FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5667 times:
Season Greetings to All....
A couple of question on CO's 777 fleet here. How many do they operate? The Boeing website says they have delivered 16, with none on order. But other sources I've come across says CO has 18 777s. So which is right? And last question being...are all their 777s of the -224 series? Happy Holidays everyone.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 18800 posts, RR: 64 Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5589 times:
CO has 18 Boeing 777s. Perhaps this snip from a Continental press release will help explain how they got there:
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HOUSTON, Sept. 14, 2000 -- Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL and CAL.A) today announced that it has converted deliveries of two Boeing 767-400ER aircraft, originally scheduled for 2004, into deliveries of two Boeing 777-200ER (extended range) aircraft for delivery in early 2002. Boeing 777s will be used on the carrier’s recently announced non-stop New York-Hong Kong flights.
In addition, the carrier placed an order for five Boeing 737-800 aircraft. The 737-800s will be delivered in the second half of 2002.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6079 posts, RR: 56 Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5572 times:
Two 777s are leased from ILFC so therefore, 16 777-200ERs are directly ordered and delivered thru Boeing, for a total of 18.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5446 times:
Thanks Guys. So Continental has 18 777s. Got it. So now I'm assuming that all of the 777s are of the -224 series? Merry Christmas & regards.
"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
Newark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 33 Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5393 times:
AAplatnumflier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5374 times:
Is there anychance of them operating a LAX-LGW route with a 772? Money says it would be highly profitable as us SoCalifornians dont like stopping in EWR or DFW.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5354 times:
CO does not have the route authority to fly LAX to LGW, a little thing called the Bermuda 2 treaty pretty much assure us we will not see CO flying LAX to LGW.
Sammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1686 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5330 times:
B6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 813 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5326 times:
i'm not too familiar w/ the Bermuda 2 deal but i thought it dealt w/ 2 UK airlines (British and Virgin) and 2 US airlines (United and American) were allowed to operate between LHR and a US city. thought LGW wasn't part of the deal. thanx for any explanation
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6079 posts, RR: 56 Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5293 times:
All 18 are 777-224/ERs.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 89 Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5152 times:
Anyway, what good would a LAX-LGW route do?
CO can operate EWR-LGW because of the power of the EWR hub. LAX-LGW would be crushed by UA, AA, BA, and VS all operating to Heathrow.
Aa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5140 times:
Guess the only good it would do is for CO ff wanting to fly out of the west coast and not having to do a transcon and connect at EWR. AA does very well on their LAX-LHR route I'm told.
Newark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 33 Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5135 times:
CO does very well flying their international flights out of their IAH and EWR hubs. I don't think they would take the risk by starting to dipping into new markets. Why fix it if it isn't broke?
AirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4491 posts, RR: 55 Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4975 times:
CO flies LAX-LHR twice a day, but the flights are operated with VS aircraft and crew
interestingly enough the CO flights end up being much cheaper. I cross shopped VS 8 to Continental 8098 or whatever the hell it is for upper class and VS offered a price of 4000 and CO only 2650.
Booking with CO, you can't redeem VS miles nor access Revivals, but you do get the Clubhouse!
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 15 Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4441 times:
Continental has 18 Boeing 777's in service, making it the third largest US operator of the plane, after United and American. The only other scheduled US operator of the 777 is Delta.
The first two 777's were delivered in 1998 and with them, Continental launched nonstop Newark-Tokyo service, followed by nonstop Houston to Tokyo service a few months later.
Today, the 777's are used on the following routes:
Newark to London/Gatwick (CO 18 only), Paris CDG (CO 56), Tel Aviv, Tokyo/Narita, Hong Kong, Amsterdam, Manchester, and Madrid, as well as on one or two rotations between Newark and Houston.
From Houston the 777 operates to London/Gatwick (2 daily), Paris CDG, Tokyo/Narita.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6079 posts, RR: 56 Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3772 times:
CO got more than two 777s in 1998; they got their first six in 1998.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 15 Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3610 times:
The777Man, I didn't imply that they only got 2 in 1998 but they did not get as many as six. The first two were delivered in late October 1998 and the Tokyo route was launched in November.
The additional 2 777's (#17 and 18), both of which are leased, entered the fleet in 2003.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6079 posts, RR: 56 Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3563 times:
The clearly did get 6 of them in 1998; N78001 and N78002 in Sep98, N78003 and N78004 in Nov98 and N78005 and N77006 in Dec98. You can doublecheck this info on Boeing's website if you like or on other websites.
CO flew IAH-LAX-IAH-EWR-IAH with a 777 for crewtraining from Oct98 until the end of Feb99. I flew on N78001 LAX-IAH in Nov98 and like you said, by that time they had already started flights to NRT.
CO did take their 777s at a very rapid pace; by Sep99 they had 13 already.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6079 posts, RR: 56 Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3536 times:
This is the info from Boeing's website:
Deliveries January 1998 through December 1998
Customer Name Country Region Model Engine Delivery Date Total
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 28-Sep-1998 1
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 29-Sep-1998 1
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 10-Nov-1998 1
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 19-Nov-1998 1
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 07-Dec-1998 1
Continental Airlines U.S.A. North America 777-200ER GE 08-Dec-1998 1
Total 6
Customer Name Country Region Model Engine Delivery Date Total
Customer: Continental Airlines
Model: 777
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
Newark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 33 Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3515 times:
SFO2SVO From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 392 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3211 times:
Any chance they will use 777 on the planned EWR-MOW route in 2006?
(MOW will be either DME or SVO)...
Bnatraveler From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 380 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3086 times:
Extremely unlikely. Their DOT application listed a 762 as well as specified DME as the airport they plan to use in MOW.
This will be an important route, however the 777 would be better utilized on other routes such as EWR-{PEK/PVG}.
26 The777Man: No problem, ContinentalEWR! Let's hope CO gets some more 777s for long-haul expansion and perhaps even 777-200LR. Merry Christmas! The777Man
27 ConcordeBoy: . LAX-LGW would be crushed by UA, AA, BA, and VS all operating to Heathrow. NZ does decent traffic on the route as well. and perhaps even 777-200LR. L