Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4308 posts, RR: 22 Posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5548 times:
From another board:
9N . FOLLOWING IS A LIST OF ATA CITIES THAT WILL BE
10N . CANCELLED EFFECTIVE 12/26/04. NEXT TO THE CITY
11N . IS THE LAST DAY OF OPERATION FOR THAT CITY.
12N . IF YOU RECEIVE CALLS INQUIRING ABOUT THESE CITIES
13N . PLEASE ADVISE CUSTOMERS THEY ARE ENTITLED TO A FULL
14N . REFUND. IF THEY DO NOT WANT THE REFUND YOU AND OLD: Guangzhou - Baiyun (CAN / ZGGG) (closed), China">CAN
15N . ADVISE THEM WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON OTHER
16N . AIRLINE PROTECTION AND WILL BE IN CONTACT WITH‡
17N . THEM. IF CUSTOMERS ARE TRAVELING FEBRUARY 16TH
18N . AND BEYOND OUR FIRST OPTION TO THEM SHOULD BE
19N . A FULL REFUND.
20N . CITY LAST DAY OF OPERATION
21N . PHL-MDW 1/10/05
22N . MLI-MDW 1/09/05
23N . TOL-MDW 1/04/05
24N . FWA-MDW 1/14/05
25N . MKE-MDW 1/14/05
26N . SBN-MDW 1/14/05
27N . DAY-MDW 1/30/05
28N . DAY-IND 1/11/05
Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
Skyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4857 times:
I haven't heard anything about DAY closing......yet. The IND schedules are already blocked out...no surprise there. Not sure of anything with the MDW flights....wouldn't be surprised either way. Thank GOD I have a college degree and another job!!!!!!
Skyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4825 times:
Oh BTW Dayflyer.....
We(C8) use gate C3 here in DAY....which to be nice is a piece o' crap. Conti Express has pushed us into a little cubby hole and now the airport is ripping up the pavement as well. If FL wants more gate space they can have it along the backside of Concourse C....specifically the gate being vacted by Indy Air.
Usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3236 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4820 times:
no surprise with PHL. WN already announced an additional flt MDW-PHL a few weeks ago, wonder if they will add another flt or two. They will be the only airline to fly MDW-PHL. On top of that UA just dropped i believe 4 flts ORD-PHL
Tango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3777 posts, RR: 30 Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4144 times:
Aside from PHL, are these all C8 cities?
Correct you are. It is common practice on this forum to see regional codeshare partners of a real airline misidentified as the real airline. Perhaps the FAA will someday step in and impose 5-figure fines on posters who fail to disclose the real airline of which they speak Such fines have actually been paid by the legacies when their agents failed to disclose to callers the actual airline operating flights in cases where the airline is other than the one to whose agent the caller is speaking.
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 12 Reply 17, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3900 times:
I guess I'll have to make new arrangements. I was due for FWA-MDW-FLL on 1/18. Missed by 4 days. Return flight was going through IND. I guess I'll have to change my schedule and leave the night before through IND. Going through there on the 18th didn't get me to my meeting in time. Phooey!
Ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4308 posts, RR: 22 Reply 18, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3790 times:
Well considering ATAH owns ATA and Chicago Express...I could have just said ATAH closes them since both of their airlines are closing cities. However, I dont think any of us will be shocked if C8 just turns into ATA Connection and the Chicago Express name is finally retired after over 10 years. So in other words...BLAH.
Oh well...maybe another airline will come in and start regional flights to Chicago to bring low fares to markets dominated by the majors or with no service at all.
Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
Unitedkatw From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 54 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (8 years 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3547 times:
I don't blame ATA for getting out of MKE. Every person who flies out of MKE uses either Midwest Airlines for Northwest Airlines. But I prefer using United Express connection to DEN. DEN is less crowded than ORD or MSP.
Flyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1948 posts, RR: 10 Reply 20, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3249 times:
Skyway1 (Chris) - Sorry to hear about your station closing also. I find it kind of wierd that they decide to kill it after it was announced and seemed like it was a pretty good idea. I'm really confused as to what the big whigs are doing down in IND. First they said they were committed to the C8 operation, now they are axing everything. Something fishy has gone on in the past week down in IND. I know that they had a marketing meeting a week ago today and from what I had been hearing things were looking up for C8. But, I stress BUT, I think C8 was blindsided because I have been *hearing* that they are parking 1 plane for sure, and up to 7 more aircraft leaving only 10 to run the operation. IMOO, I think all companies would have been better off with the AirTran deal. C8 already had a schedule in place with both ATA and FL ready for the quick transition. Like a friend of mine said, C8 isn't going to be needed any more because WN is now going to feed the ATA flights where the most money will be made. But what I don't get, why not sell C8 off? If they are going to take the charge on parking the aircraft and laying off the employees, why not sell it off to raise money? I don't see the C8 flights making as much money as I think the company is worth.
I'm just an armchair ceo *snickers* but I just have to really question what they are doing down there in IND. Even when I was working for C8, I questioned some of the irrational (IMO) decisions they were making. Good luck to all of the C8 employees that are going to be affected. Even though I am not with the company, I still feel a part of the family because the people were so wonderful and fun. Good luck to you all!
Flyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1948 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3045 times:
Hopefully rebook on another airline. I have heard it being that far out they will just offer a full refund...but I would hope they would just bite the bullet and rebook on another airline. From what I hear...a lot of the flights in Feb were quite full and a lot of people already had booked on them...a lot of unhappy campers.
Skyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2801 times:
You know it's funny.....all the employees know they're toast and still the two morons in charge at C8(the employees know who they are) won't breathe a word to any of us. Our lead agent contacted one "said" person and he stated "as of that day we are still operating DAY flights." It's all amusing really, but I do feel bad because I have a few co-workers that have children and a house payment to make. I do have fun working here part-time...but it's time to move on so I really don't feel that terrible about it.
I have heard the same rumors you have.....at least dropping to 10 aircraft....laying off F/A's and ALL the F/O's. Why not get rid of the whole operation, seems logical to do that than what they have planned. I know one thing for sure.....George is a shrewd businessman who has managed to hold on to his precious little airline.
Good luck to you all in the future!
25 Smcmac32msn: Anybody notice that MSN wasn't part of the list? Kinda suprising. May as well axe it all at the same time and just kill off everybody at once.
26 Wmupilot: When I worked there MKE was always outpreforming GRR when it came to passenger numbers. It's suprising to still see GRR on the list. Then again the ma
27 Flyinryan99: Smcmac32msn - Actually MSN was on the first list to go along with DSM. I think that GRR and FNT are there for a few reasons. FNT mostly because there
28 Wmupilot: Thanx Ryan, I heard about it after the fact. I just laughed. I still talk with GRR on company frequency when i am up flying. There are some great empl
29 Dayflyer: Skyway1 Yes I know where that gate is, I have flown the Chicago connection service before and I agree the gate is a waste of time and space. Perhaps o
30 B757capt: Can we get a recap. What cities have been lost by C8? ok now which cities have been added? Now what Cities lost by ATA? What Cities added by ATA? What
31 Flyinryan99: Ok...here goes it! Cities C8 is closing: TOL, DAY, SPI, MKE, MLI, MSN, DSM Cities C8 is adding: EVV, GYY (2 more to come, possibly 3) Cities ATA is cl
32 Mkeflyer717: OK, let me get this straight, C8 is not closing MKE completely? They are still keeping the recently announced MKE-IND 3 dailies right? If so I don't r