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Big Green Plane At LHR  
User currently offlineUnattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2328 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 7741 times:

I visited the UK a few years ago and I noticed a giant green plane on the ramp at the airport seen here in the background:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/706049/L/

Does anyone have a picture of it and does anyone know its purpose? Im assuming it is for fire/hijack rescue. Can anyone confirm or dispute this?

Thanks, errr... Cheers!


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User currently offlineDc8jet From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 7687 times:

I saw a photo of it in a magazine but I can't remember which one. It is used
for fire and rescue training.


User currently offlineAerlingus330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 7675 times:

Yor right, its to train fire fighters, but its not used for hijackings...Airlines lend the police real planes for these exercises.

aerlingus330



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User currently offlineUnattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7604 times:

That is what I thought initially, but normaly, ARFF will locate the practice aircraft in a remote location of the airfield. It looks like the big green DC10/747 is located close to a couple of hangars. hmmm...


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User currently offlineStarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7542 times:

Just from the structure it looks like a purpose-built training device and not an actual aircraft. I think real planes make poor simulators because after a few fires the aircraft is too badly damaged to be of real use. Hence the simulator which can withstand normal training usage.


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User currently offlineUnattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 7516 times:

Indeed, it actually has 5 engine (compartments), four under the wing and one at the tail. And your right, it wouldn't be cost affective to turn a new plane into ash everytime the fire department trains a new group of cadets.


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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 7440 times:

I saw an episode of "Airport" on Discovery Wings where they used a plane mock-up like that to practice firefighting. The mock-up looked almost exactly like the one in the picture, so I'm pretty certain that is what it is. Also, it is probably next to the hangers because that is probably where they put it when it is not being used for drills.


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User currently offlineNtspelich From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 7367 times:

Airlines lend the police real planes for these exercises.

And then sometimes the police forget to check that there's no live ammo left on the ramp.  Sad I was at DAL for some training and when walking around one of our old 732's, which the Dallas PD use for hostage training, and we found at least two live "paint bullets" (not paint balls, but live shells with a paint tip) just laying around the ramp. Good thing that it was over on our "practice" ramp...

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User currently offlineTrident3 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1013 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 7277 times:

The plane in question is indeed a fire service trainer , but its positioning at the service area is more to do with necessity than anythig else. The simulator is fixed down and cannot be moved because it runs on natural gas rather than aviation fuel, this means that how the fire spreads can be controlled remotely by an instructor, allowing for things like flashovers etc. It also means that if a team get into severe difficulties it can be shut dovn instantly. Inside the sim is fitted with doors, seats ,a staircase and galleys just like a real plane although for reasons of durability everytrhing is made from sheet steel. I belive they have, or will be installing a simulator like this at LGW.


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User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5992 times:

There is one at Gatwick, next to the taxiway towards 8R. It isn't the same colour and doesn't stand out as much. In fact, at first i thought it was a DC-10 that had been scrapped, as it kinda blends in the with the background.

-Stephen


User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5204 times:

I also saw one at Stansted this past July. Pretty eye-catching, but figured it was for training of some sort.

User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17040 posts, RR: 66
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5173 times:

That is what I thought initially, but normaly, ARFF will locate the practice aircraft in a remote location of the airfield. It looks like the big green DC10/747 is located close to a couple of hangars. hmmm...

There aren't really any remote areas at LHR. Anything close to the edges would be near a road/residential/office area. Not a good place for billowing smoke  Big grin



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User currently offlineB-HOP From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2000, 637 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

There is an exact copy in Chek lap kok near the cargo ramp, it is also used for training.

kev



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User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2895 times:

It cost six million to build.

That trainer can simulate any conceivable emergency with two to four engined aircraft, single or double deck passenger accomodation. It is also fitted with fuel delivery systems for that purpose. There is also a fair amount of fire-hardened equipment inside to assess the performance of the fire fighters such as infra-red and heatseeking cameras as well as sound equipment.

It is a very sophisticated tool and worth every penny.


User currently offlineBENNETT123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7613 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2699 times:


There is something very similar at AMS.


User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

Hey


they have one at LAX, and for about 15 minutes I was convinced it was a Roayal Jordainain L-1011!!



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