RichardBHX From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 111 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3755 times:
I know that American Airlines served BHX pre-9/11 with 767's to Chicago I think, but what i was wondering is whether you think they will return soon? The reason i ask is that Manchester is not that much larger than Birmingham, and that is served to both Boston and Chicago, and the fact that Continental do a double-daily to New York would suggest that there is demand there. Would a 757 have the range?
It should would help my dad, which would be enough reason to brink back service...:P
Aa767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2417 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3722 times:
I hope we do bring it back. ORD-BHX, with a 757, is not going to work. So...I Am thinking the 763, will be the winner here. Just don't know if AA, wants to venture back into BHX? Maybe, JFK-BHX on a 757.
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7642 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3693 times:
Unfortunatley, BHX is too close to LHR: it seems that the business travellers will vote with their cars and go to LHR (I did read on the BHX website when AA pulled out that one of company directors who used the service would now be dreading the LHR experience...unless he was based between Birmingham and London, I wonder why he never thought of using the MAN service instead?)
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1073 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3648 times:
I agree with the above post. BHX is way close to LHR. Why doesn't AA go farther into Europe and hit up VIE or ATH?
I'd wonder if the O/D traffic is there.....
ORD-BHX, with a 757, is not going to work. So...I Am thinking the 763, will be the winner here.
The 757 could make the east-bound trip, but would cut it close on the west-bound leg. IMO, the best solution would be BOS/JFK-BHX with the 757. AA has been building a small transatlantic focus city out of BOS, this might be another city pair to open up.
VS4ever From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 275 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3521 times:
BHX too close to LHR???? Need to look at a map me thinks. It's 100 miles, In normal traffic, it's at least 90 minutes, in weekday traffic, more like 2-3 hours. Believe, I know, I used to live and work near BHX. It sucks big time having done it on many occasions.
There are a lot of people in the Midlands who hate having to go to LHR all the time, the traffic sucks, the airport can be a nightmare and when you are supposed to be at the airport 3 hours before, it makes a late morning departure, a very early morning start!, not fun!
As Wayne's World once said "If you book them, they will come!", I firmly believe that there is a market in the Midlands to support a limited number of flights to the US. I have been on that flight out of BHX and I remember at the time it being pretty full, so I would say there was a market. Doesn't necessarily have to be daily? Most people coming over are here for at least a couple of days, so I would go with 4 weekly (schedules permitting), Saturday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday (Saturday to arrive on Sunday, ready for Monday meetings)
I used to work for Caterpillar (Head Office in Peoria, IL) and they have a bunch of places across the Midlands (Leicester and Peterbrough to name but 2), but their guys have to fly from ORD via LHR, which makes no sense, particularly when they want to come into work straight off the flight. So if you ask me, if there is a market, I say yes. We just need someone to give it another go.
Would be nice to see another carrier return to BHX.
Arsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3479 times:
BHX is over 100 miles away from LHR, that is a 2 hour car journey without heavy traffic, even more when you consider that you have to juggle the spaghetti junction and the M25 before connecting onto a transatlantic flight.
Ckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5588 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3400 times:
My parents once attended a convention in Birmingham. Living in Chicago, the AA flight from ORD was quite convenient.
I think part of the problem is that ORD-BHX was flown with a 3-class 767-200ER. If memory serves me correctly, the morning 767 out of SFO was usually sent on to BHX.
My guess is that a 2-class 767-300ER has too many seats to fill. Considering that AA still has a few 767-200ERs in the desert, it would make sense to pull those, reconfigure to 2-class cabins, and put them on some thinner routes, such as ORD-BHX.
Muttley35 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3299 times:
If memory serves me correctly the AA service from BHX to ORD, went seasonal before ceasing altogether.I can only suspect the demand just doesn't warrant AA operating this route, though having flown this route a number of times in the past PAX numbers seemed fairly high to me.
As for being too local to LHR sorry can't see it, as a number of people have already mentioned the journey to LHR from Birmingham is not the best.Also who in their right mind would choose LHR over BHX for ease of travel ?
From a selfish point of view if AA or any other carrier for that matter choose to operate BHX -ORD ,BHX-PDX and BHX-DFW I would be very grateful