and images FATFlyer : Kcrwflyer, I don't know how true this is, but a few years ago I was told that Allegiant was using the annual visitor study done by the Las Vegas Visit
74 Kcrwflyer : hmm, a survey. interesting. Soo, do they surey every single person that enters the city? what if on a few days its cheaper to fly to ONT or LAX and if
75 FATFlyer : Of course you could not get every visitor just like you can't survey every TV watcher every day to decide what is the most watched show last night. Bu
76 Post contains links Kcrwflyer : i still dont think allegiant bases were if flys upon current numbers. If this was the case they wouldnt fly certain places. http://ostpxweb.dot.gov/av
77 Post contains images NIKV69 : FATFlyer, Thanks but I know they fly to California. Thing is I have no desire to set foot in that state! The people are a little weird. I will definat
78 JetMechMD80 : I don't think you guys understand the philosophy of Allegiant. It is to be a good airline which makes a profit. It is not to be the biggest, its not t
79 Post contains images Iowaman : JetMechMD80, That is exactly right. No need for Airbus when the Mad Dogs are much cheaper and just got new seats & carpet. I think you guys are define
80 Atcrick : Good evening all, Who would of thought it? A small airline like G4 and still this thread has 80 responses! Tomorrow night(12/13) is the G4 Christmas P
81 Post contains images Kcrwflyer : yeah the airbus thing was dumb. I would say swap them with 733's but that'd be too much money too right?. Rick, i dont know why but allegiant is just
82 Post contains images NIKV69 : Well this thread has so many responses because G4 flies into IFP!!! IFP is expanding. Laughlin is booming. What else is there. LAS is good as well. Th
83 Targowski : i've flown them once FAT-LAS and it was good in terms of service and price. however, AW has moved in and i have been booked twice on them for trips to
84 D950 : If G4 is going to upgrade, they should take the lead of Hello, and grab every MD90 out of the desert. The fuel burn is phenominal(ask Hello) and the M
85 Kcrwflyer : md 90's, interesting. What kind of range and payload does the md 90 have compared to the 83? back to my main question. If allegiant did have a eastern
86 BENNETT123 : How long is the IPF runway. Unless the airport has the runway and other facilities, larger aircraft are not possible. Given that many MD80 have relat
87 Kcrwflyer : Runway 16/34 Dimensions: 7520 x 150 ft. / 2292 x 46 m Surface: asphalt, in good condition Weight limitations: Single wheel: 75000 lbs Double wheel: 20
88 Iowaman : nothing wrong with that runway. It might be weight restricted in the summer for long flights.
89 Kcrwflyer : truithfully,if it gets hot enough, every flight would be weight restricted. ( i think). Even aircraft as small as saabs.
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