I had read somewhere that there were 2 different bid packets out there for FL crews, one if MDW happened and one if not. There are several jets arriving in the next couple of months. Can anyone here (perhaps part of a FL crew) shed any light as to where these aircraft will be placed or what was plan B?
CoTXDFW777AA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4869 times:
Groundstop From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 611 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4722 times:
One reason I stayed out of the previous posts about this subject until a decision was made was so nobody could say 'I told you so!'. All I can say is I'm proud of AirTran's effort and intelligence in not trying to get into some sort of bidding war. Like the release stated, our growth plans are solid, with or without MDW. As far as the dual bid packets, Packet B as its called contains the 'non-MDW expansion lines'. By thumbing through, I don't see anything too exciting (granted I'm looking at the 73G packet, not the 717). We will start the additional Florida frequencies out of MDW, SRQ starts this week, 73G service between MCO and BWI commences and LGA is up to the 73G roundtrips per day. With this weeks schedule change, 18-19 flights are added throughout the system.
Travatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2172 posts, RR: 11 Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4698 times:
As exciting as expansion is, I definitely had some reservations about the MDW thing - and in fact had vowed to NOT fly through there for at least the next six months if this went through. However, I will say I am a bit disappointed, but OH WELL!
Flyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4556 times:
That's too bad, I was hoping for FL to get it. I don't think any airport should be dominated by one carrier. Granted WN supposedly won't have direct control over TZ but we'll see.
Flyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1919 posts, RR: 11 Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4494 times:
717-200 - It looks like they've already gone ahead and loaded those flights back into the system. I just did a quick check and it looks like all cities that lost a flight have them back. I looked like in March or something like that. I wondered the same thing too.
Cactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2379 posts, RR: 34 Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4340 times:
N120a
On the same note... ever been to MEM, MSP, DTW, EWR, IAH, DFW, SLC, CVG, JFK, SFO, or MIA?
N1120a From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 80 Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4312 times:
>ever been to MEM, MSP, DTW, EWR, IAH, DFW, SLC, CVG, JFK, SFO, or MIA?<
Most of those I agree with, but JFK??!! Sure, B6 has a lot of flights, but so does everyone else in the world. That would be like saying (though not quite as bad as saying) that WN or UA dominates LAX. Also, SLC has a significant WN presence, so it is more of a 2 carrier thing there. SFO does have a lot of UA, but it also has a lot of international carriers and a lot of service from non-UA domestics
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Cactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2379 posts, RR: 34 Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4241 times:
Ok, JFK wasn't a good example, not even sure why I put it in there....
Quickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4213 times:
"FL at DFW? or WN at DFW?
What can either carrier offer that AA doesn't already at DFW?"
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3960 times:
AirTran should honestly take this to court on anti-competition grounds. Southwest is going to have more of a marketshare @ MDW than Delta does @ ATL, and that will be bad for business.
Byrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2140 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3858 times:
AirTran should honestly take this to court on anti-competition grounds.
So they lost on the open market, now they should go crying to the courts. Whatever.
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Goingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 19 Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3818 times:
AirTran should honestly take this to court on anti-competition grounds. Southwest is going to have more of a marketshare @ MDW than Delta does @ ATL, and that will be bad for business.
No...Airtran should send a "thank you" note to Southwest. It's pretty much been shown that when one airline buys out a "financially distressed" carrier, and takes on all the debt and labor issues that such a move involves, they pretty much find THEMSELVES in the "financially distressed" category. And Southwest could have 100% of the market share in a market, and you'd still pay no more than $299 each way for a ticket. That's something Delta can't claim in Atlanta or AA in Dallas or NWA in MSP.
Quickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3473 times:
I thought they just picked up a 2nd gate from the city.
Groundstop From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 611 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3297 times:
The additional service that has been previously announced will still begin as planned. Also, most markets that lost a frequency or two due to the MDW expansion will gain those flights back.
25 717-200: It was kind of disapointing for us to lose this, but after digesting this news and reading goingboeing's above post,the MDW deal could had been a real
26 Ckfred: I wouldn't say that this deal is done. I've read in the Chicago Tribune that the Justice Dept. was waiting to see who won the bidding If WN won, then
27 JetSOUTHEAST: Terrible.............. Just what we need, SWA domination of MDW like UA and AA over at ORD. IMHO FL is better.
28 Swaluvfa: As a former Southwest employee and now a current Airtran employee, I will say that I have never been more proud to be at AirTran than I am right now.
29 Vanguard737: I know this is mean, but I HAVE to say it....HAHA AirTran737!!!
30 Midway2airtran: I really thought that AirTran would have this wrapped around their finger, but guess Southwest is still full of suprises. I would almost say WN is sta
31 Atmx2000: Does dominance at MDW really matter if there are two marjor airports serving Chicago? Granted ORD is northwest of Chicago and the MDW is southwest, an
32 Goingboeing: They are swaying away from their original roots and the original way they operated. They are sailing in some VERY uncharted and VERY unfamiliar waters
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