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World's Most Remote Airport?  
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2171 posts, RR: 13
Posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 32861 times:

Just a question here: which is the world's most remote airport with scheduled pax or civilian cargo traffic, EXCLUDING INTER-ISLAND FLIGHTS? Measurements in kms/mi/nms, not time.

The reason I put in the "excluding inter-island flights" constraint is that, for instance, a place like PPT is quite remote if you consider the next "big" airport (Rarotonga I guess), but it's not remote at all if you consider all the smaller French Polynesian airports clustered around it. Therefore I would like to exclude the latter category. Same goes for HNL: remote from everything other than some other Hawaiian Island.

However, I would include flights that go beyond an island group, for instance HNL-MAJ, which is a link between the Hawaiian Islands and the Marshall Islands.

So, what are your candidates? Mine is Isla de Pasqua (IPC/SCIP), which is 2,030 nm from its next airport, which is SCL.

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User currently offlinePilotGirl From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 32792 times:

Possibly Easter Island.

I recall a/c going there needed to call in about 3 hours out on HF to confirm the previous a/c cleared the runway and it was clear of other obstructions, else they diverted.


User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2171 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 32759 times:

Oh, actually I need to add to my previous post: I think Ascension Island in the Atlantic is even more remote. The only scheduled traffic that it sees is Royal Air Force to the Falklands and Brize Norton in Oxfordshire, usually operated by an RAF Tristar, or by an Airbus A 320 from Air Luxor!

The distance from Ascension to Brize Norton is 3,796 nm!


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 32716 times:

Amundsen-Scott in Antarctica. Only accessible part of the time by ski-eqiupped USAF C-130s.


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User currently offlineRoblondon70 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 32715 times:

But ASI is only 1,143 from FNA!!

User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6465 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 32700 times:

Ascencion Island to Recife Brazil is a fairly short distance 1500 nm maybe.

User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2171 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 32634 times:

Roblondon70 and Bobnwa,

you are absolutely right, and upon re-reading my question I must say that I misstated my question.

Actually I wanted to know about the most remote airport in terms of the closest scheduled destination. As you correctly point out, geography-wise ASI is close to both Brazil and Africa, but since there are no flights to neither Brazil nor Africa, but the only flights going to ASI are the ones stopping there on their way from the UK to the Falklands, it is remote using my originally intended "definition".

Thanks for your replies, I am really happy to have "two types of answers" here.

Cheers


User currently offlineCheco77 From Peru, joined Oct 2004, 1345 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 32575 times:

What about some aiports in Siberia, Russia. Pretty big distances between cities since Siberia is extremely big.
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User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 32522 times:
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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2898 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 32486 times:

@Mozart: Air Luxor has TriStars too (not sure how many of them are actually airworthy now...) and I am sure they would use those to fly to the Falklands rather than their arguably more fancy A320's.

Regarding most distant airport: what about Longyearbyen? Or Petropavlovsk-Kamchatka?



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7408 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 32418 times:
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User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1774 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 32397 times:

Iqaluit, Nunavut, Canada.

User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 32364 times:
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Probably Easter Island, There are no alternate airports you can divert to from there in all but the longest-ranged aircraft...

All flights to/from Easter Island have to operate to a tightly controlled schedule in order to avoid conflicts. Even within that system, clearence is not given by ATC for a flight to pass the point of no return until the runway is clear - no 2 aircraft are ever permitted to become committed to land at IPC incase the first one fails on the runway...

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User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2171 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 32285 times:

BuyantUkhaa,

you're right, Air Luxor has some Tristars, but according to Ascension Island's website they are using Airbusses:

http://www.ascension-island.gov.ac/visitors.htm

Wonder how they cover that distance? The A320 doesn't have that much range, unless they really load-restrict it, but given that this flight is something like a lifeline to Ascension and to Falkland, I would imagine it to be rather stuffed with cargo.

Longyearbyen has BU flights to Tromso, which is a mere 519nm. Petropavlovsk-Kamchatksa has flights to Vladivostok, which is 1196nm.


Noise,

I guess Iqaluit really feels very distant, but there are flights to YOW, which is 1196nm. Still I'ld love to travel up there once (only done so in my flight sim so far).

For me it still looks like Ascension Island.



User currently offlineMinmiester From Australia, joined May 2001, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 32027 times:

PER is very far from the nearest international airport (ADL), but there are plenty of other much smaller regional airports in Western Australia.

Cheers

MinMiester


User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 31987 times:
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The Ascension Island website just says the flights are operated by an Air Luxor Airbus - which is correct, they use their A330s. Until earlier this year the contract had been operated for a while by bmi with their "spare" A330.

The photo on their web page of the Air Luxor Airbus taking-off from Wideawake Airfield made me suspicious;



I didn't have to look far and it turned out to be an airliners.net photo of an Air Luxor A320 leaving Funchal

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User currently offlineVikingair From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 100 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 31954 times:

Blytheville, Arkansas. No kidding it's in the middle of nowhere  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2171 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 31900 times:

Crosswind,

you're right. I couldn't believe it either. The A320 simply doesn't have the range. And on surfing the Ascension website a bit more, they do indeed refer to "Tristar and A330 flights". Now that makes sense to me!

Other question, though: why Air Luxor and not one of the UK charters? And what is it like to fly with the RAF as a civilian pax?


User currently offlineKeno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 27
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 31684 times:

Strictly speaking, there is a nearer airport to Easter Island than SCL which is Mangareva (Gambier Island) in eastern French Polynesia, where Air Tahiti flies from PPT several times weekly on ATR7. IPC-GMR is 1406nm apart but there are of course, no scheduled services between them.

Also, Kiritimati (Christmas) Island, Kiribati is pretty remote too, it's about 1000++ nm from any airport. I believe AQ used to have scheduled (or was it charter?) services HNL-CXI but not sure if this is still the case. I once read that to fly to the capital of Kiribati (Tarawa) from there, one has to fly to HNL first, then to Majuro, and finally change to Tarawa. That's involving 2 foreign countries just to travel between the two ends of the same country.



User currently offlineArcano From Chile, joined Mar 2004, 2407 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 31494 times:

Aerovias DAP (Chilean Patagonia Airline) route map (nothe Tierra del Fuego island, shared by Chile and Argentina at the end of South America... the truly end of the world)



Destinations from Punta Arenas (PUQ)
In Chile:
Porvenir (WPR)
Cerro Sombrero (SMB)
Puerto Williams (WPU)
Puerto Natales (PNT)

In Argentina
Río Gallegos (RGL)
Río Grande (RGA)
Ushuaia (USH) (Also flown by LA from SCL)
Calafate (FTE)

Plus:
Islas Malvinas/Falkland (MPN) (also flown by LA from SCL)

Easter Island is indeed the most remote island from mainland.

Regards )( Arcano



[Edited 2004-12-14 03:33:26]


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User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5517 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 31209 times:

For anyone that's actually been there: DEN.  Big grin

User currently offlineJc2354 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 581 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 31205 times:

Would Guam rate in the category?


If not now, then when?
User currently offlineManu From Canada, joined Dec 2004, 406 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 31085 times:

What about Alert, NWT? I guess it would be Nunavut now, not NWT. At 82.5° N 62.3° W it is so far north and away from everything. Although it really only gets military scheduled service.

User currently offlineRj111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 31059 times:

By applying Etops 60 to the GCM cant you just pick out the most remote airport, which i estimate to be that one west of south america. Of course i doubt GCM has all the airports and i dont know whether that particular airport has a sheduled service.



Edit: And now i realise that is IPC



[Edited 2004-12-14 04:38:52]

User currently offlineKDTWFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 828 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 30874 times:

Speaking of Alert Airport in far north Canada, what is it used for anyways? As far as for remote airports, Easter Island gets my vote.


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25 Bill142 : PER is very far from the nearest international airport (ADL), but there are plenty of other much smaller regional airports in Western Australia. Cheer
26 Post contains images StevenUhl777 : I would also have guessed Siberia and the Kamchatka Peninsula in the Russian Far East. There are airports there for emergencies that can handle 744 an
27 Minmiester : "Perth is the most isolated city in the world, going by that theory PER is the most isolated airport. However there are (at least I think, never been
28 IFLYMCO : My best friend will be going to Easter Island today actually (December 14th). I'll try and get her to take pictures, and maybe formulate a trip report
29 Tango-Bravo : Los Cabos, Mexico (SJD) is remote in the sense that it is a 20 minute drive from either Cabo San Lucas or San Jose del Cabo through totally undevelope
30 Manu : Alert is a signals intelligence collection and geolocation facility, radio HFDF facility (SAR), and supports Department of Environment weather service
31 FlyMeToTheMoon : DCA! It is in Virginia, on the Confederate side of the Potomac. Practically another country. Love the place tough...
32 Post contains images Planesarecool : Anywhere where Ryanair flies to... -Stephen
33 Mozart : If Kerguelen only had an airport, or Tristan de Cunha...
34 Rj111 : What about Casey base in Antartica? They were planning a seasonal scheduled service from Hobart at some point IIRC.
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