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User currently offlineJetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 845 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4366 times:

I was scanning through some timetables from the early '80s and I am surprised to see that Eastern Airlines used to run L-1011's up from ATL to BUF with continuing service to YYZ. They also used to have service from MIA to PHL with continuing service to SYR with an L-1011. They also announced service very late in their existence to DFW - 1990 to be exact.

What other cities did EA serve with widebodies that would be unimaginable these days in the regional jet era. I also remember 757s between PVD and ISP then down to ATL and FLL, although of course not widebody - still, 757s to ISP is a fairly rare occurence.

I look forward to the responses.

DAN

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User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4338 times:

You have to remember that even as late as the early 1980's, wide-body service like this wasn't all that unrealistic. There used to be B-747 flights from MIA-NYC all the time.

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User currently offlineN707PA From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4302 times:

EA had a "focus city" at STL (with widebody service) in the late '70s.

User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5162 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4263 times:

They also use to run A300s with the occasional L10 through IAH when they had there focus city here.


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User currently offlinePiedmontCowboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4252 times:

Back in 1980:
EA #597 RIC to ATL - A300 Whisperliner
EA #616 ATL to RIC - A300 Whisperliner Ex Tuesday, L-1011 Tuesday

Mid to Late 80's:
EA #563 RIC to ATL - 757
EA #586(?) ATL to RIC - 757

I flew on EA 597/616 several times, and the flights were fairly full. Only a few empty seats were noted.




User currently offlineJetCaptain From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 236 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4248 times:

Also used the A300 and for awhile the L1011 on the MIA-BWI-YOW route. Eastern flights 172/173.

JC

[Edited 2004-12-09 15:02:16]

User currently offlineSspontak From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4208 times:

I remember flying in Nov-1982 the following 2 EA widebody routes: It was during the Thanksgiving holiday and the flights were full.
MCO - MIA L-1011
MIA - Nassau A-300




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User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1599 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4190 times:

In the mid to late 80s we heavily promoted that all nonstop flights from EWR, JFK and LGA to MIA, PBI, FLL and MCO were widebodies and to TPA were 757s. Generally, though, it seems that Delta usually operated one size up from Eastern on competing routes (DL 757s against EA 727s, DL 767s against EA 757s, etc.)

User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2173 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4179 times:

Did EA offer service to Europe? I seem to vaguely remember seeing a commercial about it. Of course, I grew up out west, and didn't see that many EA commercials, (in fact never saw an EA aircraft in person).

Travis


User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1599 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4167 times:

Did EA offer service to Europe?

Nonstops from MIA to LGW with DC-10-30s for a few years in the 80s. MIA to MAD was about to start when the Lockerbie bombing killed any further expansion to Europe.


User currently offlineNWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4030 times:

They also did ATL-LAX-SFO on the L1011. That was my 1st time in one.


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User currently offlinePresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 660 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4017 times:

I flew RSW-LGA on an A300 in the late 1980s, but cannot say the exact year with certainty.

User currently offline717-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 601 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3994 times:

I can remember in the late 80's living downwind from GSP seeing EA
run 757's on the short 140 mi hop to ATL a couple of times a day.



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User currently offlineJuanr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3972 times:

Did they ever fly to CDG?

Juan
SKBO


User currently offlineChrisjake From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 865 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3927 times:


i know that EA had a 747 for a short time. does anyone know what route that flew for them?

20-30 yrs ago alot of airlines flew widebodies between cities you would not think of, not just Eastern. AA also flew widebodies into BUF. a daily DC10 did ORD-BUF

chris



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User currently offlineGr8SlvrFlt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1599 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

The Eastern 747 flew between JFK, MIA, ORD and SJU in 1971 and 1972.

User currently offlineBluemeatball From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3826 times:

I flew on an EA L-1011 between RDU and ATL from the old Terminal (B) in November of 1978.

User currently offlineSwardu From United States of America, joined May 2004, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3732 times:

Eastern used to have L1011 service from ATLJAX. They also ran A300 and occasional L1011 service ATLDENSLC and vv as well as A300 svc ATLPHXTUS--if memory serves me right they had AM and PM service on the PHX runs(used to work those trips as I was an EAL emp in PHX).

User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3689 times:

Eastern actually leased a 747 in 1979 when Pan Am bought National and it appeared that the British authorities were going to force the new PA to give up the MIA-LHR route flown by National. When the British Government decided that they would enforce Bermuda II strictly (National flew MIA-LHR before Bermuda II thus grandfathered in) and forced the recepient of the route to fly MIA-LGW. Eastern was not interested in LGW flights so Air Florida obtained the route and flew it until they went under. Then ironically enough EA obtained the route and flew it with an L-1011. The 747 leased in 1979 was returned soon after EA failed to get Heathrow service.

Pan Am/National always seemed to be at a competetive disadvantage vis a vis Eastern @ MIA. It was strongly hinted at the time (And I have heard it since) that Pan Am was adamant that the London route did not go to Eastern.


User currently offlineCs03 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3675 times:
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EA flew a L1011 from BDL to MIA in the late 1970s, as my family and I went to CZM, via MIA. I remember a 747 in BDL in the terminal at the time! Off topic, but TWA had a quick service from ALB to STL in a 707! It must have been early 1980s, but I do remember seeing it at KALB!

User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

"In the mid to late 80s we heavily promoted that all nonstop flights from EWR, JFK and LGA to MIA, PBI, FLL and MCO were widebodies and to TPA were 757s. Generally, though, it seems that Delta usually operated one size up from Eastern on competing routes (DL 757s against EA 727s, DL 767s against EA 757s, etc.)"


It's amazing how much has changed- in the 1980s if you flew from SoFla to NYC you generally either flew EA or DL. The two offered service from FLL and PBI to all three NYC airports (and EA from FLL to ISP as well) and there was very little competition on the route from other carriers, but intense competition between EA and DL, both offering widebodies and heavy frequency on the routes. TWA flew the routes as well but never fared that well. At one time they offered service from MIA to all three NYC airports but dropped EWR and eventually LGA. TWA did fly FLL-LGA and PBI-LGA for a long time. Pan Am flew FLL-JFK in the late 80s and early 90s, but I cannot remember what they did with National's routes from FLL and PBI to NYC in the early 80s.


User currently offlineSeptember11 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3623 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3625 times:

I flew on EA A300 on this route several times:

ATL-SEA-PDX
PDX-SEA-ATL


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User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3607 times:

Someone at work told me they used to run the L1011's on the TUS-ATL nonstop.

User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3597 times:

"They also announced service very late in their existence to DFW - 1990 to be exact."

Actually EA flew to DFW until the Summer of 1988 when EA pulled back from most routes west of the Mississippi. The service was resumed in 1990 with 4 or 5 dailies to ATL.



User currently offlineZippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3593 times:

"Also used the A300 and for awhile the L1011 on the MIA-BWI-YOW route. Eastern flights 172/173."

Those were the days! Thanks to Eastern, sleepy BWI (back in the day) joined the big boys with L1011 and later A300 service to and from MIA. You flew down in the morning on EA 173. When it was time to come back home, you headed down old concourse C at MIA for flight 172 back home. These two flights originated and terminated at YOW. Now, the wide body service was mainly during the busy seasons; Xmas through Passover/Easter. Otherwise, it was you basic 727. Eastern's other Miami service from BWI utilized a 727 during the busy times and DC 9 when demand was lighter. These were the days when thankfully Eastern had a decent BWI presence. Far from hub or even showcase status. Eastern still served our airport well. In addition, Eastern had an L1011 flight nonstop to Bermuda! I believe this flight was 809 or something like that. This was during the mid and late 70's. I even remember seeing that graceful L1011 Eastern hockey stick and all make its descent into BWI and this was from the parking lot of Security Square Mall. Back in the day, Security Mall was nice and not yet crime ridden. And, back in June of 1980 while waiting to board my BWI bound flight 172 on an older white 727 background, I strolled over to the then modern B concourse at MIA and watched an EAL L1011 push back for its late Friday afternoon non stopper to SYR. I felt cheated; SYR gets the L1011 and we got the old 727. But, I still enjoyed the flight experience.
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25 Kkfla737 : EA ran BWI-YOW, BWI-BDA, and BWI-SJU at various times in the 80s. While Baltimore wasn't one of EA's busiest stations it certainly was important in th
26 AlekToronto : I still remember flying the L1011 from YYZ to BUF and on the ATL..those were the days...An L1011 from Toronto to Buffalo (a whole 20 mins flight)!! To
27 BGIplanefreak : In the early 1980s flew Eastern Barbados-Miami-Barbados with A300 and L1011. They had really great service, sure miss them.
28 Post contains images Crosswind : Kfla737, Eastern's MIA-LGW route was flown with a pair of DC-10-30s obtained for long-haul expansion. The L1011-1 didn't have the range for Trans-Atla
29 Go3Team : Sometime in '84 I flew the L10 from ATL -> SLC -> ATL with a stop in DEN (Old) both ways.
30 Sspontak : Where did EA obtain the DC-10's from?
31 Kkfla737 : Thanks- I stand corrected- the DC10 flew MIA-LGW on EA.
32 Type-rated : Eastern also flew the L-1011: ORD-ATL-MIA ORD-MIA-SJU back in the 70's. Back then DL and EA were the big airlines if you wanted to go to Florida from
33 FCKC : Juanr No they never flew to CDG.They never considered a service to Paris. Anyway if they did , they should had landed at ORY , not CDG. Sspontak N390E
34 Kkfla737 : "back in the 70's. Back then DL and EA were the big airlines if you wanted to go to Florida from the upper midwest." In fact that was the case in thro
35 Swardu : Eastern picked up all the DC10-30's from Alitalia if memory serves me right.
36 Newkai : "I strolled over to the then modern B concourse at MIA and watched an EAL L1011 push back for its late Friday afternoon non stopper to SYR." I wish I
37 Miamiair : It's not a wide body, but for the airport it served it was: B-727 service MIA-EYW. That must have been a hoot. Almost like watching arrivals at SXM...
38 Type-rated : Kkfla737: I had forgotten about NW. I remember their advertising depicting a map of the United States upside down and a line going from ORD-Florida an
39 Kkfla737 : I'm actually going to start a topic on NW and ORD probably today or tomorrow. I was looking at a pre-Republic merger timetable and I had forgotten the
40 Pbiflyguy : "I had forgotten about NW. I remember their advertising depicting a map of the United States upside down and a line going from ORD-Florida and the hea
41 Type-rated : I remember when NW used to share that last concourse at ORD with EA and CO. They had a wide variety of equipment at the time. Where else could you hav
42 Jsnww81 : Type-rated: You're thinking of Concourse D, which was demolished in the late 1980s to make way for United's Terminal 1. For most of the 1960s and 1970
43 Oldman55 : I think Eastern ran some of their BOS-LGA shuttles with A-300's inthe mid 80"s
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