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What Is The Most Powerful Widebody Takeoff?  
User currently online747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3618 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11046 times:

Hello I been away for few mouths, but I back now.

My question is what is the most powerful takeoff of a widebody anybody ever seen.
For me I have to say

1 Air New Zealand Boeing 747 200 from LAX-ACK.

2 AOM DC10 30 from LAX-Paris.

4 Any 747 400 on the LAX-SYD route.

5 LTU L1011 500 LAX- Germany.

6 any 767 300 on the LAX-LHR route.

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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10937 times:

7: Antonov An-225

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User currently offlineAerlingus330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10922 times:

For me It would have to be An A330-300, I was in one and the sound of them two huge RollsRoyce Engines firing you to take off speed is magnificent.

Ive also seen one at Dublin Airport taking off and the sound from the outside is hard to beat.


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User currently offlineL.1011 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2209 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10881 times:

Well the 757 wins any takeoff power race, but since it isn't a widebody, I'd say an empty 777-200LR (and probably a decently loaded one) would easily blow anything else, including the big Buses, any especially 747s out of the water. The 747 has never "rocketed" off the runway, unless it's an empty freighter. Regardless of the fact that the 747 Advanced will likely feature more composites (lower empty weight) and more powerful engines, MTOW will likely be significantly higher, negating any increased takeoff force except in an empty airplane.

User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10871 times:

This is kind of an odd question. How does one define "most powerful takeoff?"

By the way, Aer Lingus A330 are equipped with General Electric CF6 engines and not Rolls Royce.


User currently online747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3618 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10799 times:

Ok when I mean most powerful takeoff I mean the aircraft is noisy at full power. Here a example the Air New Zealand 747 200 and DC10 30 or any 747 400 on the LAX-SYD route would rock anything that is near it.

User currently offlineTW741 From Liechtenstein, joined Sep 2004, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10767 times:

when I mean most powerful takeoff I mean the aircraft is noisy at full power

any kind of L-1011 is a real soundmachine  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


edit: unfortunately you limited the post to "widebody" - the real "full-sound-takeoffs" have been performed by the Caravelle, BAC-1-11, B737-100 and -200, the B707, the DC8's, not to forget the DC9-51, ....

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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6485 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 10761 times:

If noise is the only metric, there are some old piston-engined aircraft that could meet your needs.  Big grin


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User currently offlineJpetekYXMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 4389 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10630 times:

Oh man i know what you mean about that NZ 742. When i flew LAX-AKL as a young lad back in '95, QF had mechanical problems so we took on as many passengers as we could. A fully loaded 742, wow, that was really something as my first 747 flight.


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User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5162 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10600 times:

Noise -- I read a story from a guy who said that the (non-widebody) Concorde often lined up at Heathrow across the field from his office right as he and his co-workers were returning from lunch. They had some kind of card-key entrance system at the door. If they happened to notice the pointy nose turning the corner and swinging into position while they were outside, there was always a mad dash for the door and massive fumbling to get the key into the slot, because they knew that there would be a bowel-shaking, ear-melting, earthquake-like-rumbling of a takeoff coming down the runway in a matter of seconds -- like nothing else he ever heard at Heathrow.

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10595 times:

I would think that the most powerful commercial plane (wide or narrow-body) take-off would have been the Concorde. Now THOSE were powerful engines!!


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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6858 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10544 times:

Try:
Best climb I've seen...
SQ A345 taking off 07L from CGK... airborne immediate right turn to heading 230... By the time turn completed... 12,000ft!

shortest T/O
JAL B744 taking off from CGK for Bali, rotation after less than 1200m !

Heaviest looking T/O
Saudia 743 CGK-JED... used 3000m roll 07L, and barely climbed. <2000ft by the time turn ended the right turn to 230 heading.

Any SQ long haul 744/A343(when it was there) take off Big grin Derating to the extreme??? Big grin

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User currently offlineBuckieboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 10528 times:

wjcandee

I agree I've been in LHR Hertz office when signaled to stop talking which I thought at the time a bit rude, then signalled to turn round, back to the desk to watch concorde land. Incredible!

On topic, if the question has swiched to noise, then PIA classic style 747s leaving MAN takes some beating in my experience. These aircraft could be even more noisy at other airports.

Cheers

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User currently offlineKanebear From United States of America, joined May 2002, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 10294 times:

Most forceful takeoff I've been on was on a very empty 772 ORD-DFW last winter. It was pretty clear the captain was having a bit of fun, and there was lots of cold clear air to chew on  Smile I can't ever remember quite being thrown back in my seat like that, especially not on such a big BIG beast.

As far as noise? Nothing today compares to the age when noise issues weren't a concern, gas was cheap and emissions weren't even a thought. The old 732s, 707s, DC-8s, DC-9s... they made one hell of a racket. Now everything has been hushkitted and modified and quieted down. I appreciate the peace but do sometimes miss the excitement of an unmuffled engine blasting away on takeoff.


User currently offlineAirWales From UK - Wales, joined Oct 2004, 453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 10219 times:

Whilst at LHR watching the take offs - nothing shakes the ground like a Varig MD11 powering back home to Brazil.

User currently offlineRobK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 3947 posts, RR: 18
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 10196 times:

Being a Leeds/Bradford resident, the noisiest I've ever experienced from base 3 DME out from the rwy 32 touch down were the Dan Air 1-11's, RAF VC10's and most annoyingly, the old Britannia B732's, all departing off rwy 14.  Angry

They used to turn a sharp right for Pole Hill at around 2 DME so we'd get the noise for agggggggggggggggggggggggges as they climbed away from us.

Gimme the quiet and slow climbing Capital SD360's back any day  Wink/being sarcastic

Cheers,

Rob K  Big grin


User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1719 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9853 times:

This thread brings back the memory of Concorde lifting up just in front of T4's huge windows at LHR... Everything was vibrating, when the wheels left the ground; such a gut feeling! I had the feeling everybody couldn't help but watch in awe...

User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4512 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 9520 times:

fully loaded A340-300 with derated takeoff  Big grin

actually i'll bet that an empty 747SP ferry would be quite powerful

from my own experience, Concorde takeoff (not a widebody) would have to take the cake. i actually videoed our takeoffs and its great to hear the noise building.

i'll never forget the feeling of taxiing to the runway. the pilot (adrian thompson) spooled up the engines to get on the runway and we were thrust into our seats for a couple of seconds until he idled them again.

it was the equivalent of blipping the throttle of a Mk II GTI in first gear at 3000rpm...beautiful.



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2997 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9335 times:

The most powerful-feeling takeoff that I have experienced (including the Concorde!) was on a lightly-loaded Garuda MD-11 from DPS bound for CGK, then HKG. It was almost scary how that thing accelerated. I definitely got the impression that the pilots were having a bit of fun with their then-new "toy."

Here is that very plane, landing at Kai Tak just as we did that day:

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User currently offlineGearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9145 times:

The best that I experienced was an old 747-100 on a maintenance test flight out of Dublin. There were 7 people on board total, only about 25 tons of fuel, no seats, no washrooms and no galleys. We did an intersection take-off at full power. It was awesome fun. Alas, EI-BED the aircraft in question lies derelict in the boneyard. RIP.

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User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9072 times:

The original V-1101 VC-10 was the most powerful takeoff I've ever seen, because it was built for short takeoff performance! The VC-10 was designed for hot and high airfields with bags of power. Thrust to weight is probably more than the 757.

I regularly see Continental 772ERs take off fully loaded, and they make short work of the takeoff roll. So that's one powerful bird.

Well the 757 wins any takeoff power race, but since it isn't a widebody, I'd say an empty 777-200LR

Except that it hasn't even been built yet, never mind flown!

If you meant the 773ER then I would think a full power takeoff would be explosive without fuel and payload.

The A300 is also a good short field performer as it was designed for just that sort of operation, without heavy fuel loads for intra-Europe operation.


User currently offlineCOEWR2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 607 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8947 times:

I like the way a 767-400ER take off feels.


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User currently offlineWhitehatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8939 times:

I like the way a 767-400ER take off feels.

The takeoff feels wonderful, as it replaces the terror of thinking you are about to hit the end of the runway and plow into the lights..... Nuts


User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8928 times:
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All my t/o's on 772s have been pretty powerful, and Im sure they were relatively full laden with fuel as they were all transatlantic ops...

The last 763 I was on, BWI-LHR was pretty powerful too, the best part was after our left turn out of the airfield, I could see the airport....only it was WAYYYYY down below me. Excellent performance on T/O.

All my 744 flights have had long take off rolls.... so I cant say that they were very powerful. BUT, I love watching the heavy wing & winglet move up and down when taking off.... after we gain speed / altitude it seems to stiffen up, but on T/O the whole wing moves up and down....gotta love it  Smile  Smile

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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1884 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 8802 times:

When it comes to the noise, nothing beats old Tu-134A on takeoff...


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25 TokyoNarita : Delta's flight 55 takeoff by MD-11 ATL-NRT. Of course from the past. TokyoNarita.
26 BOEING747400 : From my experience, the KE 773 had the most powerful take-off because of the extremely high power-weight ratio. I was on it 2 years ago from Seoul to
27 Post contains images Aidan : I think is the TITAN IV, and from what I read this baddass is more powerfull than the SaturnV that carried the Appolo mission Or the one that carried
28 Sfoerik : I would have to say the most powerful and exciting take off I have experienced was when I flew LAX - SYD on Qantas. It was a 747-400 heavily loaded as
29 Sovietjet : Go to SVO and watch a Tu-134 or Tu-154B-2 take off. Now you'll know what noise is...
30 Post contains images PillowTester : Travelling from Chicago to Seattle often seated us in scantly filled United DC-10s. I loved flying those out of ORD. Seemed over powered. it was the e
31 Post contains links and images Aa777jr : ever AF 747 or 340 take off from SXM! View Large View MediumPhoto © Francisco José Jurado Ariza View Large View MediumPhoto © Sam Chui Regards,
32 IL76TD : In terms of noise, you will NOT beat a fully loaded IL-76TD rocketing down the runway with full flaps set.
33 Qantasclub : My wife..................................
34 MasseyBrown : They're not widebodies, but just about any military jet with an afterburner is impressive, both aurally and visually.
35 HAWK21M : My wife.................................. That was funny. On the serious side.I think a B772 Take off Light would be Powerful Alternately an AN225. Fu
36 Wdleiser : My dad was just tellin me, about UAL's first 744, it was the captains first flight on the aircraft, and was tellin the passengers that they were takin
37 BEG2IAH : Well, CO B772/ER after sitting on an IAH taxiway for more than 3 hours due to some stormy weather. We had several crews on board (God knows how many p
38 AirxLiban : it was the equivalent of blipping the throttle of a Mk II GTI in first gear at 3000rpm...beautiful. Old Volkswagons don't really churn up thoughts of
39 Post contains links and images CRFLY : Well... every t/o on American's A300-600R is awesome... that Airbus sounds like a blender and takes off like a rocket (not like the 75' but close)...
40 M404 : Actually, though not his original question but by his interpretation of Powerful as related to noise then it would to anything not meeting todays nois
41 Dca727fan : I would throw in a very lightly loaded 744. Flew SAA from CPT-FLL-ATL in March 2001. We had a crew change and passenger debarkment in FLL. As soon as
42 Post contains images Airportugal310 : Whitehatter: That was a funny comment about the 767-400ER, which I had the pleasure of flying in August IAH-AMS. I'd say an empty 777-200LR (and proba
43 Muttley35 : I know I've gone off at a tangent but for sheer engine noise during takeoff you can't beat the Rockwell B1 Lancer.
44 JpetekYXMD80 : ever AF 747 or 340 take off from SXM! Wow, could this be the first ever mention of the A340-300 in a most powerful thread?!? It sure needs to use all
45 Aussie747 : It would have to be a 747-300 run I was on QF doing the JNB-PER-SYD run back in Jan 1998. We were supposed to leave at 4.35 pm. However due to the pla
46 N62NA : Well... every t/o on American's A300-600R is awesome... that Airbus sounds like a blender and takes off like a rocket (not like the 75' but close)...
47 Aa777jr : I've seen at least 10 videos of take offs at SXM with AF B747 and A340 and they run their engines up to almost full throttle and let it go. People are
48 747400sp : Aa777jr Could you please post some of these videos. Thank You
49 Ramerinianair : I would have to say that the 777 with almost 100,000 lbs. of thrust per engine is the best take-off for me!!! To bad I only flew it JFK-LHR. SR
50 Stirling : A scientific method needs to be agreed upon to weed out subjective bias. Unfortunately, gathering the data to fill into the formula might be tedious a
51 Post contains images AeroWesty : Coming out of SXM, Corsair's 743s have the 744s and 343s beat for power/sound hands down. Our hotel was on Simpson Bay lagoon, and being underneath th
52 Post contains images GKirk : A300s, A310s and B742s
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