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First Winter Storm Is Coming!  
User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5796 times:

The forecasters are predicting a major winter storm that will move up the Mississippi and Ohio Valleys, causing severe thunderstorms in Georgia and leaving up to 18 inches of snow to the north. Given the path of this storm is will most likely cause a real mess for Delta at ATL and CVG, NW at DTW, CO at CLE, UPS at SDF, DHL at CVG & ILN, US at PIT and ATA at IND. This storm is predicted to start having impact on Wednesday afternoon through Thursday midday. This is terrible timing given all the people trying to travel for the holidays. If things hold as predicted I would expect massive cancellations and delays.

I hope it isn't as bad as predicted so most everyone can safely travel and enjoy the holidays.


Tailwinds!!!
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User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1335 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5716 times:

Here in Alaska the title for this thread is quite amusing


Wally Bird Ruled the Skys!
User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5729 times:

Delta is ahead of the game here on their home turf:

Winter weather is expected in the Ohio Valley beginning overnight Thursday, December 23rd. This may result in flight delays and some cancellations.

Please use the Flight Information tool at the bottom of the page to see if your flight has been impacted. To receive updates sent directly to you, please sign up for Flight Notifications.

Rescheduling Flights:
Customers who desire to change their flight as a result of the winter storm December 22nd through December 25th, 2004, confirmed on Delta, Delta Connection®, or Delta-coded flights may make changes without penalty or additional fees if rebooking and traveling by January 12, 2005. Please call Reservations for assistance. See impacted cities below (note: list may not be complete)


BMI - Bloomington, IL

BUF - Buffalo, NY

CAK - Akron/Canton, OH

CLE - Cleveland, OH

CMH - Columbus, OH

CMI - Champaign, IL

CVG - Cincinnati, OH

DAY - Dayton, OH

ERI - Erie, PA

EVV - Evansville, IN

FWA - Ft Wayne, IN

IND - Indianapolis, IN

LEX - Lexington, KY

PDH - Paducah, KY

ROC - Rochester, NY

SBN - South Bend, IN

SDF - Louisville, KY

SYR - Syracuse, NY

TOL - Toledo, OH

YOW - Ottawa, Canada

YUL - Montreal, Canada

YYZ - Toronto, Canada

Does this include people connecting in CVG or CLE, even if their final and initial destination is not listed? Also, its kind of odd that its only through the 25th...lets say a family is going to YYZ for the whole week (I know, why fly to YYZ on DL, but it was the first city I saw!) and wanted to cancel the whole trip...could they only get part of it refunded?

Oh well, let's hope for the best...these winder storms always hit around holidays...good for the people who get to enjoy a white Christmas...bad for the people who have to work around or in the case of ramp people, in it!


User currently offlineMiaskies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5672 times:

Hmmm how about WINTER WEATHER delays at MIA or FLL? hehehehehe

 Wink/being sarcastic



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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3293 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5668 times:

It'll be interesting to see where te storm tracks. Local TV in TOL is predicting 1-3 inches to the north of us, really sparing DTW. They are currently predicting 4-6 inches in TOL, 8+ inches just to the south of us in Findlay, which really isn't that far. Should be fun!

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5651 times:

Lono: Here in Alaska the title for this thread is quite amusing

Was laughing about this very thread not 5 minutes ago . . . I work at Prudhoe (SCC) now, and was thinking, "Geez, where's this guy been"??  Big thumbs up

[Edited 2004-12-22 04:34:03]

User currently offlineSkibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5636 times:

They are predicting anywhere from 12 to 18 inches in the CVG area. More to the north of Cincinnati and less to the southeast. It will definately be interesting to watch the track. The one thing they are saying on the weather here in Cincinnati is the colder air, than expected, is moving in so the accumulations may be greater. It is suppose to track pretty much straigh up I-71.

I was suppose to fly to PHL Wednesday morning and return in the evening, but ended postponing the trip so I wouldn't get stuck in PHL and possibly miss the start of the holidays.




Tailwinds!!!
User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1335 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5574 times:

ANCFlyer...
yeah LOL... I have done some SCC time!!! I remember once on July 4th they shot fireworks there in a snow storm!!!
Funny thing they just announced on the WX here that Talkeetna is expecting 14 to 34 inches tonight!!!! Talkeetna is just about 50 miles from beautiful Wasilla!!!
Great for the snow machine crowd... !!!
I wonder what some would think of the daily commute from Wasilla to ANC...!!!
65 to 80 mph in the snow and ice!!! I have been passed by a car going sideways!!! Ha!



Wally Bird Ruled the Skys!
User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4600 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5578 times:

Okay...since most of the media are morons...here's what i've been getting. From watching the models the last few days...GFS, ETA, MRF, NGM, MM5, and AVN are all starting to agree finally. GFS was the more aggressive and ruled out by most...but I've always found it to be the most reliable. All the models are starting to go with the GFS trends.

So here goes...Ohio wise...low is going to come out of the south and track up to around CAK sit there for a bit and then dart NNE on Thursday. Initially the heavy snow was suppose to run from CVG to CMH to CLE...right along I-71. Right now the models are mixing in a lot of warm air that will mix the snow away in the eastern third of Ohio - there will still be snow...not that much now though. The heavier snow band seems to be getting pushed back to more along I-75 from Monroe, MI (south of DTW) through TOL down to CVG. We'll probably see 6+ around Detroit...more by Lake Huron thanks to a north wind with lake enhancement.

We'll have a band of 10 to 20 running from the Toledo area down through FDY, DAY to CVG. CVG may have some mixing...they are right on the line going by ETA and GFS. That'll knock the snow down there. Expect some early enhancement around Northern ohio...including around TOL...with a ENE/NE wind...something that doesn't happen very often.

Indiana won't get much and anything north of Ann Arbor to Hillsdale, MI line will be pretty dry...maybe an inch or two. Indiana will however get some lake effect around Gary and South Bend...but nothing from this system.

So overall...PIT should be okay for what traffic is left there...and DTW and CVG will be hosed pretty well. Any diversions from DTW expect those to go far north because the primary diversion airport - Toledo - will be snowed in pretty good.

Winds with the system should be below Blizzard criteria...winds won't meet the required speed (35)...but visibility requirements will be there in places.

It'll be fun.  Smile


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5557 times:

This is the THIRD storm already for CLE, not the first: we got 10 inches a week ago yesterday (monday), got about another 7 inches on Sunday, and we're looking at 5-6 tomorrow afternoon, 3 to 5 Wednesday night, and another 2 to 4 Thursday morning, also with some freezing rain or sleet maybe mixed in. That's up to 16 inches.

Ho Ho Ho.  Sad


User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5517 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5477 times:

Yes, and hear in Minnesota we get temperatures which are currently -15 degrees and a clear, dry sky that literally chokes you.

User currently offlineLfutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3339 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5471 times:

anyone know how much snow Chicago is supposed to get?


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User currently offlineDeltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5460 times:


AA has already waived change fees for all flights out of DFW for the next few days. We aren't supposed to get any snow, but I guess cold weather is scary enough for us North Texans!! It was 73 yesterday, and Thursday low is supposed to be near 20.


User currently offlineMeister808 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 973 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5446 times:

Yeah people in Cincinnati are officially peeing their pants in fright at the thought of snow bollocksing up the holiday travel. Hopefully it goes well for all involved. My friends who run de-ice out at CVG are going to be busy tomorrow and Thursday, that's for damn sure.

-Meister



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5433 times:

I'm sure between now and 7pm friday night, someone will blame me, the lowly gate agent, for the bad weather.  Big grin

User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4600 posts, RR: 22
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5414 times:

Chicago may get some lake effect off of L.M. but nothing from the system itself.

User currently offlineFsuwxman From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 439 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 5206 times:

OUBoy79

AVN = GFS... Same model.

Don't they teach you anyhting there at OU, maybe you missed that day at Intro to MET...  Big grin Just playin'

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/changes/avn-gfs_rename.html



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User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5119 times:

Good ! Snowstorms are great for business! My business that is!!


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlineUsairways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5082 times:

oh great! im flying BWI-CLE-FLL tomorrow morning. im not worried about the CLE-FLL flight being delayed, im more worried about BWI-CLE. id hate to miss my connection, i dont want to stay in ohio for longer than i have to. lol

User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5043 times:

I'm sure between now and 7pm friday night, someone will blame me, the lowly gate agent, for the bad weather.

Of course! There's always that one conspiracy theorist that feels it's the airline getting off on losing money because they can't fly and but making up for it in the sheer joy of inconveniencing thousands of people...all who pay to make the airline run.

I love northern winter  Smile

LH423



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5005 times:

im not worried about the CLE-FLL flight being delayed,

You should be, because Thursday morning we're expecting very heavy snow, and a chance of freezing rain or drizzle. There's going to be lots of delays and cancellations in CLE between now and Thursday night.

I head into work in a half hour. If I'm not back by midnight, just call the Ohio National Gurad.  Big grin

[Edited 2004-12-22 17:49:24]

User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4600 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4872 times:

FSU...

Eh...I would shoot back with something, but you aren't from PSU - so i'll cut you some slack.  Big grin I think I need to start getting more sleep than just a few hours a night. Ugh. LOL

Looks like things continue to trend to the west a bit...GFS is taking the RN almost to CLE now. Guess I should go throw some salt down since it won't be much longer for us here in TOL. Of course...with the amount we are getting...it will all be in vain. LOL


User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4856 times:
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First few flakes are falling at MEM. By 6pm predictions are that 60+ percent of the flights will be delayed. Still better than a few years ago when the total snow removal equipment was akin to 4 winos and a whisk broom .



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User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4606 times:

just call the Ohio National Gurad.

If they're not snowed in  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineJetRanger2000 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 230 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4433 times:

Good, ALB and ATL are not to be in any way affected. I'm flying on DL845 and DL1199 on the 24th, and would hate to have any weather delays.

25 Post contains images Fourstripe : Man this storm through north texas really messed things up for AA. About 35% to 45% of our flights were cancelled today and at 4pm they started the mu
26 Post contains images Admluvs2fly : There are more than 150 trips on the board for tommorrow , it's 9pm and they still haven't given out the trips. Looks like scheduling is peeing in the
27 M404 : There are more than 150 trips on the board for tomorrow , it's 9pm and they still haven't given out the trips. Looks like scheduling is peeing in thei
28 NoMoreRJs : There's more snow on the ground in Texas than O'Hare. Chicago missed this one, but we are only experiencing the first full day of winter.
29 RoseFlyer : I feel sorry for all of those FedEx and UPS employees as well. Their main hubs are being affected, which is not good with the high volume of shipping
30 Post contains images Jetblue : CVG is a mess. I have a friend who has been trying to fly out of there since noon to SBN and everything has been cancelled! Some flights tomorrow are
31 Post contains images Qxq400 : My prayers go out to all the Gate,Counter,Ramp, and Ops agents Good luck!
32 Flairport : This is effecting all of Delta's system...and here at FLL is no exception. ATL had a delay as well, effecting arriving flights, but thats just the beg
33 NW7E7 : In LIT we are down to one runway. There have been several cancellations as well.
34 N766UA : Well, here in CLE the snow has been heavy all day and it is yet to let up- about 7+ extra inches has fallen on top of the 5 we already had. We had a g
35 Meister808 : The word on the news here in Cincinnati is that CVG is moving about 10 flights per hour. That sounds unreasonably slow, but not too surprising all the
36 Post contains links and images ViveLeYHZ : Air Canada has already cancelled many flight to and out of YYZ for Thursday morning. Westjet, JetsGo and the others have not made that decision yet (y
37 Post contains images Zippyjet : Happy Global Warming Holidays! Crappy roller coaster weather is here to stay so get used to it. Here on the East Coast (BWI) in one week we have gone
38 Skibum9 : And to think....those guys in Alaska were laughing when I started this thread! Sure they get tons of snow, but nothing that will impact the US air sys
39 777-200 : The Local news just reported that CVG has run out of deicing fluid for the a/c's departing... 772
40 United_Fan : Talk about wacky a$$ weather ! Here in ROC it was snowing like a bitch last nite. Raining this AM and now it's 51 out! Supposed to go down to 19 toni
41 Groundstop : Continental and Expressjet have now placed themselves on a groundstop at CLE and Comair has done the same at CVG...ramp congestion. CLE 0000 MED ALL B
42 BDRules : Hows Louisville doing?????? Does anyone know if the UPS EMA flight departed this morning?????? If its delayed we may be in early in morning tomorrow t
43 CanadaEH : Picked this up from another forum from a passenger flying United/Jetsgo: My adventures trying to go ORD-YYZ-YQM (Moncton) yesterday. Unfortunately I a
44 CanadaEH : The 5 Jetsgo MD80's that went mechanical didn't help things either..
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