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Airlines Make Extra Hajj Flights To Saudi Arabia  
User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6256 times:

Hi everyone..

I would like to learn; during Hajj time which airlines make extra flights to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia? As far as I know only Saudia can fly to Madinah.

I just know Turkish Airlines and Onur Air(with SV colours) make extra flights.

bst rgrds....

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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4784 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6153 times:

virtually all the heavily populated Muslim state airlines...BG-PIA-GA-MS-MH-IR and non ones such as AI.

User currently offlineATLhomeCMH From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 770 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6109 times:

I'm just curious...in Islam, is there one mandated time of year when Muslims must make their pilgrimage to Mecca, or is it just any time during their life?




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User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6101 times:

For Hajj there is a specific time every year. If you go to Mecca another time it is a prayer again but not Hajj. In Islam it is obligatory to make Hajj once in a lifetime..
I hope it is clear  Smile


User currently offlineClipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 679 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6100 times:

The answer is whomever the Muslim countries can get their hands on. You do not have to be a Muslim carrier to fly to Medina. We flew that route for years flying for MAS and Garuda. There are never enough a/c available to carry all of the pilgrims to the Hajj. When Pan Am shut down in '91, 2 of our 747's were used by some fly-by-night outfit to fly from Kano to JED for the Nigerian Hajj. You talk about a goatrope. Those planes would sit in Kano until every seat was filled and only then did they depart for Jeddah. It could take several days to fill them up. Recently however, the Nigerians have been refused from partaking in the Hajj because of the terrible medical issues that thrive throughout the country. World finally gave up on the Hajj when we severed ties with MAS.

Ed




Ed
User currently offlineATLhomeCMH From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 770 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6094 times:

Emrecan:

Thanks. That's what I thought, but I just wanted to clarify.



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User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6083 times:

Clipper002..

as far as I know to Madinah, only Saudia Flights are allowed. I may be wrong.
But Madinah Airport is not allowed international flights except Saudia...(I know this)


User currently offlineClipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 679 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6037 times:

Emrecan,
That may have changed over the past several years as we have not operated a Hajj for quite some time. But, we did operate on behalf of MAS to Medina in 1999. It really caused some heavy crew scheduling problems for us. Our crews stayed at the Resident Sheraton Hotel Medina.

Ed



Ed
User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6029 times:

Ed,

You know more than me  Smile
I went there only as a normal person not as a flight personal. So what you say is true  Smile


User currently offlineClipper002 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 679 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6014 times:

It probably worked because we were flying under MAS call signs and flight numbers. The coordination that has to go on to set up this huge movement of people is really something to see. You have carriers from all over the world and representatives from every Muslim country all coming together at once and agreeing on a plan of operation. The Hajj board is really a great group to work with. It's a shame that we have gone from what we had then to what is happening today in that part of the world.

Ed



Ed
User currently offlineFlyingInTheSky From Kuwait, joined Dec 2004, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5889 times:

Hello there ,

I think I do agree with the idea that it's only Saudi Airlines are the sole operator to Medina . I've checked all airlines schedule and timetable on Kuwait International airport that could be operating flights to Medina ,and it was only the Saudi Flights .

Anyway for these who are going for Haj it's much closer to Mecca from Jeddah rather than Medina .And the airport itself has a terminal which made specially for the Haj season .



My Regards ,,,,


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4504 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5825 times:

For the first time this year, Garuda Indonesia will be allowed to operate Haji charter flights into Madinah, which has so far been restricted to Saudia flights. These Madinah flights, which will carry some of the 210,000 Indonesian pilgrims on more than 500 Haji charters operated by SV and GA from various points in Indonesia (Medan, Batam, Jakarta, Solo, Surabaya, Balikpapan, Makassar), will take some of the pressure of Jeddah's King Abdul Azziz International Airport, which can be a real nightmare to operate into during the peak Haji times. Haji flights out of Indonesia will start on Sunday, December 19.



User currently offlineAirbusCanada From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5827 times:

"For Hajj there is a specific time every year. If you go to Mecca another time it is a prayer again but not Hajj. In Islam it is obligatory to make Hajj once in a lifetime..
I hope it is clear "


Just to make it clear, it is obligatory to make Hajj only if you can afford to go to madina. If you dont' have the money or u can't go for medical or any orther reason, you dont' have to.


User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5778 times:
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SAA have arranged special Hajj flights for years, in fact one such flight was forced to return to Johannesburg after severe turbulence injured several passengers and caused damage to the 747SP.




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User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5737 times:

AirbusCanada,

For Hajj it is a must to be in Makkah. Of course if you have medical and economical problems, to make Hajj is not obligatory..


User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3487 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5676 times:


Last year several airlines get approvals to fly to Medinah in an attempt to decongest traffic at JED. Tunisair for example had its flights so that pilgrims landing in MED depart from JED and vice versa. The program of this year is not yet reveiled but nothing new is expected. Airbuses will shuttle 24/7 between Tunisia (8 airports) and Saudi Arabia.


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6859 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5542 times:

This year:
Garuda will fly to Jeddah and Madinah for the first time...
MAS will fly to Jeddah and Madinah... However, flights into Madinah will be operated by Muslim pilots and cabin crew, while the non-Muslim pilots will serve Jeddah.

Mandala499



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User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3487 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5530 times:


Last year Nouvelair Tunisie flew pilgrims from Bosnia Herzegova and Albania to Jeddah and LTU had several DUS-JED flights.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5523 times:

A Turkish friend of mine told me yesterday that he is going to fly to Saudi Arabia (JED) for Hadj soon. Unfortunately I forgot to ask on which airline he is flying because we only met for a few seconds on the street and were blocking the traffic, I will ask him for more details on Sunday when we meet us again.

Patrick


User currently offlineA345-Fan From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5504 times:

Hajj-flights are very adventurously; I heart from a situation where some passengers tried to make a campfire in the corridor of a LT A333.
After the Hajj-flights the aircrafts are more than ready for a complete technical check and refurbishment.

[Edited 2004-12-17 15:25:41]

User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5476 times:

I want to add to this topic also

After Hajj time, when you are on the way to your home (whereever it is) you have to be at the Jeddah Airport at least 8-10 hours before the flight time.
in 2003 I saw 2 Turkish A343s and 4 A310s at Jeddah Airport. Also I saw lots of 747s (Air India, Saudia, Malaysian, Garuda Indonesia, etc..) I`ve visited lots of countries but believe me non of the airports can`t be as busy as Jeddah Airport during Hajj time. It was amazing for me but for the people who doesn`t like airplanes it is very boring to spend 8 hrs. at an airport  Smile


User currently offlineORDAgent From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5435 times:

A coworker worked for a U.S. charter carrier and there was a separate Hajj terminal in Jeddah! AFAIK this is huge operation and since Saudi Arabia is just as difficult to get a visa for even for Hajj the entry process can be a nightmare. The last time I flew LH from FRA to ORD the aircraft was packed with pax that connected from a Jeddah LH charter. As far as Medina AFAIK the Saudi Arabia is relaxing Medina entrances since Jeddah is at capacity during the Hajj. Even though I'm not Muslim the idea of going to the Hajj fascinates me. A literal sea of humanity with the same goal must be amazing to see.



User currently offlineIakobos From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 3313 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5420 times:

A345-Fan,

I can confirm the situation you heard of, we used to fly hajj with our 707 and A-300 for several years, mostly out of Nigeria.

As ORD agent mentioned, a sea of humanity, but remember that the sea carries a lot of things, not only fresh fish...


User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5383 times:

MS plan to increase their flights from the normal 3x daily flights to 19x daily flights (23 on the peak day).

Lotus Air (like last year) will fly charter flights from Pristina to Jeddah as well as from Al-Arish (just across the border from the Gaza Strip) to transport Palestinian pilgrims.

Horus




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User currently offlinePIA747 From Pakistan, joined Apr 2003, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 5330 times:

PIA has leased 3 additional B747-200 aircaft to add capacity for the Hajj. 2 from Orient Thai and 1 from Air universal. The following is the link to PIA's Hajj schedule. Leased aircaft is marked as B74L.

http://www.piac.com.pk/hajj/Hajj_flight_schedule.asp


25 Emrecan : ORDAgent: You cannot believe that crowd, believe me... Also the Jeddah Airport is may be 10 times more busy than the normal. Madinah Airport cannot be
26 FlyingInTheSky : I know that BA now operate their flights to Jeddah and Riyadh via Kuwait ......... Does anyone knows if BA has the traffic right to take passenger fro
27 Post contains links KEno : Scheduled and charter hajj flights from Malaysia departs primarily from Kuala Lumpur, but also from regional airports in Johor Bahru (near Singapore)
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