Skibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4995 times:
The forecasters are predicting a major winter storm that will move up the Mississippi and Ohio Valleys, causing severe thunderstorms in Georgia and leaving up to 18 inches of snow to the north. Given the path of this storm is will most likely cause a real mess for Delta at ATL and CVG, NW at DTW, CO at CLE, UPS at SDF, DHL at CVG & ILN, US at PIT and ATA at IND. This storm is predicted to start having impact on Wednesday afternoon through Thursday midday. This is terrible timing given all the people trying to travel for the holidays. If things hold as predicted I would expect massive cancellations and delays.
I hope it isn't as bad as predicted so most everyone can safely travel and enjoy the holidays.
Flairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4928 times:
Delta is ahead of the game here on their home turf:
Winter weather is expected in the Ohio Valley beginning overnight Thursday, December 23rd. This may result in flight delays and some cancellations.
Please use the Flight Information tool at the bottom of the page to see if your flight has been impacted. To receive updates sent directly to you, please sign up for Flight Notifications.
Customers who desire to change their flight as a result of the winter storm December 22nd through December 25th, 2004, confirmed on Delta, Delta Connection®, or Delta-coded flights may make changes without penalty or additional fees if rebooking and traveling by January 12, 2005. Please call Reservations for assistance. See impacted cities below (note: list may not be complete)
BMI - Bloomington, IL
BUF - Buffalo, NY
CAK - Akron/Canton, OH
CLE - Cleveland, OH
CMH - Columbus, OH
CMI - Champaign, IL
CVG - Cincinnati, OH
DAY - Dayton, OH
ERI - Erie, PA
EVV - Evansville, IN
FWA - Ft Wayne, IN
IND - Indianapolis, IN
LEX - Lexington, KY
PDH - Paducah, KY
ROC - Rochester, NY
SBN - South Bend, IN
SDF - Louisville, KY
SYR - Syracuse, NY
TOL - Toledo, OH
YOW - Ottawa, Canada
YUL - Montreal, Canada
YYZ - Toronto, Canada
Does this include people connecting in CVG or CLE, even if their final and initial destination is not listed? Also, its kind of odd that its only through the 25th...lets say a family is going to YYZ for the whole week (I know, why fly to YYZ on DL, but it was the first city I saw!) and wanted to cancel the whole trip...could they only get part of it refunded?
Oh well, let's hope for the best...these winder storms always hit around holidays...good for the people who get to enjoy a white Christmas...bad for the people who have to work around or in the case of ramp people, in it!
TOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3224 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4867 times:
It'll be interesting to see where te storm tracks. Local TV in TOL is predicting 1-3 inches to the north of us, really sparing DTW. They are currently predicting 4-6 inches in TOL, 8+ inches just to the south of us in Findlay, which really isn't that far. Should be fun!
Skibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4835 times:
They are predicting anywhere from 12 to 18 inches in the CVG area. More to the north of Cincinnati and less to the southeast. It will definately be interesting to watch the track. The one thing they are saying on the weather here in Cincinnati is the colder air, than expected, is moving in so the accumulations may be greater. It is suppose to track pretty much straigh up I-71.
I was suppose to fly to PHL Wednesday morning and return in the evening, but ended postponing the trip so I wouldn't get stuck in PHL and possibly miss the start of the holidays.
Lono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1321 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4773 times:
yeah LOL... I have done some SCC time!!! I remember once on July 4th they shot fireworks there in a snow storm!!!
Funny thing they just announced on the WX here that Talkeetna is expecting 14 to 34 inches tonight!!!! Talkeetna is just about 50 miles from beautiful Wasilla!!!
Great for the snow machine crowd... !!!
I wonder what some would think of the daily commute from Wasilla to ANC...!!!
65 to 80 mph in the snow and ice!!! I have been passed by a car going sideways!!! Ha!
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4055 posts, RR: 23 Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4777 times:
Okay...since most of the media are morons...here's what i've been getting. From watching the models the last few days...GFS, ETA, MRF, NGM, MM5, and AVN are all starting to agree finally. GFS was the more aggressive and ruled out by most...but I've always found it to be the most reliable. All the models are starting to go with the GFS trends.
So here goes...Ohio wise...low is going to come out of the south and track up to around CAK sit there for a bit and then dart NNE on Thursday. Initially the heavy snow was suppose to run from CVG to CMH to CLE...right along I-71. Right now the models are mixing in a lot of warm air that will mix the snow away in the eastern third of Ohio - there will still be snow...not that much now though. The heavier snow band seems to be getting pushed back to more along I-75 from Monroe, MI (south of DTW) through TOL down to CVG. We'll probably see 6+ around Detroit...more by Lake Huron thanks to a north wind with lake enhancement.
We'll have a band of 10 to 20 running from the Toledo area down through FDY, DAY to CVG. CVG may have some mixing...they are right on the line going by ETA and GFS. That'll knock the snow down there. Expect some early enhancement around Northern ohio...including around TOL...with a ENE/NE wind...something that doesn't happen very often.
Indiana won't get much and anything north of Ann Arbor to Hillsdale, MI line will be pretty dry...maybe an inch or two. Indiana will however get some lake effect around Gary and South Bend...but nothing from this system.
So overall...PIT should be okay for what traffic is left there...and DTW and CVG will be hosed pretty well. Any diversions from DTW expect those to go far north because the primary diversion airport - Toledo - will be snowed in pretty good.
Winds with the system should be below Blizzard criteria...winds won't meet the required speed (35)...but visibility requirements will be there in places.
It'll be fun.
Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4756 times:
This is the THIRD storm already for CLE, not the first: we got 10 inches a week ago yesterday (monday), got about another 7 inches on Sunday, and we're looking at 5-6 tomorrow afternoon, 3 to 5 Wednesday night, and another 2 to 4 Thursday morning, also with some freezing rain or sleet maybe mixed in. That's up to 16 inches.
Deltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1386 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4659 times:
AA has already waived change fees for all flights out of DFW for the next few days. We aren't supposed to get any snow, but I guess cold weather is scary enough for us North Texans!! It was 73 yesterday, and Thursday low is supposed to be near 20.
Meister808 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 972 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4645 times:
Yeah people in Cincinnati are officially peeing their pants in fright at the thought of snow bollocksing up the holiday travel. Hopefully it goes well for all involved. My friends who run de-ice out at CVG are going to be busy tomorrow and Thursday, that's for damn sure.
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Usairways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1003 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 4281 times:
oh great! im flying BWI-CLE-FLL tomorrow morning. im not worried about the CLE-FLL flight being delayed, im more worried about BWI-CLE. id hate to miss my connection, i dont want to stay in ohio for longer than i have to. lol
LH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 55 Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 4242 times:
I'm sure between now and 7pm friday night, someone will blame me, the lowly gate agent, for the bad weather.
Of course! There's always that one conspiracy theorist that feels it's the airline getting off on losing money because they can't fly and but making up for it in the sheer joy of inconveniencing thousands of people...all who pay to make the airline run.
I love northern winter
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Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 22 hours ago) and read 4204 times:
im not worried about the CLE-FLL flight being delayed,
You should be, because Thursday morning we're expecting very heavy snow, and a chance of freezing rain or drizzle. There's going to be lots of delays and cancellations in CLE between now and Thursday night.
I head into work in a half hour. If I'm not back by midnight, just call the Ohio National Gurad.
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4055 posts, RR: 23 Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 20 hours ago) and read 4071 times:
Eh...I would shoot back with something, but you aren't from PSU - so i'll cut you some slack. I think I need to start getting more sleep than just a few hours a night. Ugh. LOL
Looks like things continue to trend to the west a bit...GFS is taking the RN almost to CLE now. Guess I should go throw some salt down since it won't be much longer for us here in TOL. Of course...with the amount we are getting...it will all be in vain. LOL
Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
M404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2214 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 19 hours ago) and read 4055 times:
Wed 12/22 1:00pm
First few flakes are falling at MEM. By 6pm predictions are that 60+ percent of the flights will be delayed. Still better than a few years ago when the total snow removal equipment was akin to 4 winos and a whisk broom .
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