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Which US President Flew On Commercial Flight?  
User currently offline1stspotter From Netherlands, joined Jun 1999, 518 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7994 times:

Hi,

For a quiz I am looking for an answer to the following question.

Only one sitting US president has ever travelled by a regularly
scheduled commercial airline flight. Who and when?

Who knows the answer?
Marcel

29 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 962 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7965 times:

Probably Jimmy Carter to save energy dollars  Big grin

User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7938 times:

I believe it was President Nixon, who flew on a United DC-10, in 1972.



User currently offlineShankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1541 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7930 times:

It was Richard Nixon, who on 26 December 1973 flew United DC-10 N1805U operating flight UA55 to LAX


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User currently offlineJetRanger2000 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7927 times:

I also think it was Nixon, on a United flight. I also seem to remember it was a flight to Nevada, but I am not sure.

User currently offline1stspotter From Netherlands, joined Jun 1999, 518 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7910 times:

Many thanks for the quick reply!! I searched the internet for quite some time but could not find the answer.

User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1893 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7908 times:

FDR on a flight to a meeting with the big three at Yalta.


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User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1832 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 7887 times:

President Nixon's flight was indeed IAD-LAX. He was trying to demonstrate the importance of saving energy. He had AF1 fly out empty to pick him up, wasting a lot more energy than he would have if he had taken AF1 to begin with.

President Franklin Roosevelt made at least one flight on a Pan Am Clipper. I'm pretty certain that he went to North Africa to meet with Winston Churchill during WWII. He may have made other flights as well.







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User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7756 times:

Clinton allegedly flew on a US Shuttle flight... but he and entourage were the only passengers.

User currently offlineAMS From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7742 times:

Clinton also flew Delta between Little Rock and Atlanta at some point.

Regards,
AMS


User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7684 times:

If Clinton and his entourage were the only pax, it kind of defeats the purpose of him flying on a regularly scheduled flight to begin with.

User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7612 times:

Roosevelt's flights were not regularly scheduled however....

User currently offlineDbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7480 times:

So if the President were to fly on a regularly scheduled flight, would he have to go through security like all the other passengers. Also, if the president flies to another country in Air Force One, does he have to go through customs, and have a passport with him?

User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7471 times:

Heads of state do not have passports, nor likely do other high officials. They land at military bases or at regular airports and go to a VIP zone. The rest have diplomatic passports and go through the diplomatic line at security or to the head of any line if there is no special one. Children of diplomats often carry diplomatic passports as well as the spouse, but they are usually "attached" to whomever is the diplomat. This can create a boatload of problems at immigration if the child is traveling alone, or even if it is the spouse without the diplomat.......

User currently offlineTrident3 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1013 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7439 times:

However if they are flying on a scheduled flight they still have to be checked in and issued with a boarding card. Iremember seeing an episode of Airport that showed what happened when the Queen travelled to New Zealand on an Air New Zealand scheduled flight. The station manager went to a check in desk and processed details for them and produced boarding cards and tickets for Mr & Mrs Windsor travelling in seats 1a & 1b . He explained that they had to use that title as the system would not accept Her Majesty as a title!


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User currently offlineJonty From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7271 times:

does the queen have a passport or since she is head of state of Newzeland does she not need one?

User currently offlinePilotGirl From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7187 times:

The Queen checks in (on Air NZ) as Mrs Weir I believe, not Mrs Windsor. Not sure why they selected that particular fake name.

User currently offlineDcbat2072 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7080 times:

Bill Clinton does take the USAirways Shuttle, but only as a former President. He always traveled on Air Force One as President.

User currently offlineSpark From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6819 times:

Afay1
"Children of diplomats often carry diplomatic passports as well as the spouse, but they are usually "attached" to whomever is the diplomat. This can create a boatload of problems at immigration if the child is traveling alone, or even if it is the spouse without the diplomat....."
Not that this has anything to do with the subject, but dependents of Diplomats do have their own diplomatic (BLACK in USA) passports, which are valid while they are in the Diplomatic service. They also have diplomatic immunity, and aren't supposed to be searched by customs.
From what I've heard from my friends who were diplomats, most countries are pretty good about following this (if you travel with someone with a black passport you tend to fly through customs). However I had a friend who had a Chilean Diplomatic Passport and US Customs didn't seem to understand the protocol.


User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2911 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6545 times:

Nixon flew on a United Airlines Dc-10 on December 26,1973 as part to show the administrations side on the the energy crisis that was happening at the time.Also to help his tarnished image after watergate .The plane that he flew on was eventually scrapped.


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User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 6439 times:

Hi DCbat, thank you for your input regarding Clinton and the Shuttle flight. I am so happy you have an opinion in this matter. However, in fact Clinton *did* ride the Shuttle while in office, and its call sign was AF1 during that flight. Have a nice day.

User currently offlineAERoc From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6259 times:

I have a question and sorry if this was already mentioned, but if the current president was Nixon as some of you are saying, that flew on a UA DC10 from IAD-LAX flight55. In fact any plane the current president is on becomes AF1 right, so would that still count as a regularly scheduled flight because the flight would not be allowed to have the United flight number but would have to be called AF1?

User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6449 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6070 times:

It would not become AF1 because it is not an Air Force aircraft. When he flies the helicopter it is Marine 1. It might be called commercial 1, but I don't know.

User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3803 posts, RR: 29
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5943 times:

President Nixon's flight was indeed IAD-LAX. He was trying to demonstrate the importance of saving energy. He had AF1 fly out empty to pick him up, wasting a lot more energy than he would have if he had taken AF1 to begin with.

Thank you for pointing out this fact of which I had not previously been aware. I rather well recall watching the big story the evening network news shows made of the event on the day it happened.

It always seemed, to me, that President Nixon's transcon flight on United was nothing more than typical opportunistic photo op and definitely all about style and nothing about substance. (i.e. giving an appearance of saving energy but in reality doing nothing at all to conserve energy). My suspicion has finally been confirmed. And for all these years, my question "how did he return to Washington DC?" had remained unanswered -- it has finally been answered, even though my question has been "out of sight out of mind" for about 30.9 years of the 31 years that have passed since Nixon's highly publicized flight on United.


User currently offlineLiquid From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5658 times:

"In fact any plane the current president is on becomes AF1 right, so would that still count as a regularly scheduled flight because the flight would not be allowed to have the United flight number but would have to be called AF1?"

"It would not become AF1 because it is not an Air Force aircraft. When he flies the helicopter it is Marine 1. It might be called commercial 1, but I don't know."

Any non military aircraft with the President on it is called "Civilian One". The flight would still be a regularily scheduled flight with the same flight number, the CALLSIGN is "civilian one" not the flight number, those are very different.



-Liquid
25 Perspicax : It would not become AF1 because it is not an Air Force aircraft. When he flies the helicopter it is Marine 1. It might be called commercial 1, but I d
26 Bostonguy : Queen Elizabeth does not have a passport. "As a British Passport is issued in the name of Her Majesty, it is unnecessary for The Queen to possess one.
27 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : >>>Clinton allegedly flew on a US Shuttle flight... but he and entourage were the only passengers. Nope, it was Al Gore, while being sitting Vice Pres
28 Zonky : Schroder is the head of government, not state, but i presume you refer to him as 'high official(s)'.
29 FLY777UAL : Funny enough, my mom has a gold pen, signed by and given to her from President Nixon, after working that flight. Sitting in a random brown case doing
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