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First Choice Airways New 767  
User currently offlineFCA7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 30 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4002 times:

Hi,

Do anyone know when FCA will be receiving their new 767's?

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User currently offlineRuscoe From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1567 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

Anyone know when first choice will firm up their 7e7's?
Ruscoe


User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3802 times:

Hi, Nice name FCA7E7

G-OOBK 767-324ER (VN-A762) ex Vietnam Airlines is due Jan 05 (Currently in FCA colours)
G-OOBL 767-324ER (VN-A764) ex Vietnam Airlines is due Jan 05
G-OOBM 767-300 ex Vietnam Airlines is due Winter 05/06

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Current 767's
G-OOAL 767-38AER will return to lessor March 05
G-OOAN 767-39HER will be taken out of service between Jan-Mar 05 for referbishment
So FCA will at the most have 3 767's operating until winter 05 when the third ex Vietnam Airlines arrives

Hope this answers your question

Ruscoe:
The 7E7's are due in 2009



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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

... should they sign for them, which seems to be in doubt at the moment.


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User currently offlineIanatstn From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3719 times:

Will we see the 757/767's of FCA retired with the delivery of the 7E7's (or 787 as it has nearly been confirmed), or will they compliment their existing fleet?

I can understand either way, as FCA are still 4/5 years from receiving the 7E7's, and new aircraft will help with any short term expansion FCA has planned...

Cheers,

Ian.



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User currently offlineJetset7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 1090 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3611 times:

I'm not sure, but the 767's will be kept on for a while, and the younger 757's in the fleet will be kept on, as FCA have added around 6 or 7 757's in the past year.

Still I'm not sure

Mark



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User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2093 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3598 times:

If anything I'd expect to see First Choice adding 767s over the next couple of years. Of the UK holiday companies they are the ones who've adapted the best to changing travel trends, actually achieving close to 5% returns on package holidays (Making them amrket leaders) and are placing an increased focus on longhaul holidays. Complete turn around from the basket case the company was a few years back (In comparison to Airtours, now MyTravel, who were market leaders at that time and who are now the basket case). First Choice have also been operating scheduled flights, like Monarch, for several years now within Europe, and both are doing well here.


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User currently offlineUKA330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3557 times:
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Anyone know when first choice will firm up their 7e7's?

I think I read some where that they are waiting to see the details of the A350 before they commit to the 7E7.


User currently offlineThomasCook From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 796 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3560 times:

Hi,

I have worked with First Choice for a while, and after doing so, learnt that they are in fact, not the so called 'market leader' you say they are FlyCaledonian!

One of the things that came to my knowledge; the new B767s are not ready to support all the services that First Choice have been selling them on. I have also learnt that they have very poor after sales service and even go so far as to laugh at their customers in some cases!

It will also be of major interest that MyTravel Group should have now owned First Choice if it weren't for fowl play on FC’s behalf, which consequently lead major losses from MyTravel! MyTravel have an EU court case against First Choice pending which will be of a great financial gain to MYT.

First Choice aren't all they are cracked up to be!

Regards
ThomasCook



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User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2093 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3512 times:

ThomasCook, I was going by what the UK financial press were saying, regarding First Choice as being a well managed company performing well given the current woes of the travel industry. And it's maybe just as well MyTravel, or Airtours as it was then, didn't acquire First Choice as both companies probably wouldn't exist now. As I recall First Choice was proposing a merger with Kuoni, which Airtours, then on an acquisition spree, wanted to prevent by acquiring First Choice. As then Market leader the EU considered the enlarged Airtours group would have been too dominant. As for foul play by First Choice, what exactly are you refering too?

It's a bit on the speculative side to say the EU court case will be of "great financial gain" to MyTravel as the case hasn't even begun, let alone a verdict delivered. As for saying they "laugh at their customers" where's your proof? Seem very bitter against the company for some reason. I've seen some weird stuff on here before but its not often I've read a post and considered it could be libelous!



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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3504 times:

FCA rock, they are the best charter by far and i've flown them all (well almost Big grin).

Don't the 767's look odd with the different door positions in FCA colours, looks like a different plane.

My am I glad that G-OOAN will go for a service, or any of their 767'. They seriouslyfall behind the rest of the fleet. I was on one on an hour and a half and stuck on the ground in it for 2 hours. I was 13 back there, so quite a bit smaller an the comfort was agonising. Now their A32X's and B757's are a whole different story Smile

Sam Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineThomasCook From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 796 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3403 times:

Hi,

FlyCaledonian

In a hearing, the conclusion was made that FC blocked the acquisition.

In regards to proof about seeing the staff laughing at customers... I physically witnessed staff laughing at customers when I worked in the travel shop. I'm hardly going to make it up!

Regards
ThomasCook



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User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3393 times:

And I suppose nothing like that has ever happened in a Thomas Cook shop  Insane
First Choice are not responsible for the financial mess MyTravel got themselves into. You can't deny that First Choice are a successful company and it can only be a good thing that they are trying to offer something different in the market. The upgraded 767's are not due to begin full service until the summer season so they have a few months left to get them 'ready'.

Mark



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User currently offlineThomasCook From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 796 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3373 times:

Hi,

Demoose

I have no idea of what happens in a Thomas Cook shop! I am not denying their success but the fact remains that FC contributed to MYTs losses.

About the B767s! Thats just it, they won't be ready for all the services they have been marketted for, even by summer. The most notable route being Sanford.

Regards
ThomasCook



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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24938 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3359 times:

Everyone knows that not all of the FCA 767s will be in the new config for 2005 anyway, as I believe Crosswind has stated that here some time ago


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User currently offlineFCA7E7 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

Some very strong words said against First Choice Thomascook. It sounds like you have a bit of a grudge against FC!

I actually work for First Choice Airways, and have to say that they are the best at what they do ( and I am really not just saying that because I work for them!)

I am lead to believe that 2 of the new 767's are already being fitted out, and will enter into service in Jan'05, also don't forget that FCA's busy period does not really start until end of May start of June'05, thus giving them plenty of time to get things ready.

As for MyTravel loosing money because of FC - utter rubbish! If MYT had kept their "Accounting procedures" in order, then they wouldn't be struggling each day to keep their heads above water. MYT are also following in FCA's footsteps in reducing crew numbers and having only part year bases - all of which FCA did years ago!


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