ACB777 From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 350 posts, RR: 2 Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4268 times:
What routes does/did AC fly with widebodies? When exactly were these routes flown? Was there enough demand for all that capacity? It seems like in the 80's planes as big as the L1011 were flown to LAX.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4227 times:
The Toronto-Los Angeles route was flown with the 747, 747 Combi, L1011 and 767 at various times over the years. Larger airliners could be used since there was less competition on the route, there was less frequency on the route, and there was less choice - ie, there was far less transborder service back then. Thus, AC used larger aircraft - also remember that back in the 70s and 80s, airlines in general utilized widebodies much more on short and medium range routes before airlines (especially those in North America) became far more focused on frequency and hubs and connections.
AC widebodies have also been used on routes into MIA from both Montreal and Toronto (even DL flew an L1011 on the Montreal-Miami route for a few years), and I think that larger aircraft were also used at certain times during the year on flights into Tampa. I also think that CP (now part of AC) flew DC10s on the Vancouver-LAX route for a short period of time many years ago.
Lymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4180 times:
Occasionally when cancellations occur due to ATC and/or weather, a few narrow body flights will be consolodated into one larger aircraft. Recently, YYZ-LGA and YYZ-BOS saw 767 service.
Also, Ontario spring break usually sees an increase in widebody flights to Florida. MCO has been served by the A330 on a few occasions during the March break. In the past, even 747s were seen often during the winter months.
Virtually every AC jet type has been used to Florida with some regularity, from the short lives YYZ-JAX RJ flights to L1011s to MIA. Other old time offenders were the 727 and DC-9. Sadly, it is primarily the A32X narrow bodies that dominate today, with the occasional spittle of 767s.
Overall, judging from the photo database, it appears the least frequent AC widebody visitor to the continental USA has been the A340 and A330. A few shots of the 340 at Miami in 2000 and a single shot of the 330 is all I can find.
AlekToronto From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3938 times:
it is amazing how times have changed..I have been travelling to the states for a long time on AC (mostly LAX and MIA) and have flown everything AC has (and had) on those routes.
LAX used to get regular 747-200 Combis and L1011s. Until recently they also has 1-2 767s daily. Lately it has been all 320/319 (and a few 321).
In the last 10 years to MIA i have flown on 747 (100, 200 and 400),767,340,320,321,319, 737 and RJ's. Until their retirement AC used the 747-200 to MIA in the winter on a regular basis (mostly on weekends).
Miss the good old days.
Also there were a few years where 1 of the daily YYZLGA flights was operated by 767 and I was on that flight more than once.
United_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7383 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3626 times:
Here's a current one:
Airline Air Canada
Flight Number 916
Departure City (Airport) Toronto, ON, Canada (YYZ)
Departure Time 12/10/2004 11:37 AM
Arrival City (Airport) Miami, FL (MIA)
Arrival Time 12/10/2004 02:37 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type Boeing 767-200
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Arrived
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Adrianw From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2666 times:
Last August after I arrived in ORD from Osaka on a United 772 and the connecting flight to IAD (my final destination) from ORD was on an 767 2 or 3 dont know looked older though but I was surprised with the use of the widebody for such a short distance, but on the other hand the plane was almost complety full.