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ATA Closing PHL, MLI, TOL, MKE, DAY  
User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4599 posts, RR: 22
Posted (9 years 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 5819 times:

From another board:

9N . FOLLOWING IS A LIST OF ATA CITIES THAT WILL BE
10N . CANCELLED EFFECTIVE 12/26/04. NEXT TO THE CITY
11N . IS THE LAST DAY OF OPERATION FOR THAT CITY.
12N . IF YOU RECEIVE CALLS INQUIRING ABOUT THESE CITIES
13N . PLEASE ADVISE CUSTOMERS THEY ARE ENTITLED TO A FULL
14N . REFUND. IF THEY DO NOT WANT THE REFUND YOU AND OLD: Guangzhou - Baiyun (CAN / ZGGG) (closed), China">CAN
15N . ADVISE THEM WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON OTHER
16N . AIRLINE PROTECTION AND WILL BE IN CONTACT WITH‡
17N . THEM. IF CUSTOMERS ARE TRAVELING FEBRUARY 16TH
18N . AND BEYOND OUR FIRST OPTION TO THEM SHOULD BE
19N . A FULL REFUND.
20N . CITY LAST DAY OF OPERATION
21N . PHL-MDW 1/10/05
22N . MLI-MDW 1/09/05
23N . TOL-MDW 1/04/05
24N . FWA-MDW 1/14/05
25N . MKE-MDW 1/14/05
26N . SBN-MDW 1/14/05
27N . DAY-MDW 1/30/05
28N . DAY-IND 1/11/05

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User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 5780 times:

PHL-MDW is completely understandable...that will definently be an ATA/WN codeshare flight.

User currently offlineNavairjax From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 5708 times:

Aside from PHL, are these all C8 cities?

User currently offlineSwadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 20 hours ago) and read 5700 times:

If this is indeed true, my MDW theory about C8 is blown out of the water..



Maintain 2300 until Boiler, cleared for the VOR-A approach, report BATLE inbound..
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 5643 times:

Don;t see MKE on that list so the header for the post is a little incorrect.


Sean from MCO and MKE



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4599 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 19 hours ago) and read 5629 times:

Sean:

25N . MKE-MDW 1/14/05

Besides PHL, the rest are all C8 cities.


User currently offlineDayflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 5490 times:

As I predicted ATA service to DAY is terminating. Too close to IND and Southwest already services CMH. Well, I guess we will have gate space available now for more FL flights.


One Nation Under God
User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 5471 times:

So what is left for Chicago Express? I always thought they were quite an airline.

GreatChecko



"A pilot's plane she is. She will love you if you deserve it, and try to kill you if you don't...She is the Mighty Q400"
User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2444 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 5358 times:

SBN is a surprise since it's C8's MX base (still?) What's left for C8 out of MDW? Appears to be GRR and FNT - guess it's only a matter of time and they'll be gone in these two markets too.....  Sad

C8 route map:






Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineSyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2032 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 7 hours ago) and read 5133 times:
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C8 is also starting service from SBN, FWA, and Evansville to IND, possibly some other locations, so that may have something to do with it. But I was definately not expecting this.

tjwgrr: SBN is still the MX base for C8, does anyone know what might happen with this now?

-Charlie


User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 7 hours ago) and read 5128 times:

I haven't heard anything about DAY closing......yet. The IND schedules are already blocked out...no surprise there. Not sure of anything with the MDW flights....wouldn't be surprised either way. Thank GOD I have a college degree and another job!!!!!!

Chris


User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 7 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

Oh BTW Dayflyer.....

We(C8) use gate C3 here in DAY....which to be nice is a piece o' crap. Conti Express has pushed us into a little cubby hole and now the airport is ripping up the pavement as well. If FL wants more gate space they can have it along the backside of Concourse C....specifically the gate being vacted by Indy Air.

Chris


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3404 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 7 hours ago) and read 5091 times:

no surprise with PHL. WN already announced an additional flt MDW-PHL a few weeks ago, wonder if they will add another flt or two. They will be the only airline to fly MDW-PHL. On top of that UA just dropped i believe 4 flts ORD-PHL

User currently offlineRjnut From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 4845 times:

Is it pretty safe to assume C8 is history!!??

User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4599 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 5 hours ago) and read 4801 times:

I think they can change the name now...but I guess they are another Great Lakes. Their name really means nothing now.  Smile

User currently offlineJalto27R From United States of America, joined May 2004, 857 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 2 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

Wow. I guess my sister will be on ATA's last flight of PHL, as she leaves on the 10th. What a coincidence.

Mike


User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 2 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

Aside from PHL, are these all C8 cities?

Correct you are. It is common practice on this forum to see regional codeshare partners of a real airline misidentified as the real airline. Perhaps the FAA will someday step in and impose 5-figure fines on posters who fail to disclose the real airline of which they speak Big grin Such fines have actually been paid by the legacies when their agents failed to disclose to callers the actual airline operating flights in cases where the airline is other than the one to whose agent the caller is speaking.


User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4171 times:

I guess I'll have to make new arrangements. I was due for FWA-MDW-FLL on 1/18. Missed by 4 days. Return flight was going through IND. I guess I'll have to change my schedule and leave the night before through IND. Going through there on the 18th didn't get me to my meeting in time. Phooey!


"Shaddap you!"
User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4599 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4061 times:

Well considering ATAH owns ATA and Chicago Express...I could have just said ATAH closes them since both of their airlines are closing cities. However, I dont think any of us will be shocked if C8 just turns into ATA Connection and the Chicago Express name is finally retired after over 10 years. So in other words...BLAH.  Smile

Oh well...maybe another airline will come in and start regional flights to Chicago to bring low fares to markets dominated by the majors or with no service at all.


User currently offlineUnitedkatw From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3818 times:

I don't blame ATA for getting out of MKE. Every person who flies out of MKE uses either Midwest Airlines for Northwest Airlines. But I prefer using United Express connection to DEN. DEN is less crowded than ORD or MSP.

User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2004 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3520 times:

Skyway1 (Chris) - Sorry to hear about your station closing also. I find it kind of wierd that they decide to kill it after it was announced and seemed like it was a pretty good idea. I'm really confused as to what the big whigs are doing down in IND. First they said they were committed to the C8 operation, now they are axing everything. Something fishy has gone on in the past week down in IND. I know that they had a marketing meeting a week ago today and from what I had been hearing things were looking up for C8. But, I stress BUT, I think C8 was blindsided because I have been *hearing* that they are parking 1 plane for sure, and up to 7 more aircraft leaving only 10 to run the operation. IMOO, I think all companies would have been better off with the AirTran deal. C8 already had a schedule in place with both ATA and FL ready for the quick transition. Like a friend of mine said, C8 isn't going to be needed any more because WN is now going to feed the ATA flights where the most money will be made. But what I don't get, why not sell C8 off? If they are going to take the charge on parking the aircraft and laying off the employees, why not sell it off to raise money? I don't see the C8 flights making as much money as I think the company is worth.

I'm just an armchair ceo *snickers* but I just have to really question what they are doing down there in IND. Even when I was working for C8, I questioned some of the irrational (IMO) decisions they were making. Good luck to all of the C8 employees that are going to be affected. Even though I am not with the company, I still feel a part of the family because the people were so wonderful and fun. Good luck to you all!

Ryan


User currently offlineWillbdsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

Uh oh, my friend is flying SRQ-MDW-TOL in March on TZ and C8. I guess she is going to have to call ATA and figure something out. What would ATA do in this case?


User currently offlineAmtrakGuy From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

Sounds like ATA's DCA-MDW is okay -- code sharing with Southwest I think.
Dave


User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2004 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3316 times:

Hopefully rebook on another airline. I have heard it being that far out they will just offer a full refund...but I would hope they would just bite the bullet and rebook on another airline. From what I hear...a lot of the flights in Feb were quite full and a lot of people already had booked on them...a lot of unhappy campers.

Ryan


User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 3072 times:

Hey Ryan.....

You know it's funny.....all the employees know they're toast and still the two morons in charge at C8(the employees know who they are) won't breathe a word to any of us. Our lead agent contacted one "said" person and he stated "as of that day we are still operating DAY flights." It's all amusing really, but I do feel bad because I have a few co-workers that have children and a house payment to make. I do have fun working here part-time...but it's time to move on so I really don't feel that terrible about it.

I have heard the same rumors you have.....at least dropping to 10 aircraft....laying off F/A's and ALL the F/O's. Why not get rid of the whole operation, seems logical to do that than what they have planned. I know one thing for sure.....George is a shrewd businessman who has managed to hold on to his precious little airline.

Good luck to you all in the future!

Chris


25 Post contains images Smcmac32msn : Anybody notice that MSN wasn't part of the list? Kinda suprising. May as well axe it all at the same time and just kill off everybody at once.
26 Wmupilot : When I worked there MKE was always outpreforming GRR when it came to passenger numbers. It's suprising to still see GRR on the list. Then again the ma
27 Post contains images Flyinryan99 : Smcmac32msn - Actually MSN was on the first list to go along with DSM. I think that GRR and FNT are there for a few reasons. FNT mostly because there
28 Wmupilot : Thanx Ryan, I heard about it after the fact. I just laughed. I still talk with GRR on company frequency when i am up flying. There are some great empl
29 Post contains images Dayflyer : Skyway1 Yes I know where that gate is, I have flown the Chicago connection service before and I agree the gate is a waste of time and space. Perhaps o
30 B757capt : Can we get a recap. What cities have been lost by C8? ok now which cities have been added? Now what Cities lost by ATA? What Cities added by ATA? What
31 Flyinryan99 : Ok...here goes it! Cities C8 is closing: TOL, DAY, SPI, MKE, MLI, MSN, DSM Cities C8 is adding: EVV, GYY (2 more to come, possibly 3) Cities ATA is cl
32 Mkeflyer717 : OK, let me get this straight, C8 is not closing MKE completely? They are still keeping the recently announced MKE-IND 3 dailies right? If so I don't r
33 Post contains images Iowaman : CID also lost C8 last summer.
34 Post contains links Wmupilot : MKE is not closing completely. They will still have the flights to IND for the time being. ATA announced the routes when they announced the new cities
35 PHLBOS : Is there any chance of C8 relocating their hub to IND to become Indy Express or just plain ATA Connection?
36 Wmupilot : That is what it looks like they are doing. Only GRR and FNT have flights to MDW.
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