Unattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2240 posts, RR: 1 Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6816 times:
I visited the UK a few years ago and I noticed a giant green plane on the ramp at the airport seen here in the background:
Dc8jet From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 321 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6762 times:
I saw a photo of it in a magazine but I can't remember which one. It is used
for fire and rescue training.
Unattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2240 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6679 times:
That is what I thought initially, but normaly, ARFF will locate the practice aircraft in a remote location of the airfield. It looks like the big green DC10/747 is located close to a couple of hangars. hmmm...
Starrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1081 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6617 times:
Just from the structure it looks like a purpose-built training device and not an actual aircraft. I think real planes make poor simulators because after a few fires the aircraft is too badly damaged to be of real use. Hence the simulator which can withstand normal training usage.
Unattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2240 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6591 times:
Indeed, it actually has 5 engine (compartments), four under the wing and one at the tail. And your right, it wouldn't be cost affective to turn a new plane into ash everytime the fire department trains a new group of cadets.
Newark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 33 Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6515 times:
I saw an episode of "Airport" on Discovery Wings where they used a plane mock-up like that to practice firefighting. The mock-up looked almost exactly like the one in the picture, so I'm pretty certain that is what it is. Also, it is probably next to the hangers because that is probably where they put it when it is not being used for drills.
Ntspelich From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 764 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6442 times:
Airlines lend the police real planes for these exercises.
And then sometimes the police forget to check that there's no live ammo left on the ramp. I was at DAL for some training and when walking around one of our old 732's, which the Dallas PD use for hostage training, and we found at least two live "paint bullets" (not paint balls, but live shells with a paint tip) just laying around the ramp. Good thing that it was over on our "practice" ramp...
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Trident3 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1012 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6352 times:
The plane in question is indeed a fire service trainer , but its positioning at the service area is more to do with necessity than anythig else. The simulator is fixed down and cannot be moved because it runs on natural gas rather than aviation fuel, this means that how the fire spreads can be controlled remotely by an instructor, allowing for things like flashovers etc. It also means that if a team get into severe difficulties it can be shut dovn instantly. Inside the sim is fitted with doors, seats ,a staircase and galleys just like a real plane although for reasons of durability everytrhing is made from sheet steel. I belive they have, or will be installing a simulator like this at LGW.
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Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4096 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5067 times:
There is one at Gatwick, next to the taxiway towards 8R. It isn't the same colour and doesn't stand out as much. In fact, at first i thought it was a DC-10 that had been scrapped, as it kinda blends in the with the background.
Starlionblue From Hong Kong, joined Feb 2004, 15872 posts, RR: 66 Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4248 times:
That is what I thought initially, but normaly, ARFF will locate the practice aircraft in a remote location of the airfield. It looks like the big green DC10/747 is located close to a couple of hangars. hmmm...
There aren't really any remote areas at LHR. Anything close to the edges would be near a road/residential/office area. Not a good place for billowing smoke
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Whitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1970 times:
It cost six million to build.
That trainer can simulate any conceivable emergency with two to four engined aircraft, single or double deck passenger accomodation. It is also fitted with fuel delivery systems for that purpose. There is also a fair amount of fire-hardened equipment inside to assess the performance of the fire fighters such as infra-red and heatseeking cameras as well as sound equipment.
It is a very sophisticated tool and worth every penny.
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I was at DAL for some training and when walking around one of our old 732's, which the Dallas PD use for hostage training, and we found at least two live "paint bullets" (not paint balls, but live shells with a paint tip) just laying around the ramp. Good thing that it was over on our "practice" ramp...
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