Mauriceb From Aruba, joined Aug 2004, 2142 posts, RR: 38 Posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4711 times:
According to ''luchtvaartnieuws.nl'' KLM has orderd 2 more 777's with delivery in januari 2006. Both aircraft will be equiped with EFB, just like all the 9 other 777's in KLM's fleet. According to KLM its a very good moment to order 777's since the financial options on ordering 777's are pretty good, also the market asks for more 777's.
9 777's are active in the KLM fleet with 1 more to come in Januari, in 2006 KLM will have 12 777-200ER's.
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GKirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23769 posts, RR: 68 Reply 2, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4601 times:
I wonder if KLM will consider the Boeing 7E7 in the future
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Mauriceb From Aruba, joined Aug 2004, 2142 posts, RR: 38 Reply 4, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4571 times:
Good news for KLM and Boeing! Any idea whether these will be used to replace existing aircraft or for expansion?
it will replace some 767's, KLM only has orderd 6 A330's and one 777 for replacing the 12 767's , so actually they needed 5 more aircraft to replace the whole 767 fleet, wich are 2 orders made up today, guess KLM will order more A330's 777's in 2006 or 2007 since they are replacing the 767's really slow and so they have time enought to think about the replacement.
I wonder if KLM will consider the Boeing 7E7 in the future
maybe, bot not in the near future, KLM clearly said they won't order a new aircraft type in the next couple of years.
''A.net just like flying, but without the peanuts. doesn't bother me , i never eat peanuts on flights!
Iowa744fan From United States, joined Apr 2004, 924 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3784 times:
Hamlet,
What routes would they be interested in for the -200LR? Are the Jakarta routes nonstop or one stop from Amsterdam? Do they have many other routes that would require that range? The S.A. routes should be fine with their 772ERs.
OldAeroGuy From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2818 posts, RR: 61 Reply 17, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3628 times:
Perhaps KLM could be looking at the -200LR for the increase in cargo capability that would be available for some of their longer -200ER routes.
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ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3610 times:
Perhaps KLM could be looking at the -200LR for the increase in cargo capability that would be available for some of their longer -200ER routes.
Perhaps... just curious as to what routings they'd need that on, because pretty much anywhere they fly (or plan on flying) 772ERs, they can still derive a hefty payload onboard from those aircraft.
Hamlet69 From United States, joined Mar 2000, 2306 posts, RR: 56 Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3607 times:
"What routes would they be interested in for the -200LR?"
Unsure. I wasn't told very many specifics, only that they were under consideration. IMO, they won't be ordered, only the -300ER will be, but you never know. The only thing I could think of at the time was non-stops to Australasia.
"Good stuff Hammy.... but you sure (knowing KL) that they didnt mean -200LRF?"
I think the -200F at KLM is a matter of when, not if. But no, these were specifically -200LR's. I was actually told this quite some time ago (@ March, IIRC), well before the -200F was confirmed.
OldAeroGuy From United States, joined Dec 2004, 2818 posts, RR: 61 Reply 21, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3542 times:
Concordeboy
I don't think the -200ER's can carry much cargo with a full passenger load from Jakarta to Amsterdam and that's the direction that requires the capability.
Airplane design is easy, the difficulty is getting them to fly - Barnes Wallis
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3505 times:
I don't think the -200ER's can carry much cargo with a full passenger load from Jakarta to Amsterdam and that's the direction that requires the capability.
Unless they've got any extensive cargo contracts from the region, that aren't yet significant enough to require a freighter; any compulsory payload restriction on that route with 656K GE90-94B powered birds would be nigh-insignificant at best.
The still air on the route is shorter than even other Euro operations such as CDG-SCL.
Lockheed1011 From United States, joined Dec 2004, 156 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2994 times:
Mauriceb From Aruba, joined Aug 2004, 2142 posts, RR: 38 Reply 25, posted (4 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2634 times:
What is the time frame for replacing the 767s? I fly them from IAD often. What/when will that flight get replaced with A330/T7?
from april 2005 untill august 2007 , they will be replaced with both A330 and 777
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26 The777Man: KL will start A330-200 service to IAD in Sep05 as one of their first destinations for their A330-200. The777Man
27 Acidradio: It's all because of that 742 they have floating away on a barge, gotta replace it with something now
28 AA B777-200: FJWH, I guess you missed out on PH-BQI "Iguacu Falls" that got here two weeks ago. No.10 will probably be PH-BQK and be named "Kilimanjaro Park". BQL
29 HB-IWC: A non-stop AMS-CGK flight would be a prime candidate for the B777LR, as well as a possible nonstop AMS-TPE and a likely return to EZE, with a nonstop
30 ConcordeBoy: A non-stop AMS-CGK flight would be a prime candidate for the B777LR, as well as a possible nonstop AMS-TPE and a likely return to EZE, with a nonstop
31 Hardiwv: PH-BQI "Iguacu Falls" Interesting. I travel frequently WBC AMS-GRU, and GRU was a launchig destination for the 777 back in May. I remember that before
32 AlitaliaMD11: Hey so I am guessing that after IAD gets put with the A330/T7 than comes EWR?? Would KLM ever think of putting the 777/A330/MD11 on the SXM route?
33 Tripple7: Great News. KLM really needs more widebodies. I believe the AF takeover has been really beneficial for KLM at the moment. @ AlitaliaMD11: KLM has oper
34 AA B777-200: Hardi, I don't think that a certain jet flies only to a certain destination. They mix up all the routes and ofcourse try to minimize the turnaround ti
35 Lamedianaranja: BQL and BQM are the most likely registrations, as AA777-200 said. Their names have to be World Heritage Monuments, starting with resp. L and M. So if
36 OHLHD: Are the 767 replaced by the 332? How about the MD-11? How long will the they stay?
37 MauriceB: Are the 767 replaced by the 332? How about the MD-11? How long will the they stay? Yes, the 767's are mostly being replaced with 6 A330's, but also wi
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