Ktachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1732 posts, RR: 2 Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7730 times:
Who operates the most routes with a B767 long-haul? I know that AA has/had? some service a few years ago from JFK-GRU on a 767's. (or am I wrong?) But extensively on its trans-pac routes, AC has the largest number of flights. YVR-NRT, YVR-KIX, YVR-PVG, YVR-PEK, YYZ-NRT (all of them seasonally A340). So which airline is it that flies them for the long haul? I don't know what the figures are like for EC carriers. A few years ago, I remember Alitalia had an NRT-MSP flight on a B767. Personally, I think pax would enjoy that 2-3-2 seating opposed to a B747 3-4-3.
Does anybody know which airlines fly them on which routes?
I know the shortest route (I think before you start bashing me again) is the ANA ITM-Matsuyama. I think the distance is, 180 miles or so. But what is the longest route on a 767?
Ktachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1732 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7519 times:
Concordeboy and Ual747
Thanx for emphasizing who is the biggest operator. But do you know specifically which routes they fly long-haul? I read in a thread when they got their 767-400 that they used it between Tokyo-via Saipan to the United States. But in terms of direct, do you know whats the longest?
I heard a European carrier used to do straight to LAS. I wonder if that was the longest. I know OZ before the 777's used to do ICN-SEA with a 767-300ER which is quite long. But again Air China and Air Canada's YVR-PEK routes are long and also Air Canada's YVR-PVG route....
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7493 times:
But do you know specifically which routes they fly long-haul?
Yes, plenty.... of which I will not bother listing.
I read in a thread when they got their 767-400 that they used it between Tokyo-via Saipan to the United States.
That's CO cher, not DL.
But in terms of direct, do you know whats the longest?
Pretty sure JFK-CDG-BOM is DL's longest direct 767 flight.... I haven't looked out for any possible California-Europe add-ons of the same flight/aircraft.
FCO-ATL, for DL anyways.
I heard a European carrier used to do straight to LAS. I wonder if that was the longest.
As for Euro-carriers... I believe the longest scheduled 767 service for a good while, was AZ's flight to SFO using a 763ER. Don't quote me on that.
Ual747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7479 times:
"Thanx for emphasizing who is the biggest operator. But do you know specifically which routes they fly long-haul? I read in a thread when they got their 767-400 that they used it between Tokyo-via Saipan to the United States. But in terms of direct, do you know whats the longest?"
- Delta never operated any of the 767 variants transpacific. Delta DID operate FRA-BOM with the 763 (I think, or perhaps it was DEL)
SESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3385 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7408 times:
Usagypsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 60 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7372 times:
TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3053 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7170 times:
ConcordeBoy - I do not know where you got your info, but there is not a single transpacific 767 of Delta, and i believe only a couple in general, those being Air Canada. And once again your wrong with DL FRA-DEL, youre right DEL, but it is currently CDG, not FRA.
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DColeMAN From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 274 posts, RR: 11 Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6891 times:
I heard a European carrier used to do straight to LAS. I wonder if that was the longest.
Britannia fly a 763 weekly from BOH-SNN (fuel stop)-LAS, which is almost on the limit for a 767-300/ER. The maximum performance on the 'ER version is 5800nm when fueled up to the brim so LHR-LAS (LHR for example) is a 5200nm leg, so that's pushing it quite abit...
Bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6032 posts, RR: 9 Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6848 times:
Alitalia had a NRT-MSP flight on a 767? Need more info on that flight?
Pdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 999 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6709 times:
Hey SESGDL,
You forgot to include DL's new ATL-EZE service!!
DL has expanded its non-stop South America service out of ATL
777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3055 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6539 times:
They fly the 763ER to SVO. Do they fly that over the Pacific or through Europe? I thought it was trans-Pacific, somebody help me out here...
Airliner777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 493 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6420 times:
LAN has 18 767s, all used in long hauls:
Delta Airlines has 123 Boeing 767s with 38 more in order. hehehe
AC's 762's and AC763's also serve most transatlantic and high capacity domestic operations.
According to air canada.ca there are Currently 14 762's and 33 763's in operation. But I think there are 42 B767 currently in Air Canada's fleet.
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25 N867bx: If Alitalia ever flew NRT-MSP I will eat ConcordeBoy's drawer's
26 Panamair: According to DL's schedules, their three longest 763ER nonstop routes (by miles) are: ATL-FCO - 5035 miles JFK-IST - 5011 miles ATL-EZE - 4998 miles T
27 Tan flyr: Prior to LHR being all 777 service (on AA), I do recall AA flying LAX-LHR with a 767-223ER.
28 OB1783P: I agree with Ktachiya that the seating pattern of the 767 should make it very comfortable for long haul. However, it has been my experience that the 7
29 Warszawa: Couple more very long 767 routes: SFO-EGLL ( United ) LAX - UUEE ( Aeroflot ) = 6079 Miles
30 3201: One former Europe to LAS 763 op was Citybird BRU-LAS-OAK-BRU (which I flew BRU-LAS-OAK on 25 Aug 98, OO-CTQ). They did that routing once a week and BR
31 Gilesdavies: Back in the late 80's and early 90's Briannia Airways operated their 767's from the UK to Australia. That has gotta be one of the longest routes.
32 Nycfuturepilot: the 767 is not often used on "flagship" routes, or whatever the routes are called on which a carrier is trying to show itself at its very best. Though
33 Arcano: Airliner777: Delta Airlines has 123 Boeing 767s with 38 more in order. hehehe It's not a contest, nor a comparison. LAN is still one on of the largest
34 Ktachiya: N867bx NRT-MSP was really a 767-300 for Alitalia before they got their T7's into the market. Yes, that's quite a distance considering that all other E
35 ConcordeBoy: NRT-MSP was really a 767-300 for Alitalia before they got their T7's into the market. ...dude, what they've been trying to tell you is that AZ flew N
36 N867bx: MSP=Minneapolis/St Paul (where those red tails often go) MXP=Milan Glad we could clear that up, did not want to eat anyones drawer's today.
37 Ktachiya: Sorry about that. How many miles is that btw? I asked if anyone knew the address to the site that could calculate the distances but can you guys give
38 Ktachiya: Wow.... I actually find out that its 6147 miles now. So is YYZ-NRT the furthest route for the time being then? So YYZ-NRT would leave about 1000 kilom
39 ConcordeBoy: I asked if anyone knew the address to the site that could calculate the distances but can you guys give me the url? http://gc.kls2.com
40 MaverickM11: "ConcordeBoy - I do not know where you got your info, but there is not a single transpacific 767 of Delta," Hawaii.
41 Airliner777: Arcano: It's not a contest, nor a comparison. LAN is still one on of the largest consumers of the 767 (11th I think), and the 100% of them are used in
42 Carpethead: It still amazes me that AC does YYZ-NRT on 763. Probably close to zilch in the cargo hold on the westbound leg. AZ did NRT-FCO on a 763, which is even
43 ConcordeBoy: About the only exception is DL currently because it has very few aircraft bigger than 763 on int'l routes. Um, the 772ER is the flagship of DL's fleet
45 Bananaboy: Britannia fly a 763 weekly from BOH-SNN (fuel stop)-LAS, which is almost on the limit for a 767-300/ER. The maximum performance on the 'ER version is