OYRJA From Denmark, joined Feb 2007, 77 posts, RR: 16 Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5061 times:
Hahaha!
10 pax is not good at all. But on the other hand It was on it's way to MMX. I wonder why they even have a flight to MMX when CPH is only 35km's away. Totally stupid imo.
DABZF From Germany, joined Mar 2004, 1190 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5036 times:
10 pax is not good at all. But on the other hand It was on it's way to MMX. I wonder why they even have a flight to MMX when CPH is only 35km's away. Totally stupid imo.
If I'm not wrong, the bus from MMX to Malmö city takes longer than the train from CPH... or at least the same time!
...10 pax on a flight and people are wondering why SK is doing so bad!?
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GodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2751 posts, RR: 18 Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4829 times:
If I'm not wrong, the bus from MMX to Malmö city takes longer than the train from CPH... or at least the same time!
When I flew ARN-MMX last year I had to go downtown by bus too, and that ride was really quite long. And since it was the crew bus that took us to the Hotel it didn't take as long as a regular one, so I don't want to be a passenger having to take one to town...
FBU 4EVER! From Norway, joined Jan 2001, 998 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4727 times:
In an affort to keep costs down,SAS has decided to abandon crew and aircraft nightstops away from the main bases.Instead,they have launched a series of very early departures from ARN to outlying destinations.Too early for most people and hence only 10 pax on this flight!Maybe it costs less to fly an empty 737/MD-80 for an hour or so in order to save on 5 crewmembers hotelrooms and per diem?
Note the unidentified ARN employee who says: "If the plane had gone a few more meters and maybe flipped over... With a fully fueled plane it could have gone to hell." Talk about sensationalism. First of all, the wings sort of keep the plane from flipping over at these speeds, and besides jet fuel is really not that flammable.
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Pera From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4708 times:
Well, I am really surprised about 10 pax on this route, which is one of the biggest from Stockholm, but nowadays FlyMe takes some pax from SAS, but I dont know,10 pax seems very low. OYRJA: Well, I dont think all swedes who flies between Stockholm and Skåne(Southern Sweden) want to fly to CPH to come there.
ANX4fishing From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 168 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4642 times:
Leave it up to Aftonbladet (stupid rag) to sensationalize the event, plane flipping over... please... "Unidentified source" probably means they made it up.
Macc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 972 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4579 times:
i am totally freaked by the 12 flights a day.
this sounds quite unusual for europe. at least i dont know of any other connection served that frequently by a single airline.
there must be a hilarious demand on this route, why?
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Pera From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4430 times:
True, FlyMe operates the route aswell, but I guess SAS doesnt wanna go down on frequences on this route, its one of their "old gold routes" its much about honor i guess
FinnWings From Finland, joined Oct 2003, 640 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4400 times:
i am totally freaked by the 12 flights a day.
this sounds quite unusual for europe.
It isn't so rare here in Northern-Europe at all... For example Finnair flies 15 flights a day from Helsinki to Oulu! All flights operated by A320 series or MD-80s... Another good example is HEL-ARN which Finnair flies 11 times a day and I believe SAS/Blue 1 has very similar frequencies on the same route. Quite important trunk routes indeed...
Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15871 posts, RR: 66 Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4266 times:
Let's not forget the trains. Stockholm to Gothenburg is only 3 hours and 15 minutes. From city center to city center this is faster than the plane. And still there are 13 flights a day!
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SAS_A330-300 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4159 times:
The main differece between the rest of Europe and Scandinavia is probably the distances. Northern Europe is not as populated as central and southern Europe is. Which makes any airport quite important.
However, the total flights ARN/BMA-MMX today (SAS, FlyMe, Malmö Aviation) is 27! Way over capacity!
GOT From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4151 times:
Just to add to the numbers:
Stockholm-Gothenburg: 12/d SAS, 6/d FlyMe, 4/d Flynordic and 11/d Malmö Aviation (to BMA), for a total of 33 daily flights on weekdays. On the other hand, everyone seems to be loosing money since the lo-cos entered the market. In addition to this there is rail service (3h) and bus or car might still be an option in some cases (around 5h).
Stockholm-Malmö: 11/d SAS, 5/d Flyme, 9/d Malmö Aviation (to BMA). Here you also have the option of rail service, plus all the flights from CPH a trainride away.
I read some time ago that ARN-GOT was the 4th or 5th busiest route in Europe, I believe, based on pax numbers. Any takers on which routes are busier?
/Robert
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Prebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6019 posts, RR: 55 Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3292 times:
Going from ARN to MMX or CPH?
Well, if your final destination is exactly Malmoe railway station, then CPH might be the better choice.
But a lot of people live in southern Sweden some distance away from Malmoe railway station. And it is so much easier just to take the car and park it cheaply at MMX instead of struggling with taxi or bus to Malmoe railway station.
And then there is the stupid Danish government tax $12/pax on top of all the usual taxes. Why should Swedish domestic pax pay that when they can easily avoid that stupid country?
The incident was a non-event. At 6:30 this morning, taxiing slowly from the gate to the de-icing ramp on wet ice it was blown off into the wet, mud-like grass and got stuck. No damage at all. That's what happens in this terrible Scandinavian winter climate.
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Lufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3075 posts, RR: 10 Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2470 times:
Terrible Scandinavian winter climate?
God, I'll swap you for a bit if you like... you can live in my house in North Queensland, in the tropical great barrier reef region where its like 40 degrees C here every day at the moment and its so hot you can't sleep without the air conditioners humming...and I'll come live in that icy winter.
25 Fritzi: Lufthansa, Dont speak too soon. It isnt just cold here, Its FUC*ING FREEZING. It gets light outside at a few minutes after 8am, and its pitch dark bef
26 HAWK21M: 10 PAX. was it worth operating.What was the return leg load like. About the pic.Its only partly out of the runway.Or was the pic taken after it was to
27 Macc: where is the meaning of more than a flight per hour? why not take a bigger plane??? scratch...
28 Maersk737: "where is the meaning of more than a flight per hour? why not take a bigger plane???" The passengers wants frequencies, and are ready to pay for it Ch
29 GOT: A few years ago (before 9/11) flights operated from GOT to ARN every 20 minutes in the early morning and I believe SAS had a total of 20 daily flights
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Another good example is HEL-ARN which Finnair flies 11 times a day and I believe SAS/Blue 1 has very similar frequencies on the same route. Quite important trunk routes indeed...
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