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First GOL Flight To EZE Today!  
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

Brazil's LCC GOL Linhas Aereas S.A., one of the world's most profitable airlines,
and the only LCC in LatAm, inaugurated its first international flight today arriving in EZE at 10 am.

GOL's first international flights are SSA-GRU-EZE and MAO-GRU-EZE, daily, with the 737NG.

In mid-2004 the airline ordered 43 737-800 passenger airplanes worth up to US $2.7 billion at list prices.

GOL was launched in January 2001 as the first low-fare airline in Brazil, and is the fastest growing airline in LatAm. GOL is also the largest operator of the Next Generation Boeing 737 in LatAm, with a fleet of 29 737NGs, serving 37 destinations.

http://www.voegol.com.br/

For corportate information:

http://www.mz-ir.com/gol/eng/



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5445 times:

Check Gol's website for details. By the way, arrival is scheduled at 12.20 pm  Big grin just being picky! http://www.voegol.com.br/novosdestinos/buenosaires.asp

it's great to have another competitor and i hope to be flying them to GRU sometime soon since i have relatives living there!



Carp aunque ganes o pierdas ...
User currently offlineS.p.a.s. From Liechtenstein, joined Mar 2001, 967 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5437 times:

Ezeiza,

Expect the first flight to be made with this particular airplane:

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Gran saludos

Renato



"ad astra per aspera"
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5424 times:

EZEIZA:

Tks for the precise details!

S.p.a.s,

Tks for the photo with the "tango" livery, celebrating the start of GOL's operations to EZE! Very nice, indeed!

Rgs,



User currently offlineRCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5383 times:

Nice! We need some LCC competition on intra-latam flights. Fares are insane!


Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5360 times:

During the inaugural flight to EZE, GOL's CEO Mr. Constantino stated that until the end of 2005 GOL will be flying to Paraguay (ASU), Uruguay (MVD), Chile (SCL) and and Bolivia (VVI).

Today GOL also launched a new domestic destination: AJU in NE Brazil, and on 15 Feb/05 another domestic destination will be added: JPA also in NE Brazil.

This month GOL also increased its daily flight CGH-SDU to 36 daily flights (72 daily return flights). [The air shuttle SDU-CGH is the most lucrative air market in Brazil. In total (adding TAM and RG flights), there is a flight CGH-SDU almost every minute.]

GOL operates 300 departures (takeoffs) every day.

Rgs,


User currently offlineRCS763av From Colombia, joined Jun 2004, 4395 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5327 times:

72 return flights!!!!!!!!!!!!! I thought BOG-MDE was crowded!!!!!!!


Les escribo desde el frío de mi verde altiplano.
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5287 times:

72 return flights

Sorry, I think I expressed myself wrongly. GOL has 36 daily flights CGH-SDU and 36 daily flights SDU-CGH = 72 flights in both directions.

If you combine GOL + TAM + RG, I think the air shuttle CGH-SDU has an average of 190 flights (one way) per day. It's a lot of flights! It's also the business air market in Brazil.

Rgs,
Hardi


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5236 times:

These are todays flights out of SDU:

http://www.infraero.gov.br/pls/sivnet/voo_top3v.ini?p_cd_aeroporto_ini=SBRJ&p_cd_opcao=chegadas

Note: SDU flight operations are restricted to light to/from CGH and a few regional flights only.

And these are GRU's:

http://www.infraero.gov.br/pls/sivnet/voo_top3v.ini?p_cd_aeroporto_ini=SBGR&p_cd_opcao=chegadas

Note: I counted once roughly 30 flights per day to/from GIG out of GRU (wide and narrow bodies! ) , don't remember the exact number, sorry.

PPVRA



"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlineMarambio From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2004, 1160 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5227 times:

It's great to have a new airline at EZE, especially an LCC which is said to be very good, but...

Brazil's LCC GOL Linhas Aereas S.A., one of the world's most profitable airlines, and the only LCC in LatAm

About the profitability I don't know, but GOL isn't the only LCC in Latin America - let's not forget Uruguay's U-Air!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Saludos,
Marambio



Aerolíneas Argentinas - La Argentina que levanta vuelo.
User currently offlineYu138086 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5218 times:

Just in time for Carnival 2005!!

User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5211 times:

Just in time for Carnival 2005!!

Good thinking.

Hermanos, is EZE expensive during carnival?

Just kidding, but it does get annoying sometimes...

...Carnival commercials on TV, looooong traffic to the beach... the only way is to stay in SP. Half the city is gone to the beach anyways, probably the lowest level of traffic in SP all year (except near the heavy carnival areas).

PPVRA



"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlineJJMNGR From Brazil, joined May 2004, 1018 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5172 times:

Just a curiosity: A friend of mine that works for GOL told me that they had to ferry a B737 to GRU in order to prepare the aircraft to operate this first flight and this B737 had a fire in one of the engines and landed in GRU in emergency. Just a 10 minutes flight between CGH and GRU.

User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5118 times:

So, how is GOL doing in Argentina? Are loads good? Recent reports show an average load factor for both daily flight about 85%, which is quite impressive.

Just a 10 minutes flight between CGH and GRU.

Indeed, and in fact RG operates a daily flight GRU-CGH (10 minuyes only!)! Anyone knows whether this flight is just to relocate a/c to CGH/GRU or what's the reason for it?

Rgs,


User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5094 times:

My brother flew GRU-EZE on Thursday December 23. It was flight G38102 delayed for three hours with a load factor of around 40%. At the same time, some of my friends flew EZE-GRU on Thursday December 23. It was flight G38103 with a load factor of around 30%. My brother is scheduled to fly on Tuesday EZE-GRU. I will ask him on Wednesday how the loads were...

Hope Gol improves its load factors in the next days, low fares on the route are well needed!!


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4306 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5089 times:

GRU is not a tourist city, and even less so in Argentina. And this time of year when Argentines are thinking about summer vacations, I don't think a lot of people on the EZE-GRU route are interested in Sao Paulo. There's really nothing to do or see there and it's hot. In fact, I bet many people on those flights were simply connecting to other points in Brazil at GRU. Maybe that is why, at the moment, capacity is low on the stretch. Perhaps in a couple of months loads will increase a lot more.

They maybe higher on GRU-EZE now if paulistas are comming down to Buenos Aires, which has a much wider variety of activities.



My internet was not shut down, the internet has shut me down
User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5074 times:

There's really nothing to do or see there and it's hot.

Agree that GRU is not much of a tourist city, but it's not that bad. The problem is to find your way around, you have to know someone to take you around... otherwise you'll be completly lost. There is just about any kind of restaurant and entertainment you could want. Not to mention great towns and beaches less than 3 hours drive away. With all it's problems... I don't think I would live anywhere else.

Just a 10 minutes flight between CGH and GRU.

Indeed, and in fact RG operates a daily flight GRU-CGH (10 minuyes only!)! Anyone knows whether this flight is just to relocate a/c to CGH/GRU or what's the reason for it?


OceanAir offered this flight also and for about the same as a Taxi (R$50 or so). The problem is that RG/JJ offer free bus transportation between CGH and GRU... about as much of a hassle if you take into account baggage and security versus 1.5 hour traffic.

PPVRA



"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 22 hours ago) and read 5039 times:

"Agree that GRU is not much of a tourist city, but it's not that bad. The problem is to find your way around, you have to know someone to take you around... otherwise you'll be completly lost. There is just about any kind of restaurant and entertainment you could want. Not to mention great towns and beaches less than 3 hours drive away. With all it's problems... I don't think I would live anywhere else."

Agreed, but in Argentina, and probably everywhere in the world, if you think about Brazil as a tourist destination, you think of Bahia, Porto Seguro, Rio, Florianopolis, etc, not SP. I've been to SP hundreds of times, and also went to the beaches (Guaruja, Santos, etc) and I loved it, but its not a destination that is promoted here. So I have to agree with Derico regarding the load factors. Wait until the summer season is over and I'm sure they will increase towards GRU. In any case, as I already mentioned, it's great to have another option to fly to Brazil. I hope to see prices go down on Aerolineas and Varig!



Carp aunque ganes o pierdas ...
User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 9 months 22 hours ago) and read 5030 times:

I know and LOVE Buenos Aires, but are you serious when you say there is a lot more variety of activities there? Let's see...

Largest art museum in South America: Masp in SP
Biggest entertainment complex in SA: Memorial da America Latina, again SP
World's 3rd largest Art Show: Bienal de Sao Paulo
True original oriental quarter (not some tourist made thing): Liberdade, SP
Most important fashion show in the Southern Hemisphere: SP Fashion Week

And the list goes on...


User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4967 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 22 hours ago) and read 5023 times:

Is SP vs BA war starting  Big grin

No ofense, but SP is just too chaotic! too much traffic, very dangerous, extremely polluted .... not too appealing for tourism!



Carp aunque ganes o pierdas ...
User currently offlinePdpsol From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1116 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 4998 times:

Rafabozzolla,

Sorry, but I have to whole-heartedly agree with EZEIZA here...

Buenos Aires is MUCH more interesting as a TOURIST destination than Sao Paolo is... I am sure Sao Paolo offers greater variety in its gastronomic, fashion and artistic scenes relative to Buenos Aires, but is, well, much too chaotic when compared to the Argentine capital.

Now, as a BUSINESS destination, of course, the story is rather different...

Gimme five days of free vacation time, and I am sure to spend them in Buenos Aires, not Sao Paolo.

Of course, for business meetings, the answer is obvious; one could 'kill several birds with one stone' in Sao Paolo and walk away with quite a bit of commerce!!


User currently offlineLan_Fanatic From Chile, joined Sep 2001, 1071 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 18 hours ago) and read 4991 times:

SP vs. BA war...

hahaha, I love this topics

well, if it is for business, SP
if it is for entertainment, BA

and if its for an overall aspect, Santiago  Laugh out loud


User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8964 posts, RR: 39
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 4988 times:

No ofense, but SP is just too chaotic! too much traffic, very dangerous, extremely polluted .... not too appealing for tourism!

Agree, and that's the three main problems with SP. But let's review the statement made my Derico I do not agree with:

There's really nothing to do or see there and it's hot.

As pointed out by Rafa (just a few), there is lots to do in SP. Including for tourists. However, those not so pleasant conditions unfortunatly exist which hurts our reputation significantly. These conditions have been improving, slowly... but they have.

BTW, temperature here is an average 28 C annualy. It rarely reaches 34C, or over that... so it's not that hot either.

Some links:

http://www.saopaulo.sp.gov.br/ingles/saopaulo/index.htm

http://www.embratur.gov.br/en/galeria-imagem/resultadoBusca.asp?id=391&cidades=63

PPVRA

[Edited 2004-12-27 07:32:32]


"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlineARGinMIA From Argentina, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 4969 times:

Lan_Fanatic ! long time no see you !!.. donde estabas? anyways.. is the distance between CGH and GRU similar to the ones between EZE-AEP? nobady ever flew EZE-AEP commercially.. hehe.. here.. i found a niche..


Alto.. Mucho mas alto.. hasta la cumbre
User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 49
Reply 24, posted (9 years 9 months 10 hours ago) and read 4951 times:

PPVRA:

Tks for the informaton on flights CGH-GRU, which are just 10 minutes! Probably the same distance between EZE and AEP!

It was great to read your information about Sao Paulo, which is my favourite city in LatAm...of course, AFTER RIO DE JANEIRO!  Smile

I had to go to Sao Paulo on business in June this year and decided to spend one week holidays there. It really got surprised. I had a complete programme ranging from Gastronomy to Cultural events and music shows, as Rafabozzolla stated. About the traffic, I also got surprise with the efficient, clean and quick metro/subway, but I think they should extend it. However, Sao Paulo is per se a business destination, and not a very touristic place.

Going back to the topic, we have to remember that GOL is a business-oriented airline. 80% of its seats are filled with business/corporate pax. I am sure its load factor will do better after the holiday season. It's also good to see more competition in the market between GRU and EZE, which will certainly lead to better service and price!

Any photos of GOL in EZE?

Regards,
Hardi


25 Post contains links and images PPVRA : I had to go to Sao Paulo on business in June this year and decided to spend one week holidays there. It really got surprised. I had a complete program
26 Post contains images Marambio : nobady ever flew EZE-AEP commercially.. hehe.. here.. i found a niche.. I'm sorry to tell you the Air Force completely prohibited flights between all
27 PPVRA : Anyway, distance between AEP and EZE is 31km. If you flew it at 500 kmph, flight time would be exactly 4 minutes. CGH-GRU is 29km, basicaly the same.
28 EZEIZA : "That's what I'm talking about. It's not Disney World, but there is plenty to do and see. If you want a more tourist taste of Sao Paulo you have to vi
29 TBCITDG : Love the drive from the airport to Guaruja (I too apologies for the spelling). Even though it gets a little hair raising at times, the view is spectac
30 UairFokker : Well, I am glad and surprised GOL is now international! I cant wait for them to start flights to Montevideo. Marambio is right, don't forget Uair! (lo
31 Post contains images Rafabozzolla : PPVRA just got what I meant. I refuted only the statement that there as nothing to do in Sao Paulo. And, for you guys who might be interested, Sao Pau
32 Luisde8cd : There have been some rumors here in A.net that a new brazilian carrier is interested in starting GRU-CCS-GRU and that could be one of the reasons that
33 PPVRA : Love the drive from the airport to Guaruja (I too apologies for the spelling). Even though it gets a little hair raising at times, the view is spectac
34 Post contains images PPVRA : BTW, you guys got the speling almost right, it's GUARUJÁ. But close enough PPVRA
35 Hardiwv : And, for you guys who might be interested, Sao Paulo is also the venue of one of ther world's lagest Gay Pride parades in June. Over a million took pa
36 Pdpsol : And, for you guys who might be interested, Sao Paulo is also the venue of one of ther world's lagest Gay Pride parades in June. Over a million took pa
37 Hardiwv : Well, THIS is reason enough to visit Sao Paulo in June! Completely agree! This month GOL also increased its daily flight CGH-SDU to 36 daily flights (
38 Argentina : I agree with Tassio on CGH-GIG flights, and with you on the rest Hardi! Regards
39 Post contains links PPVRA : Some news regarding G3: Beggining January 3rd G3 will increase it's service to MGF to 2X daily. Timetable: Depart CGH at 19:10 arrive at MGF at 20:00
40 Post contains images Derico : Hmmm..... I was commenting about Sao Paulo in January/February as an explanation for current EZE-GRU loads on GOL, not the rest of the year! Buenos Ai
41 PU803 : Hi UairFokker ! Nice to meet someone from Punta Del Este(uno de los lugares mas lindos del mundo) What about Uair flights betwen MVD and BUE (EZE or A
42 Hardiwv : Besides everyone knows Mendoza has Buenos Aires beat anyday This will cause some disagreement here! BTW, which route has the biggest domestic traffic
43 Argentina : Yes, Hardi, it is AEP-COR-AEP, and nowadays, even if we would say AEP-MDZ-AEP could be the second, I have a doubt: BRC, IGR and USH are getting so man
44 Hardiwv : Happy New Year for you all! Yes, Hardi, it is AEP-COR-AEP, and nowadays, even if we would say AEP-MDZ-AEP could be the second, I have a doubt: BRC, IG
45 Argentina : Hi Hardi, Happy New Year! Profitablity is higher in other routes. MDZ is perhaps one of them, I can try to find it out later. EZE domestic regular fli
46 Post contains images Luisde8cd : Is there any possibility for Aeropostal to fly CCS-GRU? They served MAO before. No . They dont have the aircraft needed to fly so far south and even i
47 EZEIZA : There was another thread some time ago that was about busiest routes and I think that the busiest was EZE-SCL, although I'm not 100% sure. In any case
48 Arcano : Hi Ezeza SCL-EZE has up to 20 flights, but consider also that many of them are flown in widebodies (daily 777, 767s, 340s, etc)... Does GOL have alrea
49 PPVRA : Arcano, No dates yet for SCL as G3 is still analyzing the market. They are also planning on MVD, VVI and ASU. Cheers, PPVRA
50 Arcano : PPVRA: Hi! Actually, TAM just started GRU-SCL, with very poor final consumer marketing BTW, no idea what are the doing with wholesalers and agencies t
51 Estick : Hello and Happy New Year to you all! Is GOL going to add any other destination to/from EZE?? Or are they offering any cheap fares connecting in GRU? R
52 LVZXV : GOL also arrived in PDP for the first time on December 26th from GRU. Looks like they will be operating a string of charters this season. TAM Mercosur
53 EZEIZA : hola ZXV, tanto tiempo. Como va todo? Hi everyone, I was checking GOL's webpage (in spanish version) and they are offering round trip flights to some
54 Argentina : Promotion is for summer only: EZE-NVT-EZE (2 weekly flights to Navegantes Airport, near Camboriu, Bombas and Bombinhas) USD 60,- Return + Taxes EZE-GR
55 Post contains links PPVRA : Just an update, unrelated to the topic: As of March 13 all flight to/from PLU will be transferred to CNF. The move comes because PLU is congested and
56 EZEIZA : Gracias por la info Argentina!
57 Hardiwv : EZE-NVT-EZE (2 weekly flights to Navegantes Airport, near Camboriu, Bombas and Bombinhas) USD 60,- Return + Taxes EZE-GRU-EZE (2 daily flights) USD 10
58 EZEIZA : "Apparently flights are always fully booked - local newspaper reported loads of 90% for the first GOL flights EZE-NVT." It doesn't surprise me at all
59 Hardiwv : GOL is doing a great job advertizing their arrival to the Argentine market. GOL has also been advertising its new flights to EZE in Brazil. However, N
60 Erikwilliam : HArdi, in reply 13 U said: Just a 10 minutes flight between CGH and GRU. Indeed, and in fact RG operates a daily flight GRU-CGH (10 minuyes only!)! An
61 Hardiwv : Indeed, and in fact RG operates a daily flight GRU-CGH (10 minuyes only!)! Anyone knows whether this flight is just to relocate a/c to CGH/GRU or what
62 PPVRA : Ocean Air now seems closer to TAM. Maybe TAM is interested in their proposition? Not sure about here in Brazil, but I'm resonably sure thay have an ag
63 Hardiwv : Texas and Rio are Oil business destinations. That's why CO has an agreement with Ocean Air which connects CO pax from GIG to smaller oils cities in th
64 Post contains links PPVRA : G3 update: Santa Cruz de La Sierra, Bolivia is G3s next (and second) international destination. It will be regular schedules, but no word yet if it wi
65 Hardiwv : Why would GOL want to fly to VVI in Bolivia? Wouldn't ASU, MVD or a second destination in Argentina be more profitable? Anyway, linking CGR to VVI see
66 JJMNGR : Arcano, GRU/SCL is near to complete 02 months of operation and load factors are arround 65% which is very good. Imagine if the marketing would be more
67 PPVRA : Hardi, VVI is a great place to visit, lot's of people go backpacking in Bolivia from Brazil. Maybe not exactly the most profitable destination for G3,
68 Airbrasil : PP-VRA, Para informar que a Ocean Air nao vai fazer linha para o Mato Grosso e sim para o Mato Grosso do Sul? Sera que essa regiao alem de parecer ? r
69 Post contains links PPVRA : http://www.panrotas.com.br/canais/redacao/pandigital/modelos/ultima.asp?cod_not=14389&cod_sec=1&cod_lay=1&cod_aut=56&nome_model=ultima.asp&url_origem=
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