Zvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 65 Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2256 times:
I couldn't find the article, but this is surely in preparation for joining Star Alliance to take advantage of SA)">UA's hub at IAD. Expect to see SA)">UA metal into IAD tagged with SA codeshare flight numbers.
At502B From South Africa, joined Dec 2004, 347 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2104 times:
I can't wait for them to fly from IAD-JNB- Makes it a lot easier for me to accrue Star Alliance miles instead of having to go through FRA.
Now all they need is more room in Economy and I'll be really happy! Any word on if they will ever have an economy plus(SAA) on their Airbus?
FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2902 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1994 times:
I would imagine that the same arrangement with the ATL flights will apply to the IAD flights once they begin.
Actually, with IAD they might be able to operate like the JFK flights (and formerly the ATL flights, with the 744), i.e., nonstop to JNB but tech stop on the return--at least during the northern winter. IAD is 300 miles closer to JNB than ATL is, and I believe the airport is at a slightly lower elevation, so that might make enough of a difference.
Then again, with the disappointing performance of the A346, who knows. I'm not trying to start an A v. B debate here, and I have nothing against Airbus in general--they build many excellent aircraft. But it seems a shame to me that the new pride of the SAA fleet hasn't been able to match the performance of the aircraft it has replaced on these routes. Just my two cents.
FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2902 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1771 times:
Please don't say anything about stuff you don't know anything about.
Get off your high horse for a minute and reread what I wrote. Where did I claim to know anything about the management decisions of SAA, or about cargo capabilities of the A340 vs. the 747?
My feeble mind does know a few things, though. For example, that (a) the 747s were going nonstop for years, (b) now the A346 can't, (c) from a passenger's perspective, that middle-of-the-night fuel stop at Sal Island is not fun, and (d) doing it in both directions is even worse.
So, no matter how much money they make from cargo (which generally doesn't mind tech stops, I might add), it doesn't change the fact that this is a setback in passenger comfort and convenience, and given the fanfare with which SAA advertised their new A346 (they even hinted at one point that it would operate nonstop in BOTH directions!), I think it's fair to call this at least a bit "disappointing." That's all--nothing more, nothing less.
Now, back to the original topic. In particular, I am very interested to know if SAA is planning to fly nonstop from IAD to JNB. If not, would they operate via SID (like the ATL flights)? Or perhaps DKR (like the JFK flights)? Or maybe somewhere else entirely, like ACC or LOS?