ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 12 Posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8591 times:
From Newark, beginning Spring/Summer 2005:
Lagos, Nigeria (TBD....most likely a B767-200)
Additional frequencies to Amsterdam (B767-400, B767-200) instead of one daily B777.
Seasonal double-daily to FCO (B767-400, B767-200)
Double daily to Tel Aviv? (B777)
Double daily to Birmingham, UK (B757)
Double daily to Paris, CDG (B777, B767-200)
Double daily to London/Gatwick (year round) (B777, B767-400)
Additional weekly frequencies to Glasgow, Scotland
Daily nonstops to:
Hong Kong (five weekly)
Frankfurt (going to a 777 from a 767-400)
Impressive! The New York area never had an airline with that many nonstop flights to so many international routes. And this list does not include all the flights to the Caribbean, Canada, and Central/South American destinations.
Sabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8436 times:
Thanks for the list! A very impressive network with a lot of new destinations.
Since I will move to Hamburg very soon, I will try to get a seat on the first flight from HAM to EWR on June 10th, that would be the first time for me that I fly on CO, the first time for me in a narrowbody over the Atlantic, and I would be for the first time in my life on an inaugural-flight. Let's hope that I will find a cheap fare.
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7697 times:
From an operational perspective, i think its great that Continental can use the B757's for such long routes to link "smaller" cities to the USA. Of course, from a spotter's perspective, we all want to see the 777's and the likes, but that isn't a factor.
RyanAFAMSP From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 6375 times:
I think we need to qualify the statement about New York never having had an airline with so many non-stops to so many places.
Can anyonee make a comparison to Pan Am's schedules at its apex - with non-stops that would probably mean the late 1980s - but the late 1970s for total desitnations served. I am thinking they would beat CO hands down. Plus they flew a ton of seats because of the 747-100's massive capacity.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17095 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6256 times:
" I am thinking they would beat CO hands down."
Nope, you have to take into account CO's frequencies to Canada, Mexico and the Carribbean. And while Pan Am did fly to lots of European destinations, many were not on a daily basis even during the peak Summer months save the top destinations (Italy, England, France etc..).
RyanAFAMSP From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5834 times:
Good call STT757
I was thinking that after I wrote it. The FRA, TXL, and LHR hubs for PA and the CDG and LHR hubs for TW reduced the number of outbounds across the pond for Pan Am.
I guess I was just sort of thinking about the period where Pan Am had the A310s in trans atlantic service and upped non-stop frequencies. I was thinking they also did some Carribbean service out of JFK in addition to the MIA operation.
I would be interested in the overall capacity as well. I think PAs 741s held over 400, which is more than two CO 757s. It would be interesting to look at the overall uplift.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 5053 times:
What are the chances of seeing CO to possibly serve ATH or CAI?
CO would be interested in an EWR-ATH run, but I am rather sure that governmental authorities would be needed - Greece and US do not have open skies and DL has the NYC-Athens route. CO was studying the possibilities long ago, back when DC10-30s were the primary aircraft accross the Atlantic and I have not heard much about Athens since....it would be an ideal route for a 762. Concerning CAI, I have honestly heard nothing but when TLV was announced it was a total surprise and the EWR-TLV has gone on to a hugely successful and profitable route for for CO (its the only transatlantic route out of EWR with two daily 777s during the summer season). While TW had some success with its operations in and out of Cairo, DL's attempts did not go very well although DL's timing ended up being all wrong - my guess is that CO will not send its own aircraft to Cairo in the near future and serve that city in cooperation with its SkyTeam partners KL and AF for a variety of reasons.
Hopefully, CO will do the EWR-ANC run again . . . I didn't see it above. I know ANC isn't 'international' but . . . . might as well be.
The EWR-ANC nonstop operated only during the Summer season - for one or maybe two summers - and the flight did not opearate during Summer 2004. I dont think it will return for a couple reasons: first, the CO's 757s are now going to be doing a lot of transatlantic work; second, the flight (for some reason) was always seemed to be a scheduling and operational problem - maybe because the aircraft used tended to do Florida runs inbetween the flights to ANC; and, third, the yeilds were so-so, a good percentage of the pax on the flight were cruise passengers flying on air/sea packages travelling under bulk fares negotiated by the cruise lines.
: I am surprised to see CO jumping on the SVO market rather than the PRG market. PRG is an up and coming city with tons of history and a booming ecomony
: There is much more business traffic going to Moscow than to Prague FlyIbaby, and further, CO would operate the EWR-Moscow route to Domedodovo Airport
: "Doesn't OK still fly EWR-PRG in addition to JFK-PRG" Yup, A310s.
: Great post Dutchjet.... I just wanted to add that TW's success in CAI had a great deal to do with the fact that the flight continued on to Riyadh, and
: A CO EWR-ATH would be an awesome route. I thought that back in the day a few months back I read that CO was adding another LIS flight using a 767-200
: EWR-IST might work well too. Right now, it's just Turkish Airlines and Delta.
: I could see IST working as well. I have been to IST. During the summer IST flights are brimming and overselling. If CO launches IST, during the winter
: EWR-BOM/DEL via some EU/UK city will also work very well
: EWR-OTP (Bucharest) is the route that CO needs to start! Tarom droped their direct JFK route last year at the bequest of Airfrance and a rumored futur
: The CO service EWR to Oslo, Norway will be daily during summer periodes, and 3-4 times a week during winter periodes. From what I hear they are doing
: Hopefully, CO will do the EWR-ANC run again . . . I didn't see it above. I know ANC isn't 'international' but . . . . might as well be. It's a shame t
: 7LBAC111: "CO operate a daily service via SEA (CO1781) " Yup, I know, but you still have that infernal stop in SEA. At least it's a 757. It was dandy
: I've seen COs 73W (is that the appropriate deignator for a winglet equipped 738?)" '73W' is already used by CO for some other 737 subfleet. The Wingl
: How comfortable could a 757 be going across the atlantic??
: How comfortable could a 757 be going across the atlantic?? Ugh, this question always comes up, and the answer is always the same: if you're in economy
: Are there any 757 interior photos?(I refer to the 757 used to Europe) Thanks
: I have a couple of questions dealing with using a 757 for some of these flights. -Are any of these flights weight restricted? -EWR-BER (3985nm) -EWR-H
: Regarding service to CAI, it is clear with TW and later DL's service, CAI cannot sustain nonstop service on a standalone basis from the U.S. MS serves