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User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6608 posts, RR: 24
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 6291 times:

http://www.chennaionline.com/colnews/newsitem.asp?NEWSID=%7B40378757-3333-4DEA-A037-8BC6F49BDB01%7D&CATEGORYNAME=Business

According to this article, DL will be launching service to Chennai from JFK (via Paris) on May 11th 2005. I don't know a lot about India, but I guess the folks at DL think this service will work. I know Mumbai works well.



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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2644 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 6190 times:

This would be sweet. I have a lot of friends that go from USA to MAA. This may increase their options!


B4REAL, spelled like it sounds
User currently offlineNamaskar From Switzerland, joined Dec 2004, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6014 times:

Wow. I cannot find any corresponding links on Delta's webpage, but I was able to find it on Travelocity. This is the schedule I found:

Delta Air Lines Flug 16 auf einem BOEING 767 JET
Departure: New York Kennedy (JFK) 11 Mai um 17:55
Arrival: Charles de Gaulle (CDG) 12 Mai um 07:35

Delta Air Lines Flug 16 auf einem BOEING 767 JET
Departure: Charles de Gaulle (CDG) 12 Mai um 10:45
Arrival: Madras, Indien (MAA) 13 Mai um 00:30

Delta Air Lines Flug 17 auf einem BOEING 767 JET
Departure: Madras, Indien (MAA) 21 Mai um 02:30
Arrival: Charles de Gaulle (CDG) 21 Mai um 09:40

Delta Air Lines Flug 17 auf einem BOEING 767 JET
Departure: Charles de Gaulle (CDG) 21 Mai um 13:35
Arrival: New York Kennedy (JFK) 21 Mai um 15:55


User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5958 times:

Was this made possible by the 2004 USA-France Open Skies treaty?

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19229 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5944 times:

Shame about the long times in CDG, but otherwise 'tis great.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineFoxecho From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 747 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5930 times:

I've been told its loaded in Worldspan, but if there was a press release I missed it.....but its confirmed

Andrew
JFK/MEM/MCI



..uh, we'll need that to live......
User currently offlineSshank From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5876 times:

Sweet Indeed! Talk was that Air France was looking into Chennai for next year - looks like Delta beat then to it!



User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5857 times:

Does DL have rights to fly pax CDG-BOM?


"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineMrNiji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5828 times:

Arrival: Madras, Indien (MAA) 13 Mai um 00:30

That they don't learn that it is called Chennai.. these semi-professionals

Does DL have rights to fly pax CDG-BOM?

Yes. Same for Winter JFK via FRA. They will definitely have these rights for MAA


User currently offlineNamaskar From Switzerland, joined Dec 2004, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5773 times:

Would Delta's 767-300ER have any payload restrictions on a route of that length? The former Sabena did MAA-BRU, but not sure whether they deployed the A340 or A330.

User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5722 times:
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Yes, the schedules have been loaded in virtually all CRS except on DL's website. No official press release from Delta yet either.

The departure time from CDG at 1045 would allow a passenger from JFK to arrive on the later DL118 flight and still make the connection. DL118 arrives CDG 0910 and continues to BOM at 1120. On the return to CDG arrival at 0940, decent connections are available to ATL at 1155 and CVG at 1135. The DL119 to JFK leaves at 1035 which is too close a connection I guess.

AF will probably codeshare on this new flight as well.


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 84
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5718 times:

Why Chennai, and not Delhi?

How does Chennai rank in top Indian destinations? I would have thought Kolkata and Bangalore to be above it as well.

CDG-MAA is marginally shorter than ATL-FCO. The 763ER will be fine for this route.

N

[Edited 2004-12-15 18:10:44]

User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5676 times:

Arrival: Madras, Indien (MAA) 13 Mai um 00:30

"That they don't learn that it is called Chennai.. these semi-professionals"


Tell that to 90% of US Indians who refer to it as Madras. This is intentional on DL's part. DL knows about the Chennai, they know about Bombay/Mumbai. Chennai has just not caught on like Mumbai



User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5613 times:

Some comments here that I hope will not be deleted by the moderators since it contains information that has not been documented elsewhere as yet.

a) The Delta service will be subject to Government approval. India and the US have reportedly reached tentative agreement on a MOU to the existing bilateral which will grant US carriers access to Chennai, Hyderabad and Bangalore in exchange for Indian carriers granted access to San Francisco, Washington DC and Houston. The new MOU is expected to be signed in January.

b) As noted on http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1860324/ US carriers hold virtually unrestricted fifth-freedom rights into India.

c) There is a significant market for O&D traffic between Paris and Chennai, partly due to the proximity of the former French colony of Pondicherry. Air India has always seen a relatively strong market on this route, going so far as to have operated direct service in the early-mid 1990s.

d) Chennai is the third busiest airport in India for international traffic. Delta will be the 16th carrier operating international flights from Chennai.

e) Air France would not be able to codeshare on this flight unless the India-France air services agreement is modified.


User currently offlineStealthpilot From India, joined May 2004, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5596 times:

Great news. Finally another option for us Bangalore people!! Hopefully this means I wont be forced to fly thru bombay anymore.
"Why Chennai, and not Delhi?"
If you ask me any city they pick withh do well, if they picked Hyderabad or Bangalore all would be full  Smile
-nikhil



eP007
User currently offlineSshank From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5534 times:

How does Chennai rank in top Indian destinations? I would have thought Kolkata and Bangalore to be above it as well

Huh??
Kolkata and Bangalore see about a quarter of the international traffic that Chennai does.




User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4401 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5519 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

Delta's World Gets Bigger -- Customers' World Shrinks: Delta Introducing Daily Service to Chennai, India via Paris
Wednesday December 15, 1:01 pm ET
Delta only U.S. carrier to offer service to Chennai and serve two cities in India


NEW YORK, Dec. 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Delta (NYSE: DAL - News) customers soon will have more access to India with new, planned daily service between New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport and Chennai (Madras), India, with a stop at Paris' Charles de Gaulle International Airport, beginning May 9.
Customers will benefit from the service and experience of the only U.S. carrier serving two cities in India, Mumbai and Chennai. Expanding international service is a key element of Delta's transformation plan, which will provide customers more access to the world.

"Customers in the United States and France now have direct access to one of the fastest growing service and technology centers in India," said Doug Blissit, vice president-Network Planning. "This new flight gives our customers in India more choices for international travel via two significant gateways -- Paris-Charles de Gaulle and New York-JFK. These cities offer travelers hundreds of convenient connections to destinations across Europe, Asia, Africa, Latin America and the United States."

Delta currently offers passengers daily New York-Paris-Mumbai flights and daily seasonal service from New York-Frankfurt-Mumbai.

The new service will feature the Boeing 767-300ER aircraft, featuring Delta's award-winning BusinessElite® service with seats in a 2x2x2 configuration and 60 inches of pitch.

DELTA'S NEW FLIGHT BETWEEN NEW YORK AND CHENNAI, VIA PARIS*

Flight Departs Arrives First Flight
16 New York-JFK at Paris-CDG at 7:55 a.m. May 9
6:10 p.m.
16 Paris at 10:45 a.m. Chennai at 12:30 a.m. May 10
17 Chennai at 2:30 a.m. Paris 9:40 a.m. May 11
17 Paris at 1:35 p.m. New York-JFK at May 11
3:55 p.m.
* Times subject to change.

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041215/clw040_1.html



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User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1434 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5498 times:

IMHO almost all of the secondary indian markets need more international carriers.
I know that when I am flying YYZ to HYD I want to bypass BOM and DEL at all costs. My current options are limited to QR, EK and LH (Feb '05) so lets hope we see more entrants soon.

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineFlyingInTheSky From Kuwait, joined Dec 2004, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5441 times:

That's great ..... new competition .......

But isn't that long from JFK-CDG and then CDG-MAA . well , I don't know how long does it take for direct route from CDG-MAA ,but , I can tell a little of my experience it takes approx. 6 Hours CDG-KWI and then 3-4 Hours from KWI-MAA ......

Anyway it will be nice to see some more competition to our operation chennai.



My regards ,,,,


User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2889 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 5309 times:

Good route choice but as stated in reply 13 subject to approvals.

User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

A step in the right direction towards DL's setting up a hub-type op at CDG. SO far, it's only been the BOM flight that one could connect to... Any idea if DL are planning any more flights (to anywhere) out of CDG?

User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 5136 times:

I don't think that DL is starting a hub type operation at CDG. What it is is that you cannot fly nonstop from the US-India, so if you are going to have to stop, why not stop in Paris, get a few Air France/Delta connections, and pick up some local traffic to fill the continuation!

User currently offlineCx750 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 4820 times:

I presume the local CDG-MAA local traffic will be a small proportion of the total onboards, US O&D's will probably make up 80% of the flight.

User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1483 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4785 times:

Good news for DL. Bad news for DL rampers! Some of the heaviest bags I have ever seen were bound for MAA. Make sure to lift with the legs!!!


Sometimes we don't realize the good times when we're in them
User currently offlineJasepl From India, joined Jul 2004, 3582 posts, RR: 39
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4779 times:

Flairport, I don't expect DL to do in France what NW or UA do in Japan, but it would make sense for them if they were to start more routes that required a stop enroute to do them via CDG.

Granted tha the scope is limited, because most of the eastbound destinations can be reached non-stop.


25 N1120a : >I don't expect DL to do in France what NW or UA do in Japan
26 Behramjee : This is really good news...so we now have DL and LH flying daily to MAA from EU and DL the only American carrier to serve Southern India. I guess that
27 Sshank : This is really good news...does this make DL the only Western airline to fly daily to MAA from EU and USA? LH flies daily 744s to FRA.
28 Jr : This is really good news...does this make DL the only Western airline to fly daily to MAA from EU and USA? BA flies twice weekly (maybe three times..
29 Post contains images MrNiji : The former Sabena did MAA-BRU, but not sure whether they deployed the A340 or A330. It was a A330 The new MOU is expected to be signed in January. Do
30 Skyguy : Has any US carrier ever served Chennai (Madras) in the past? I guess this means did PanAm or TWA ever serve this city in their time? Or is DL the firs
31 Behramjee : Mrniji, what airline are u now flying SIN-FRA?
32 Gigneil : Also from CDG, MAA pax have the option of flying DL transatlantic to JFK-CVG-SLC-ATL and BOS plus on AF codeshared USA flights. Delta doesn't serve S
33 Jr : On a side note, Madras was always called Chennai in the local language (tamil) even before they officially renamed it as Chennai for all other languag
34 Post contains images Jfklganyc : It's nice to see DL expanding their transatlantic service again. First JFK-Berlin was announced. They already started the second Mumbai flight via FRA
35 MrNiji : Mrniji, what airline are u now flying SIN-FRA? I postponed my visit but was booked on TG, which, for a 4 day notice and high season was more than fair
36 Panamair : "Would DL too be allowed to send MAA pax on AF EU operated codeshared flights?" Don't know about the new MAA flights but DL can carry pax. between som
37 Aa777jr : Wow, this is crazy! I have an ex-girlfriend that flys to BLR for the UN, maybe I'll hit up DL to get there if I ever go visit! AA777jr
38 Post contains images MrNiji : I have an ex-girlfriend that flys to BLR for the UN Oh, the poor girl
39 Kkfla737 : GREAT NEWS!!!!! I'm in Madras right now and just today vowed to myself to never fly Lufthansa again, because even though the flights are great, they a
40 Post contains images MrNiji : I'm in Madras right now and just today vowed to myself to never fly Lufthansa again, because even though the flights are great, they are not customer
41 Texdravid : I believe this is the first U.S. airline to MAA. Correct me if I'm wrong. MAA has come a long way since 1975 when I left with my parents for Chicago o
42 Kkfla737 : "I thought Sabena flew an A340 into MAA. At least they did more than once, because my parents flew the A340 out of and into MAA on them more than once
43 Sshank : am sick of LH though and dio fly Delta extensively domestically, so it would be great for me. I vowed today after Lufthansa wouldn't let me change my
44 MrNiji : I agree on the LH attitude - being a UA flyer domestically I will still be stuck with LH for a while. However, I bet this time next year things will b
45 Panamair : Wonder if DL will use MAA-based Indian f/as for this run like they do on the BOM-CDG-BOM runs. If they do, service on board will be much better. I had
46 HAWK21M : subject to approvals Doesn't those Three words connected to any Indian Deal wipe the smile of your face. regds MEL
47 Atmx2000 : How much of Jet and the other domestic airlines business involves connecting people arriving in major ports of entry like Bombay to their final destin
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