LMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1901 times:
I have always maintained that STN and DUB are too long for FR. Now that FR will probably be increasing frequencies and destinations from Italy, following the demise of Volare, it is more than likely that they use those new markets to operate to MLA. Italy is a substantial market for MLA, both for business due to its proximity, and leisure especially in the summer months.
I still think that EZ will fly to MLA from Germany this Summer.
BCal From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 18 Reply 3, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1863 times:
I would think that as the flight from STN to MLA would be over 3 hours, this is beyond the usefulness for LCCs as far as the European market is concerned. Passengers would want something by way of service normally unavailable on LCC - be it meal service, IFE or sufficient seat pitch. Go (BA's LCC that demerged from BA following a management buyout and then was taken over by easyJet) tried STN to Tenerife without success. The flight was too long for limited service and it was only possible to do one rotation in a day.
MLA is adequately served by GB Airways and Air Malta from LGW/LHR. Flights on GB Airways are available from £68 one-way. There are also numerous UK charter operators on the route.
Obviously FR must be looking at MLA for its Italian operation.
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Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4106 posts, RR: 12 Reply 4, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1859 times:
Maybe too long for Ryanair, but you have to bare in mind that easyJet serve Athens from Gatwick and Luton, which i about 4 hours. But yeah, probably something from Bergamo, Ciampino, or maybe even Girona?
Diesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1633 posts, RR: 12 Reply 5, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1830 times:
The point about the length of the flight is valid as around 3 hours seems to be the maximum length considered feasible to operate low cost within the European market - however, I believe that this shouldn't be considered too big an impediment.
A flight from London to Malta is only a shade over 3 hours.
Ryanair already operate to a number of destinationns in Southern Italy - Bari, Brindisi and Palermo. all of these destinations have flights around the 3 hour mark, as do flights like Stockholm Skavsta to Shannon and girona.
In summary, I wouldn't dismiss a London to Malta operation.
Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3732 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1814 times:
If they have some long sectors and very short sectors, then this balances out and the average is about 2 hours. Also keeps the number of take offs and landings per airframe per week to a more reasonable number.
Some of those LON-MLA low fares on BA and Air Malta are not available at weekends and do get very expensive as you get close to the departure date.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19022 posts, RR: 53 Reply 7, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1805 times:
'I have always maintained that STN is too long for FR from Malta...'
As had already been stated, some of FR's flights, like STN-PMO, are just slightly less in duration as what STN-MLA would be, so I do not see this as a problem.
'Passengers would want something by way of service normally unavailable on LCC - be it meal service, IFE.'
FR will offer pay-to-view IFE on all its aircraft sometime next year.
'May be they would do an overnighter from LON.'
I guess there are quite a few potential destinations from MLA, including STN/LTN, BVA, CRL, GRO, CIA, BGY, destinations in Spain, HHN, and so forth. Actually, there seems to be an awful lot of scope, especially from France, Italy, Germany and the UK.
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LMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1763 times:
All very valid arguments. Then there is the question of landing and handling fees. AirMalta (KM) is, so far, the only ground handling agent at MLA. And AirMalta is battling its own set of problems at present. The last thing it needs is Ryanair operating low cost on KM's major tourist routes.
As from January Globeground/Servisair will start operating in MLA. But the question remains: MLA is still a mainline airport. Who is going to pay the landing fees for FR?
Adriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 511 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (8 years 12 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1540 times:
They should take malta seriously.
Passengers would want something by way of service normally unavailable on LCC - be it meal service, IFE or sufficient seat pitch
I am very happy with FR if the price is right. Airlines like Swiss operate long(ish) flights without Meals and make you pay. Malta would make a great FR destination, and they should get in early. Valetta is very beautiful and would have year round attration due to the nice weather even in December.