OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7681 times:
I mentioned this the other day (seen on another board) and just read today that:
"The aircraft in question are ex-Saudi L1011-200's. Ten of them have been parked at Raif, Saudi Arabia (OETF) since the late 1990's. ATA is rumored to be interested in five of them with a power by the hour arrangement. They are powered by the RB211-524B"
SATL382G From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7287 times:
Ummmm the 75/76 have a common cock-pit.... So I don't see a type problem.
No argument there. The folks typed in the 75 are likely busy flying the 75.
Anyone know what the rumored plans are for these jets. Is ATA looking to expand AMC contract operations? From some of Clipper002s comments in another thread, sounds like World has all the AMC business it can handle.
UAL Bagsmasher From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2150 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7254 times:
Everyone always brings up the fuel efficiency comments when it comes to operating old aircraft. True, they burn more fuel. BUT, who's making more money? An airline based in MSP with 40 year old gas guzzling DC-9's and a bunch of DC-10's, or an ORD based airline with a brand new fleet of fuel efficient Airbus and other modern twinjet aircraft? Hmmmmmm.
Jran225 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 308 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7038 times:
this is absolutely fantastic news...at least for a hardcore Tristar fan such as myself! Living near BWI, I am used to seeing TZ's Tristar 500s on a regular basis and I'm still trying to hunt down N194AT. Most of the AMC charters we get at BWI arrive from FRA. Does anybody here know whether the Tristar 200s have the range to fly FRA-BWI non-stop?? Any info would be very much appreciated!
Never tell your girlfriend about all the 'action' you're getting at the airport - only photogs understand that.
DfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1055 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6994 times:
ost of the AMC charters we get at BWI arrive from FRA. Does anybody here know whether the Tristar 200s have the range to fly FRA-BWI non-stop?? Any info would be very much appreciated!
FRA-BWI is 3,500 nm, so figure in another 500nm for the actual routing distance and another 500nm for wind penalties and weather for a trip distance of 4,500 nm. This should be doable with a L1011-200....
Good point my Bag smasher friend .... What costs more, an airplane payment or a gas bill ???
It isn't always that simple. If these aircraft have been in storage for a long time, refurbishement cost could add up quickly, heavy maintenance might be required, ect. In any event, the worldwide fleet of active L1011s is below 50 (I believe), so support of these aircraft through the next decade will likely dwindle. More L1011's are not a long-term solution to ATA's needs....
LN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6936 times:
Fuel effeciency is not an issue for an AMC flight. The government pays for the fuel.
Yes, I'm sure World gets more requests than they can handle. From what I hear, so do we. With 25.000 more troops moving in, the business is ever expanding ...
The Saudi -200's are said to be in good shape and have low hours. If this deal goes through, it will be a great moneymaker for us!!
Silver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4937 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6666 times:
The L will all be close to my heart. My first widebody/Int'l/movie flight was on 2 DL L's CVG-ZRH in July '95. Wish I wrote down the reg's.
I can relate to this very much. My first flying experience was on a Hawaiian L1011 (SFO-HNL-SFO) back in '92. Wish I was older at the time, and as involved in the aviation community as I am now. I'd probably remember much more vivid details from the experience.
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