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Who Is The Largest Operators Of 767's Long Haul?  
User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9737 times:

Who operates the most routes with a B767 long-haul? I know that AA has/had? some service a few years ago from JFK-GRU on a 767's. (or am I wrong?) But extensively on its trans-pac routes, AC has the largest number of flights. YVR-NRT, YVR-KIX, YVR-PVG, YVR-PEK, YYZ-NRT (all of them seasonally A340). So which airline is it that flies them for the long haul? I don't know what the figures are like for EC carriers. A few years ago, I remember Alitalia had an NRT-MSP flight on a B767. Personally, I think pax would enjoy that 2-3-2 seating opposed to a B747 3-4-3.

Does anybody know which airlines fly them on which routes?

I know the shortest route (I think before you start bashing me again) is the ANA ITM-Matsuyama. I think the distance is, 180 miles or so. But what is the longest route on a 767?


Flown on: DC-10-30, B747-200B, B747-300, B747-300SR, B747-400, B747-400D, B767-300, B777-200, B777-200ER, B777-300
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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9681 times:

DL is the largest of all 767 operators, and I believe (though don't quote me) the largest 763ER operator as well.... so probably them.

User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2956 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9668 times:

DL is the largest operator of 767s. Followed by American Airlines.
NH, JL, AC, QF, 5X, ABX & UA are also large operators as well.


User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9669 times:

Delta has the largest fleet of 767's and the most longhaul 767 routes. BTW, are they ever going to get anymore 772's?

UAL747


User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2407 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9615 times:

LAN has 18 767s, all used in long hauls:

SCL to:
PPT, MIA, PUJ, HAV, MEX, CUN, LAX, BOG, CCS, UIO

LIM to:
LAX, JFK, MIA

GYE to
MAD

Regards )( Arcano



in order: 721,146,732,763,722,343,733,320,772,319,752,321,88,83,744,332,100,738, 333, 318, 77W, 78, 773 and 380
User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9526 times:

Concordeboy and Ual747

Thanx for emphasizing who is the biggest operator. But do you know specifically which routes they fly long-haul? I read in a thread when they got their 767-400 that they used it between Tokyo-via Saipan to the United States. But in terms of direct, do you know whats the longest?

I heard a European carrier used to do straight to LAS. I wonder if that was the longest. I know OZ before the 777's used to do ICN-SEA with a 767-300ER which is quite long. But again Air China and Air Canada's YVR-PEK routes are long and also Air Canada's YVR-PVG route....



Flown on: DC-10-30, B747-200B, B747-300, B747-300SR, B747-400, B747-400D, B767-300, B777-200, B777-200ER, B777-300
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9513 times:

BTW, are they ever going to get anymore 772's?


DL has five 772ERs on order, twenty on option, and five additional on rolling option...

...how many of these ever make it to the fleet, is any amateur's guess at this point.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9500 times:

But do you know specifically which routes they fly long-haul?

Yes, plenty.... of which I will not bother listing.



I read in a thread when they got their 767-400 that they used it between Tokyo-via Saipan to the United States.

That's CO cher, not DL.



But in terms of direct, do you know whats the longest?

Pretty sure JFK-CDG-BOM is DL's longest direct 767 flight.... I haven't looked out for any possible California-Europe add-ons of the same flight/aircraft.

FCO-ATL, for DL anyways.




I heard a European carrier used to do straight to LAS. I wonder if that was the longest.

As for Euro-carriers... I believe the longest scheduled 767 service for a good while, was AZ's flight to SFO using a 763ER. Don't quote me on that.

[Edited 2004-12-13 03:50:46]

User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9486 times:

"Thanx for emphasizing who is the biggest operator. But do you know specifically which routes they fly long-haul? I read in a thread when they got their 767-400 that they used it between Tokyo-via Saipan to the United States. But in terms of direct, do you know whats the longest?"

- Delta never operated any of the 767 variants transpacific. Delta DID operate FRA-BOM with the 763 (I think, or perhaps it was DEL)

UAL747


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9464 times:

Delta never operated any of the 767 variants transpacific

DL does that multiple times daily




Delta DID operate FRA-BOM with the 763 (I think, or perhaps it was DEL)

Wasnt DEL, and they still will op FRA-BOM.


User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9462 times:

Sorry, forgot the Hawaii Market....No US-ASIA flights with the 76

UAL


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3483 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9415 times:

Here are longhaul 767 routes:

ATL-HNL
SLC-HNL
CVG-HNL
LAX-HNL
SFO-HNL
ATL-ANC
SLC-ANC
CVG-LGW
CVG-FRA
CVG-CDG
CVG-FCO
CVG-AMS
ATL-LIM
ATL-GIG
ATL-GRU
ATL-SCL
ATL-LGW
ATL-MAN
ATL-DUB
ATL-SNN
ATL-CDG
ATL-FRA
ATL-MAD
ATL-BCN
ATL-BRU
ATL-AMS
ATL-FCO
ATL-MXP
ATL-MUC
ATL-STR
ATL-ZRH
ATL-SJO
JFK-CDG
JFK-FRA
JFK-AMS
JFK-BRU
JFK-MAD
JFK-BCN
JFK-FCO
JFK-MXP
JFK-VCE
JFK-TXL (coming soon)
JFK-NCE
JFK-IST
JFK-SVO
FRA-BOM
CDG-BOM

There are more by the way if anyone else cares to add to that list.

Jeremy


User currently offlineUsagypsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 9379 times:

AC YVR - PVG is the longest 767 flight I believe

User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9281 times:

I guess in the current run, is it AC's YYZ-NRT flight?

Does anybody know the site where I can check the range out?



Flown on: DC-10-30, B747-200B, B747-300, B747-300SR, B747-400, B747-400D, B767-300, B777-200, B777-200ER, B777-300
User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3128 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9177 times:

ConcordeBoy - I do not know where you got your info, but there is not a single transpacific 767 of Delta, and i believe only a couple in general, those being Air Canada. And once again your wrong with DL FRA-DEL, youre right DEL, but it is currently CDG, not FRA.

TWA902



life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9118 times:

DL fly daily JFK-CDG-BOM and daily JFK-FRA-BOM on the 763.

In the past, they did SLC-JFK-FRA-BOM, so that would probably be the longest direct flight.

Delta do not fly to Dilly.

[Edited 2004-12-13 09:08:51]

User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1086 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9083 times:

Since when is Hawaii transpacific?

That would be like saying flying to Oklahoma is transcontinental.



I can drive faster than you
User currently offlineDColeMAN From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 274 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8898 times:

I heard a European carrier used to do straight to LAS. I wonder if that was the longest.

Britannia fly a 763 weekly from BOH-SNN (fuel stop)-LAS, which is almost on the limit for a 767-300/ER. The maximum performance on the 'ER version is 5800nm when fueled up to the brim so LHR-LAS (LHR for example) is a 5200nm leg, so that's pushing it quite abit...

Dale



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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6476 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8855 times:

Alitalia had a NRT-MSP flight on a 767? Need more info on that flight?

User currently offlinePdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1116 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8716 times:

Hey SESGDL,

You forgot to include DL's new ATL-EZE service!!

DL has expanded its non-stop South America service out of ATL


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3647 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8546 times:

They fly the 763ER to SVO. Do they fly that over the Pacific or through Europe? I thought it was trans-Pacific, somebody help me out here...


PHX based
User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8461 times:

Condor seasonal did (or is doing?) FRA-LAS.

User currently offlineAirliner777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8427 times:

LAN has 18 767s, all used in long hauls:

Delta Airlines has 123 Boeing 767s with 38 more in order. hehehe  Big grin


User currently offlineLegendDC9 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8416 times:

TLV-ORD is the longest from what I can tell, 6162 miles, operated on LY 767-200ER. Some of the others posted are not close:

LAS/FRA - 5570
ATl/EZE - 5012
FRA/BOM - 4082
LAX/SCL - 5661


User currently offlineKrisYYZ From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8072 times:

Here are some of Air Canada's B767 long-haul services:

AC1 YYZ-NRT 6406mi
AC90 YYZ-GRU 5096mi
AC92 YYZ-SCL 5359mi
AC86 YYZ-TEL 5782mi
AC29 YVR-PEK 5282mi
AC35 YVR-KIX 5203mi
AC34 YVR-PVG 5608mi
AC884 YYC-FRA 4682mi

AC's 762's and AC763's also serve most transatlantic and high capacity domestic operations.
According to air canada.ca there are Currently 14 762's and 33 763's in operation. But I think there are 42 B767 currently in Air Canada's fleet.

KrisYYZ


25 N867bx : If Alitalia ever flew NRT-MSP I will eat ConcordeBoy's drawer's
26 Panamair : According to DL's schedules, their three longest 763ER nonstop routes (by miles) are: ATL-FCO - 5035 miles JFK-IST - 5011 miles ATL-EZE - 4998 miles T
27 Tan flyr : Prior to LHR being all 777 service (on AA), I do recall AA flying LAX-LHR with a 767-223ER.
28 OB1783P : I agree with Ktachiya that the seating pattern of the 767 should make it very comfortable for long haul. However, it has been my experience that the 7
29 Warszawa : Couple more very long 767 routes: SFO-EGLL ( United ) LAX - UUEE ( Aeroflot ) = 6079 Miles
30 3201 : One former Europe to LAS 763 op was Citybird BRU-LAS-OAK-BRU (which I flew BRU-LAS-OAK on 25 Aug 98, OO-CTQ). They did that routing once a week and BR
31 Gilesdavies : Back in the late 80's and early 90's Briannia Airways operated their 767's from the UK to Australia. That has gotta be one of the longest routes.
32 Nycfuturepilot : the 767 is not often used on "flagship" routes, or whatever the routes are called on which a carrier is trying to show itself at its very best. Though
33 Arcano : Airliner777: Delta Airlines has 123 Boeing 767s with 38 more in order. hehehe It's not a contest, nor a comparison. LAN is still one on of the largest
34 Ktachiya : N867bx NRT-MSP was really a 767-300 for Alitalia before they got their T7's into the market. Yes, that's quite a distance considering that all other E
35 ConcordeBoy : NRT-MSP was really a 767-300 for Alitalia before they got their T7's into the market. ...dude, what they've been trying to tell you is that AZ flew N
36 N867bx : MSP=Minneapolis/St Paul (where those red tails often go) MXP=Milan Glad we could clear that up, did not want to eat anyones drawer's today.
37 Ktachiya : Sorry about that. How many miles is that btw? I asked if anyone knew the address to the site that could calculate the distances but can you guys give
38 Ktachiya : Wow.... I actually find out that its 6147 miles now. So is YYZ-NRT the furthest route for the time being then? So YYZ-NRT would leave about 1000 kilom
39 Post contains links ConcordeBoy : I asked if anyone knew the address to the site that could calculate the distances but can you guys give me the url? http://gc.kls2.com
40 MaverickM11 : "ConcordeBoy - I do not know where you got your info, but there is not a single transpacific 767 of Delta," Hawaii.
41 Post contains images Airliner777 : Arcano: It's not a contest, nor a comparison. LAN is still one on of the largest consumers of the 767 (11th I think), and the 100% of them are used in
42 Carpethead : It still amazes me that AC does YYZ-NRT on 763. Probably close to zilch in the cargo hold on the westbound leg. AZ did NRT-FCO on a 763, which is even
43 ConcordeBoy : About the only exception is DL currently because it has very few aircraft bigger than 763 on int'l routes. Um, the 772ER is the flagship of DL's fleet
44 Ktachiya : Concordeboy Thanx for that URL
45 Bananaboy : Britannia fly a 763 weekly from BOH-SNN (fuel stop)-LAS, which is almost on the limit for a 767-300/ER. The maximum performance on the 'ER version is
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