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NetJets Fleet Count  
User currently offlineDash 80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 309 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5756 times:

Does anyone know how many aircraft are in the NetJets fleet?

Steve


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User currently offlineType-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4940 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5696 times:

I don't know the number, but I believe it's a lot. It seems I usually see several at most major airports I fly into. They have the registrations that end in "QS". I have seen four of five on the ground at HOU at one time on more than just a few occasions.


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User currently offlineOptionsCLE From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5689 times:

I know that Flight Options is around 200 and that it is second to Net Jets. I believe EJA is around 300 or more but I don't have any sources to back that up. You could try searching the FAA registration database for all of the Planes registered to Executive Jet Aviation, but there are some QS and EJ tail numbers registered to Executive Jet Management too I think so it would just give you a ballpark figure. Sorry I couldn't be of more help,

-Andrew


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5679 times:

Having more than any of their competitors, they would be wise to put the number on their website.

User currently offlineOptionsCLE From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5659 times:

I just looked at the Flight Options website and they claim to have "over 215 aircraft" so NetJets would be higher than this figure. Again, I'm guessing somewhere in the 300-350 range in their US opperation alone.

-Andrew


User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5614 times:

Any reason why the European operation uses aircraft mostly registered in Portugal?

Just curious...



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User currently offlineDash 80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 309 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5581 times:

Yeah I tried the FAA registration database but the problem is many of their aircraft are not registered to Executive Jet Aviation or NetJets but to holding companies and banks. Plus, there are many, as Diesel1 pointed out, that are registered in different countries.

Steve



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User currently offlineQwerty From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 383 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5518 times:

Executive Jet Aviation or NetJets but to holding companies and banks

NetJets is part of Berkshire Hathaway and they would not need outside financing, and they have multi billions in cash on hand. Berkshire did not break out number of planes in their latest ('03) Annual Report. I do not believe they ever have given numbers, except for commenting on purchase volume. Fractionals buys about 70-80% of all buz jets annually and NetJets is much bigger than any other player. Also, many of FlightOptions planes were purchased "used". I think NetJets owns a very decent percentage of Citation Xs produced.

I think the best tactic is to look at registrations, and I am not good at that. FYI, "QS" tails stand for Quality Service, at least that's what a NetJets Marketing person told me.


User currently offlineNightflier From United States of America, joined May 2004, 284 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5432 times:

Wish I could help on this one but I am not sure so I wont say. But I agree with Qwerty the QS on the tail is a good sighn that it is NetJets, all of there planes tail #s end in QS.  Big thumbs up


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User currently offlineDash 80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 309 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5414 times:

I was confused. My mistake. My error came in looking up NetJets tail numbers like N806QS which will come back to Happy Beaner LLC. However, down in other registered owners it says NetJets Sales, among several other things. http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm I thought Happy Beaner LLC may have been a Holding Company. What it does mean I'm not sure.

Looking up the registrations by owner name NetJets brings up 762 records. However, many of those are simply purchased registrations with no aircraft yet.http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm

That's why I was wondering if there was an official aircraft count.


Steve




...where the rubber hits the runway...
User currently offlineFA4B6 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days ago) and read 5388 times:

Anyone know what its like to work for them as a pilot or F/A?

User currently offlineCmhsrq From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 990 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5324 times:

Good questions. Netjets is a large company with Multiple divisions all over the world, total over all there are more then 500 aircraft in the fleet. Netjets USA which operates the QS tails, of which they're two divisions. Netjets Aviation and Netjets International. Netjets Aviation is based here in CMH. NJI is based in the Hilton Head SC area. Netjets Europe which operates CS***, registered in Portugal because they are based in Lisbon. Netjets Middle East, is based in Jeddah. Executive Jet management, based at LUK. NJA also operates it's own flight school for it's employees. They have 3 new 172's. In addition to that there are 3 KingAirs that are used to move executives around the country if needed. Not sure what it's like to be a pilot or FA though. They have okay pay with great benefits. I do know that. Any other questions??


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User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1979 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5315 times:

Qwerty,

Interesting what the NetJets marketing person told you, but the original intent of the QS was Quarter Shares...It's probably evolved into Quality Service though...

Jeffrey



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User currently offlineQwerty From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 383 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5289 times:

A340,

That would make sense. When Santulli (sp? too lazy to look up correct spelling) was first doing the math on fractional, I bet shares were a quarter. That's pretty cool. Very interesting.

I was confused. My mistake. My error came in looking up NetJets tail numbers like N806QS which will come back to Happy Beaner LLC. However, down in other registered owners it says NetJets Sales, among several other things

I think a lot of that is plane resell and the new owner just doesn't change the registration. Perhaps NetJets might want to make that part of a sales agreement, since they have kind of branded QS tails, at least for people in the know.


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