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LH Sommer Schedule 2005  
User currently offlineDABVF From Germany, joined Sep 2004, 178 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10184 times:

Hello,

here some changes to LH's sommer schedule 2005:
- new daily service Frankfurt-Canton-Manila operated with A340-600 (Flight LH 744)
- Jakarta will be served daily via Bangkok with B747-400 (Flight LH 778), not via Singapore as the years before. Singapore gets a daily flight from Frankfurt with B747-400 (Flight LH 776)
- LH will bring the B747-400 four times a week to Philadelphia, on the other three days A340-300
- A330-300 will be used on flights to Washington (LH 416) and Detroit (LH 442)
- Munich-Shanghai will be served daily with A340-300 (LH 726)
- new service Frankfurt-Port Harcourt-Abuja three times a week with A330-300
- No more A340-600 on Frankfurt-Toronto (LH 470) and Frankfurt-Vancouver (LH 492). Here we will see a daily B747-400 on both routes
- Caracas and Nagoya will be served daily with A340-300 from Frankfurt
- Munich-Delhi (4/7, A340-300) and Munich-Tehran (5/7, A340-300) will be increased, both routes currently are operated 3/7 with A340-300
- the flights Munich-Dubai will be cancelled
- nonstop service Frankfurt-Cape Town three times a week with A340-300, the other days one-stop service Frankfurt-Johannesburg-Cape Town with B747-400.

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User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4980 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9988 times:

Thank you for the list, what is the sked for Canada.

YUL/YVR/YYZ



User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9972 times:

When is LH going back to GIG non-stop. GIG is now served daily with the 747-400 with a stop-over in GRU.

Rgs,


User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 9965 times:

FRA-CAN-MNL is a highlight. Good that they bring a nonstop to CAN. Will the y get 5th freedom rights CAN-MNL?

User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6571 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9886 times:

LH will send an A330-300 to IAD as LH 418/419.

Great news for us spotters!

The777Man



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User currently offlineRCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9826 times:

No BOG still!!!!!!!!! Cant wait to see the LH A343s here!


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User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9805 times:

LH will send an A330-300 to IAD as LH 418/419.

No, LH418/419 will remain a B744 whereas LH 416/417 (as DABVF put it right) will become an A333 service (this one arrives in IAD at 01:40pm)


User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1434 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9796 times:

No MUC-YYZ? darn!
What are they using on FRA-HYD (starts Feb '05), probably a 343?

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineFraT From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 1107 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9712 times:

Kaz,

why should LH fly MUC-YYZ when AC already does this route. I don't think there is enough demand for two daily flights. Remember that AC's flight isn't even daily year round.


User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 9698 times:

it´s interesting to see how LH is now focussing on BKK as a regional hub. assuming that all BKK-bound flights arrive there at a similar timing, this will also allow pax originating from MUC to switch planes in BKK to CGK and vice versa (SGN, KUL).


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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9593 times:

Will FRA-IAH still be an A340?


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User currently offlineChiguire From Venezuela, joined Sep 2004, 2005 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9574 times:

Great that finally CCS is daily. I hope it stays like this as we have seen reductions in the past.....

User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1434 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9553 times:

FraT,
Absolutely correct!
But I figured that maybe with the "shortage" of a/c at AC that maybe we might see LH metal on that route. Big grin

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9522 times:

Will PDX still see the A340-300?

User currently offlineYanksn4 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1404 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9497 times:

Does anyone think LH might someday start non-stop DEN-MUC flights? I've heard the passenger levels on the flights from DEN to FRA are real good and are always full.

signed,
Matthew



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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 9492 times:

Any chance the second daily A333 flight to Cairo (LH652/588) will become aterminator services like LH582? Currently the flights continue to Sanaa (Yemen) and Khartoum (Sudan).

Horus




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User currently offlineFraT From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 1107 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9420 times:

Kaz,

I think that another problem for LH is, that they don't have the fitting aircraft for such a market. Their smallest A/C is the A330 or A340. A 767 which AC uses is perfect for this route.


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3404 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9380 times:

Nice!!! Philadelphia will see 2 scheduled 744's this summer(LH and BA)

User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1605 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9322 times:

I've heard the passenger levels on the flights from DEN to FRA are real good and are always full.


Just because the flight's always full doesn't mean the flight makes money.




N670UW


User currently offlineTom033 From France, joined Nov 2004, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9287 times:

Will there be improvings on LH's MUC-BOD route for the summer season 05 ?


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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4784 posts, RR: 43
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9149 times:

Yes FRA-HYD will see A 343s.

Surprising to see MUC-DXB getting terminated...guess EK was giving them a v hard time on that route!!!


User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1778 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 9091 times:

How does the YUL-MUC schedule look like?

User currently offlineIluv747400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 9077 times:

Why do they fly to Port Harcourt first and then back to Abuja? The flight from Frankfurt to Port Harcourt would have them pass alomst directly over Abuja. Wouldn't it save money to fly the other way around?

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8902 times:

Why will LH use a 747-400 on the FRA-PHL route three to four times a week? Is there not enough demand with their A340-300 and the US A330?

User currently offlineWagz From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 516 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8878 times:
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US is now a Star Alliance member, now providing numerous connecting oppurtunities out of PHL for LH. DEN being a major UA STAR hub also has 744s summer only. At least that's the way it seems to me.

Of course, the above is dependent on US' survival. Hopefully they pull through and benefit from this.

Joe Wagner



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25 JoFMO : @Iluv: I heard that they this way can offer perfect helicopter connections to the offshore oil fields. Other carriers from Europe alos fly nonstop to
26 Cloud4000 : By the looks of it, BOS will be going all A340-300s for the summer schedule: 2x FRA; 1x MUC. Any chance of seeing a A330-300 slip in once in awhile?
27 Post contains images LH423 : That's what I keep waiting for. Why not continue the tradition BOS has of having one of the highest levels of A330 traffic in a non-hub airport in Nor
28 LH600 : I am happy to hear that the MUC-THR flights will increase to 5x weekly. I didn't think this was going to be a successful route. I thought additional F
29 Mdwalkman : Munich-Beijing, still no daily?
30 DABVF : I will post an overview of all (planned) LH longhaul flights in Summer 2005 today evening when I am home again.
31 DYK : I gues if LH is sending a 744 to YVR there will be no YVR-MUC in summer 2005?
32 Flying-Tiger : To put it into simple terms: LH would like to do a lot more flights, but currently they are lacking the equipment. The recent add-on order for 7 A340-
33 HB-IWC : When is LH going back to GIG non-stop. As far as I know, they're looking at it for Winter 2005. That doesn't mean it is going to happen though. There'
34 Ts-ior : LH flights to Tunis will take-off late in the night from FRA and at dawn from TUN.
35 HB-IWC : Forgot to add a couple of personal remarks to my previous post: Mexico It seems that MEX will effectively be downgraded this summerseason, from 10 wee
36 A3xx900 : I'm not quite surprised with the cancellation of the MUC-DXB route. I never understood why LH operated this flight in the first place. About that nons
37 Post contains images FLYYUL : HB-IWC Thank you for your analysis of the situation, it is very much appreciated. A scheduling concern for you, LH474 to YUL is estimated to arrive at
38 Post contains images AeroWesty : Interesting to see how MNL will loose F-class service with the introduction of the A346. Why would this be any surprise? Allocate assets where they ca
39 Soups : accra is going daily too
40 Post contains images RCS763av : So no word on BOG???? Not even rumors???
41 Lhstr : I dont think BOG is in the making. It basically doesnt make sense to continue an A340-300 service. That means FRA-CCS-BOG is IMHO totally out of the q
42 Post contains images Hardiwv : Latest press release: LH will double flights to GRU to TWO DAILY FLIGHTS as of 18 Feb/05, as follows: FROM GRU TO FRA: Flights LH503 LH527 GRU 16:15 1
43 Venezuela747 : I'm glad to see CCS has turned into daily. They broguth the 747 for a coupel of days into CCS, anyone caught it? DEN is being served right now (or was
44 A3xx900 : DEN is being served right now (or was for a while) with the 346, hopefully DEN-MUC occurs in the near future. And don't forget that there's UA's servi
45 Hardiwv : I am surprised by the amount of flights Germany-Brazil...wow, 37 flights per week!
46 Lufthansa747 : So how about Bangkok? Daily 744 (LH 778/9)FRA-BKK-CGK Daily 346 (LH 772/782 LH 773/783) MUC-BKK-KUL/SGN? Remains 2x daily to BKK and F is eliminated f
47 JoFMO : The new timetable to MNL can only be temporarily. When CAN has enough traffic in its own, the leg to MNL will be rescheduled. BKK-MNL had 5th freedom
48 Lufthansa747 : Yes, BKK-MNL has 5th freedom but also low yields. Premium cabins are almost always empty and Y is filled with el cheapo W fares. MNL faces (faced) the
49 JoFMO : There is also the possibility, that LH will once extend its flight MUC-HKG to MNL. It stands empty around in HKG for 7 and 1/2 hours. I think it would
50 Post contains images BREmer : Flight 744 operated by an A346.
51 DABVF : Here an actual overwiew of LH's plans for Summer 2005: >> from Frankfurt LH 582 Kairo 1_3_56_ A330-200 LH 612 Baku - Ashgabat _2_4__7 A330-200 LH 648
52 Caribb : LH 470 Toronto 1234567 B747-400 (From Frankfurt) & LH 470 Montreal 1234567 A340-300 (From Munich) ?? same flight number or just a typo??[Edited 2004-1
53 Leneld : Right on...PDX will be going daily agian during the summer of 2005!
54 DABVF : @ Caribb: Sorry was my mistake, Munich-Montreal is LH 474.
55 Post contains images BBADXB : On the short haul side, LH is adding a much needed link from MUC to MLA: MUC->MLA LH4104 2300-0115 A319 __3_5_7 MLA->MUC LH4105 0315-0550 A319 1__4_6
56 Post contains images The777Man : Thanks for the very comprehensive schedule but you forgot about LH 416/417 FRA-IAD daily with A330-300. Take Care The777Man
57 HB-IWC : I agree with some of the posters above that the Asian operation is volatile. Operations to Canton will indeed very soon be large enough to become stan
58 HB-IWC : LH will double flights to GRU to TWO DAILY FLIGHTS as of 18 Feb/05. This is a major investment in Brazil! Behind the surface optimism that packages LH
59 AA B777-200 : Uhhhh... so LH is returning to AUA??? Did I read it right? Any info on aircraft/scheduled or was Venezuela747 mistaken with Abuja? Great info though!
60 Hardiwv : As for the major investment, there is really no investment whatsoever: no extra flights, no extra seats to South America, and the only winner is likel
61 RCS763av : BOG-FRA was a nonstop flight 3x weekly, I was on it back in August 2001. It was cancelled b/c of the loss of PAX due to the 9/11 events.
62 Luisde8cd : LH flights to/from CCS are usually full, reaching average monthly loads of 98%. I don't see the need of extending the flight to BOG, I mean where are
63 EddieDude : I still cannot understand why the second flight to MEX during the summer will not be reinstated. The loads are always around 100% during the summer fo
64 FLYYUL : Guys. Full flights do NOT guarantee adequate profitability. EVery LH long-haul service has a load factor of around 90%, 'cause they wouldnt stick arou
65 Luisde8cd : FLYYUL, I know that a flight can have high loads and not be profitable, it depends on the yields. But what Im talking about here is that since flights
66 FLYYUL : Luis, Absolutely. I was more referring to the other posters on this thread who imply that their station is 90% full and needs more capacity.
67 HB-IWC : I still cannot understand why the second flight to MEX during the summer will not be reinstated. The loads are always around 100% during the summer fo
68 Dairy : For me as big Malta-Fan this news is the best today: --- On the short haul side, LH is adding a much needed link from MUC to MLA: MUC->MLA LH4104 2300
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