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Frontier A319's W/ Flag Missing  
User currently offlineN80NA From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 184 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2633 times:

I've noticed that the 2 newest A319's (N934FR and N935FR)
do not have the American flag above the registration.

appears these are the only 2 A319's w/out the flag

Any reason why ?

N934FR in service : no flag


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N934FR on delivery flt from Hamburg : no flag


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User currently offlineSPREE34 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2240 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2578 times:

I don't know. But I say leave the flag off. It doesn't add anything to the scheme.


I don't understand everything I don't know about this.
User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

put it on. Its the best Flag in the world.




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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2525 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

I'm guessing it isn't put on when its being produced in Europe, and gets put on sometime after entering service. If you look at the other pictures of FR A319's prior to delivery, none of them have the flag....

User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24999 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2351 times:
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You're right. None of Frontier's aircraft photographed at Hamburg will have the flag on them.

Until Frontier signs the delivery agreement the plane doesn't belong to them, and I doubt the ferry crew would carry the decals in their luggage or stick 'em on.

Even when the aircraft gets here there is stuff to do, and then it has to go to Florida for the DirecTV installation - and they don't do the decals either.

It may go straight into service after that, so there can be a time lag before it gets the flag.

cheers

mariner



aeternum nauta
User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1433 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2301 times:

"... Its the best Flag in the world."

IMHO the Canadian one is best.  Smile

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2271 times:

I think mine (flag) is the best!  Smokin cool

KdX in TLH / FLL


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

But is there any real reason for this? Because there are planes in the database that do, in fact, already have their respective country's flag on them, even though they're still in Hamburg...

The ones I've found:

Mexican Flag above the windows:
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Ok, not the country's, but the EU Flag:
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Austrian Flag in Hamburg:
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US Flag, though still wearing the German registration:
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South African Flag while still wearing the German registration:
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So: why does Frontier not have the flag on the plane at Hamburg?

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineN1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26361 posts, RR: 76
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

Probably because they don't take them with them for ferry. F9 does carry the flag on the planes though, as all flag carriers (F9 is one) have to.


Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineIlsapproach From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 410 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

I believe the answer is.......................F9 does not fly out of the US regularly.......only to Mexico during the cold months such as now.

This is one thing I always wondered about Ozark. None of the pictures I have of Ozark planes or have seen don't have one either.

Just a guess...................sounds good doesn't it?


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User currently offlineJetmek319 From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 199 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

The flags are not put on in HAM for one reason. It costs too much!! Airbus would require that the external livery drawings be modified to include the flag, and Frontier would be required to pay for the change paperwork (usually a one time $3000 filing fee, plus additional fees for the printing/materials/labor on a per aircraft basis!). The flags are put on when we have a bit of time that the aircraft will be on the ground, and the temperature is agreeable, or we have hangar space available


Never, ever moon a werewolf !!
User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1960 times:


Maybe Frontier isn´t that patriotic after all......

*LOL*

Micke  Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2992 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1930 times:

I think either (a) Frontier management is expressing its displeasure at the results of the election, or (b) it's a subversive plot by the French.  Laugh out loud


Common sense is not so common. -Voltaire
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