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US Airways Sickout Yesterday.  
User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1016 posts, RR: 6
Posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 12391 times:

Looks like the shoe finally dropped as word has it from the pilots that US flight attendants did a sick out in PHL and when word got to their ramp, they staged one too. I mainly know this because two of their 757s MCO-PHL apparently wound up timing out waiting for additional crewmembers and advising the passengers that the flight was cancelled due to legality and all passengers would need to deplane and claim their baggage at the carosel. Of all the days...a christmas holiday. I would say the proverbial tombstone is now written, if not already before.

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User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 12313 times:

The employees are driving nails into their own coffin.  Sad

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 12315 times:

Bad call . . .

See why I wouldn't buy tix on US right now . . .



User currently offlineJetMechMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 380 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 12295 times:

Yep, and about this time next year when US Airways finally throws in the towel, they will be crying about the cold heartless company that threw them out into the streets at Christmas time.


"I get along great with nobody"~ Billy Idol
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 12295 times:

I wish this terrible airline would just GO! Do the right thing already! Instead of making pax lives miserable just fold. Do them and the industry a favor. US can't compete with any other airline and has the worst issues with capital and it's employees. Why fight this?

User currently offlineGlideslope From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 12231 times:


Another good example why Unions Suck. Do they really think it's still 1974?



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User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 12175 times:

I was looking for tickets for my family for travel to Florida next week and even though USAirways was the cheapest, I still didn't buy tickets on them, specifically for these kinds of circumstances.


Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 12159 times:

That's disgraceful. You have an agreement in place with the company, and yet you still stage a sickout? Could somebody please throw Patricia Friend into a river?


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User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 12076 times:

I tell you whats terrible about this...not only was it a sickout (ok, I can understand the anger, so at certain times, a sickout could work)...BUT it's the Christmas holiday season, your flights are full! Plus, your still recovering from the winter storms, so everyones tempers are very high.


I can only imagine that family going to PHX to visit their grandma for the first time and spend Christmas with them...they don't buy a tree, and go to the airport, get on the plane, only to be told they have to go home and try again tomorrow.


User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1606 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 12051 times:

Merry Christmas to all!

Unfortunately, this is an example of SOME employees in a company who take matters into their own hands to rectify a situation that they cannot.

It makes THEM look bad.

I hope that when they start throwing the axe around again, the group of employees who first started this are the ones who go first.

Plain and simple. Enjoy the Unemployment line folks.

1011yyz



Pack your bags, we're going on a sympathy trip!
User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 12052 times:

Flairport-not really. I flew yesterday, and although my PBI-CLT flight was relatively close to full (after several cancellations out of PBI, including one to CLT and one to DCA), I can say that my CLT-LGA flight (a 319) was only about half-full, and many of those were Delta FIMs off of a series of cancelled CAE-LGA Comair flights (apparently every flight along the route has been cancelled since Thursday morning)


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User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 12033 times:

Ok, to take a different perspective....not necessarily mine but we should give it a thought.....how about PASSENGERS showing the Xmas spirit and be willing to pay about $100 more for a ticket so that the airlines can pay a living wage to their employees??? Maybe even $50 a ticket would eliminate the need for pay and benefit cuts?

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 12017 times:

How about this approach Bicoastal, airlines charging what they need to cover costs! No one ever said that they had to match the LCC's penny for penny! Also if the so called full service majors offer the exact same thing as a LCC's then why pay more for less.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 11988 times:

Let alone the impact to the customers this had the impact to fellow employee's was as bad if not worse. Remember the future hub in FLL? One agent doing bag service on xmas eve and over 500 bags on the floor with about 40-50 pax in line to file for missing bags....while the 'sick' employee's were home.

User currently offlineKen4556 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 11951 times:

Bicoastal,

"Ok, to take a different perspective....not necessarily mine but we should give it a thought.....how about PASSENGERS showing the Xmas spirit and be willing to pay about $100 more for a ticket so that the airlines can pay a living wage to their employees??? Maybe even $50 a ticket would eliminate the need for pay and benefit cuts?"

You bring-up a good point, but if the airlines are willing to sell tickets below cost, why is it the consumers responsiblity to pay more then the airline is asking? At some point, the airlines have to raise prices to cover costs. Just like any other company, if they cannot change what the market will bear, then they need to go out of business. I believe one or two airlines need to shut down to get capacity down in order to let prices raise for the airlines to cover costs.

Merry Christmas all.

Ken4558


User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 24
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11932 times:

Lets see....sell tickets(seats actually) just to cover costs...don't have to match the LLC. That's great except for one little thing. You are there to make a profit. You are there for investors....stockholders. If you stock is not a mover and you aren't making money, you dump the stock. Now where is any public corp going to be without stockholders? Extinct, that's where.

FUTUREFO..Please explain your post. Much on these threads are opinions.
safe



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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11836 times:

Its that if your pro-union or anti-union it really should not be stated so emphatically in the boards. I am stating my opinion as well.


Sean from MCO and MKE



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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7438 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11819 times:
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Another one bites the dust.

Disgraceful on the part of US AIR. I dont care of hte ensuing evolution of hte conversation about oay benefits, etc.

THere is a time and place for everything and these people failed to acknowledge that.



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User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11819 times:

To continue the discussion, it seems that passengers are unwilling to pay more. The Internet has made comparison shopping so much easier and consumers are very price sensitive when buying airline tickets. So if an airline did decide to cover its costs with appropriate ticket prices, they'd likely be flying emptier aircraft and then having to charge even more to cover the costs of those empty seats. Look at the attempts to add a fuel surcharge, for example. Even a $5 or $10 difference seemed to turn passengers to lower priced competitors and the airlines that added the fee, then backed off.

I think the flying public neither cares nor is willing to show solidarity with the union folks at the airlines. Passengers are trying to stretch a buck, too, and need to make choices according to their own budgets.



User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1424 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11767 times:

I had a friend traveling ILM-CLT-BDL on the 23rd. His CLT-BDL flt cxld due to what the agents told him was about a 200 flight attendant sick-out. He was re-routed to DCA, spent the night there...then had to fly DCA-PHL-BDL to finally get to BDL 20 hours later. Congratulations, he'll never fly USAir again.

Now I logon this morning and see a press release about how thousands of USAir pax are missing their bags and the FAA is to investigate. I guess the Ramp decided to join the sickout.

http://www.wral.com/travelgetaways/4024153/detail.html

Merry Christmas USAir employees. I would say I wish you all the best, but you're future is in your own hands. It appears you want your company to fail; so be it.




Sometimes we don't realize the good times when we're in them
User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1896 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11719 times:

what better way to draw attention to your plight than to do protest at peak travel. There are two sides to every story kids.

Managments job, if the airline is to survive, is to make cuts. Everywhere.

I think everyone understands that, and most workers have accepted that.
Obviously though, this simply highlights managment failure to align employee compensation to company results, etc etc.

Has managament taken a BIGGER % cut than the front line employees? It's not the dollar figure that's significant, it's the symbolism. Is the CEO on the front line talking to employees, showing how hard he's working for them?

Managment hasn't sold it's biggest asset, it's employees, on the plan they ALL need to follow to save the airline. Managment sets the tone in even the most dire circumstances. There is obvious failure here to do anything like that.

George



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User currently offlineAa717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11691 times:

Nothing happens in a vaccum. The seeds of this sickout were planted years ago.

Yes, the FA's have an agreement. A CBA is in place and a T/A to amend the CBA has been reached by the union leadership.

The agreement the FA's have been working under has been under attack by management. Management will use every tactic and loophole to get around the CBA as they see fit.

Right now, unionized airline employees have their backs to the wall. Management has figured a way to circumvent the Railway Labor Act via the bankruptcy courts. No, an airline will not be put into bankruptcy ONLY to void the contracts, but the CBA's are a target of opportunity once a carrier is in Ch. 11.

As a former union airline employee, I understand the USAir employee's frustration. There is no way to win. Management keeps pricing their tickets lower than they cost and labor won't simply sign away contracts won over decades of legitimate negotiations. The reason they won't simply adopt JetBlue's or SWA's workrules is that they don't trust management to squander their contributions.

The unions are warranted in that belief. They watched Schofield pi$$ away money on mergers. They watched Stephen "Don't call me Steve" Wolf and "Gang-rape" get rich with the UAL merger Trojan Horse and now, the employees are expected to pay for it.

It may be the wrong way to go about it but it is certainly understandable.TC

P.S.--If you are on this board and bought a ticket on USAir this Holiday season or allowed friends or family to do so without warning them, you are culpable, too. There were plenty of signs. JMO.



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User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11483 times:

"it seems that passengers are unwilling to pay more."

That is simply not the case, American has tried several times now to raise fares only to drop them back down when other legacy carriers do not follow. A fare hike straight across the board would help all airlines!! I would glady pay 20% more for the flights I have been taking to help the airlines stabilize themselves. If all airlines do it straight across the board, the penny pinching consumer will have no choice but to pay the increased fares.

As for US, with this latest sickout that was done yesterday, may they quickly go under. I will look forward to reading about their demise and the struggles the employees involved in yesterdays sickout have in finding another job. The fact is you are paid to do a job and you failed yesterday!! And do not think with the demise of US, that AA,DL,CO,UA and the others will jump at the chance to hire you as they will finally be able to bring their furloughed employees back.



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User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4947 posts, RR: 28
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11453 times:

I saw the news, and PHL is a disaster right now. The news said that cancelled flights have left luggage everywhere. The picture shown was absolutely sad. The whole baggage claim was covered in every square inch of bags. They were piled in moutains too. They said it was a result of the weather problems. Any US Airways employees sure this was a result of a sickout? I seriously doubt it was, but then again it might have.


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User currently offlineGreenguy01 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 11442 times:

I was just watching MSNBC and they had on the news ticker that USAir is operation luggage only flights to CLT to get the misplaced luggage to the right destination. They are doing a FedEx style sort in CLT. What a mess!

If the employees of USAir really want their airline to survive, this is not a good way to do it. Think about all of the negative press that USAir is going to receive from this and all of the customers that they have potentially lost.



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25 Av8trxx : From USaviation.com- "Just some claim numbers as of 10pm on Dec 24th. The first number is open claims and the second number is actual bags missing: TP
26 Supa7E7 : Is there any REAL info here??? The original post mentioned 2 flights that cancelled yesterday. US operates around 2,300 flights a day, so 2 flights is
27 QuestAir : On the one hand, I realize the fact that US employees want more pay, etc. But don't they see that these sickouts and such will be, overall, more detri
28 Supa7E7 : What is the source of the "sickout" rumor? Is there a source? Or evidence?
29 Flyibaby : Supa7E7, Good point. I can only say what I saw here in MCO, however if there is positive news of a sick out, that would mean the Unions would be respo
30 Flyibaby : The source is the greater orlando aviation authority when they were told by US Airways representatives.
31 Hiflyer : Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Hundreds of US Airways employees called in sick yesterday and today, according to a local flight attendants representative, a
32 Annoyedfa : Well maybe they wanted to be home for the Holidays just like everyone else did. So they just called out. Airways is at minimum staffing for FAS and du
33 Flyibaby : Just found out from a US pilot that the sick action aka "Chaos Strike" whas actually approved by a judge; so apparently this is a legal work action.
34 Post contains images Hiflyer : Well if that is the case then we should arrange a meeting with Patricia Friend at AFA and Charles Bryan...ex EAL IAM. They can compare notes....
35 SHUPirate1 : Flyibaby-You cannot tell me that they should be going on strike, or, if you will, performing CHAOS while they are in the process of VOTING ON A CONTRA
36 Flyibaby : SHUPirate1, Just the messenger dude. I personally don't think it should be legal, but they did warn of this as far back as Thanksgiving. Trust me, I'm
37 SHUPirate1 : Flyibaby-I'm not sticking up for them at all, and I also would bet the last dollar I have that this was organized "self-help", if you will. Fortunatel
38 Post contains images Annoyedfa : Strike, Strike Strike!!!!!
39 Flyibaby : SHUPirate1, Point taken and agreed. And your delay/cancellation tells me that they are playing with their DOT performance numbers from what should be
40 Tango-Bravo : The employees are driving nails into their own coffin. So what? Assuming, for argument's sake, that this is true, what have they got left to lose? Whe
41 JetMechMD80 : then what is left to lose except for empty promises from management who has zero credibility? What little income they have left, maybe? But hey, its n
42 SWA TPA : I heard via a US Airways ramper that they did the sick out because US Airways is threatening to bring in contract workers for all the ramp jobs except
43 RyanAFAMSP : Again I don't see any info anywhere here that there was any sort of organized sickout. The only official comment reference on this entire thread was o
44 Spinkid : News organizations are reporting a sick out yesterday in PHL, saying something like 240 workers were not present. Anyone in any industry can tell you
45 RyanAFAMSP : Yeah I know there was a lot of baggage piled up, but there was a blizzard that wiped out the entire lower midwest. Everyone loves to accuse workers of
46 ODwyerPW : Fire them all. You don't stage a sick out on your company's busiest day. That's sabotaging your company and no way to behave. These aren't the middle
47 M404 : The USAir rep quoted in the article says they did not think this was an organized union action. We have to dilute that with the thought that if it was
48 NIKV69 : Don't these US employees realize that the only way for their airline to survive is to work for absolutely nothing? There is no other way, this is why
49 Flyibaby : M404, You make some very vaild points. I completely understand weather piling up. Anyone who has ever been involved in any aspect of a Chicago operati
50 Flyibaby : Ryanafamsp: I have made all my sources known, and all this is first hand from credible sources, not the sarcastic mumbo jumbo you describe. Not to fre
51 Accidentally : Ugh...I'm flying them Tuesday. Hope everything goes smoothly. -Cory
52 Boeing nut : Sickouts are stupid because they are counter productive. If you are unhappy with something, strike. This for sure will cost the company money which ge
53 ATLhomeCMH : Yes, M404's points are worth exploring. It's still unclear (and seems more unlikely) if this was a union call-off...the union reps say that they didn'
54 F9Animal : This is showing a bad impression of what US has left. US Airways has threatened to pull the Rampers, and bring in a contract company. This will happen
55 Post contains links Sidishus : When it comes to this style job action, the Union must disavow any knowledge. Remember what happend to APA after the AAL pilot "virus"... http://www.b
56 Isitsafenow : Sickout...weather...no matter how you label the mess, it did nothing good to USAirways bottom line. I stick to my guns. Its turn out the lights on or
57 JetMechMD80 : Most importantly, many of the old timers there have very few other skills. How would a 30 year veteran ramper get on with a new career? What skills do
58 F9Animal : Why should US Airways have to pay $50,000 a year to an employee with limited skills ether? Can you see this is the root of the problem? Blame it on in
59 ERJ170 : $20.00 an hour would not even bring in $42,000.00 a year. Let me just say, there are a lot of jobs out there that require just as much hard work that
60 US653 : I happened to be listening to PHL tower that night. They were having MAJOR backups due to lack of gates. I didn't even think about the possibility of
61 ERJ170 : I still think US could perhaps work their way out of this by getting the BK judge to get those 350 individuals permanently released from the company.
62 JetMechMD80 : F9Animal, No one is saying that you or anyone else does not work hard. But come on do you think that you guys are the only ones? Do flight attendants
63 TrappedInMKG : Yeah, cuz wanting a decent wage and decent healthcare in an industry where they are increasingly difficult to find, competent management that respects
64 AirbusDriver : People want to pay 99 Bucks Coast to Coast and want new aircraft, clean aircraft, good service, friendly pilot, safety, on time and luggage to get the
65 F9Animal : Edited because I saw ERJ170's post after posting. ERJ170, I was talking on behalf of the rampers. I too understand that any other profession is beyond
66 Gkpetery : I think the sickout was plain stupid. As a frequent flier, I now would NEVER book my flight on US. Why would I? And take the chance of getting stuck a
67 Cancidas : seriously now, some of us have come to expect this from PHL.
68 F9Animal : Thanks for the kind words about F9 Jetmech. It is a great airline, with a bright future. I don't make $40K a year, or even close! But I can tell you t
69 F9Animal : I think the sickout was plain stupid. As a frequent flier, I now would NEVER book my flight on US. Why would I? And take the chance of getting stuck a
70 APFPilot1985 : Airbusdriver explain B6 then
71 Willbdsp : Didn't a baggage problem occur at PHL a few summers ago because the baggage handling system itself (not the employees) had problems?? It was reported
72 Tripseven : Man, this is just terrible. This is all over the web front page of New York Times, CNN, everything. I'm a salaried employee at US Airways HQ and am re
73 JetMechMD80 : F9Animal, I have been at LAS about 5 years. I was in GSO before that.
74 777ER : The employees are driving nails into their own coffin. Whats new? As far as I'm concerned the employees and management have been driving the nails in
75 Post contains images 777ER : A judge approved of this action? What judge in their right mind would approve of this action over the festive season
76 Unitedkatw : Stupid employees. If they want their airline to survive, they need to stop doing stupid stuff like this. I was hoping for US to survive for the employ
77 Delta767300ER : From the US Airways website: "We sincerely apologize for the operational disruptions that have impacted holiday travel. Our efforts to recover from th
78 Frjmx328 : You all are clueless. Go watch another episode of airline. IAM and AFA have my total support. Don't like unions, fly Jet Blue.
79 ANCFlyer : Frjmx328 You all are clueless. Don't surmise that you know my mental state, you don't even know me. Where did you spend your Holiday? On the floor at
80 Ltbewr : This was a disaster waiting to happen, many of us here saw it coming for many months from a number of threads as to the situation at US Airways, inclu
81 JetMechMD80 : You all are clueless. Frjmx328, Don't just post something like this and run, you are giving A&P's a bad name. Why don't you tell us why we are clueles
82 Post contains images Qxq400 : Why would anyone in this day in age stage a sick out? What ever happened to taking care of your passengers? If your airline treats you so bad then qui
83 Mirrodie : I just searched CNN and there was no news of hte sickout. Where are there links about it to reputable news sources?
84 ANCFlyer : I just watched morning CNN here in Alaska at the "sickout" was mentioned, but wasn't called as such - rather they said "An unusually large number of b
85 NIKV69 : I am glad some of you are coming to your senses about this God forsaken airline. As a PR ploy they are not admitting it was a sick out and saying this
86 Post contains links Luv2fly : Here is a link I hope it helps. http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2004-12-25-holiday-travel-woes_x.htm
87 TonyBurr : Frjmx328 When you said "Don't like unions, fly Jet Blue.'" I think you made your point VERY WELL!!! The non union airlines ARE flying, and very well a
88 Hiflyer : IMHO Pat Friend at AFA has done more to ensure elimination of unions on the aviation property than Frank Lorenzo. After 4 years and a reelection the v
89 Annoyedfa : It still amazes me that half of you who don't work for a airline have the baIIs to even make a comment on any situation. This was the perfect time for
90 Sebring : Frjmx328 When you said "Don't like unions, fly Jet Blue.'" I think you made your point VERY WELL!!! The non union airlines ARE flying, and very well a
91 Post contains images Flyguyclt : SEBRING: BRAVO to your very intelligent (in my opinion) post. Yes, indeed even though aviation folks have a job to do. Airline employees are in fact t
92 Wbmech : Sick calls generally go way up around holiday time. Some workers feel that being with family is more important than their job. Now add in wage and ben
93 MaverickM11 : This airlines needs to die already. The acrimony has made any kind of rapprochement impossible, especially when the unions continue their self destruc
94 Post contains images Bruce : Regarding the post above, with the copy/paste from US's website. I like this quote: when some of our employees chose to call in sick at record numbers
95 MaverickM11 : When I worked for USAirways (one of my favorite jobs ever btw) I could have sworn that you had to have a doctor's note if you called in sick. Maybe th
96 747firstclass : I am seriously doubting if US will even survive to mid January. Advance bookins will do a major noseidive after this absolute fiasco, making survival
97 KITH : I am currently sitting in PHL @ the B Concourse and when my US EX flight from ITH came in 1hr ago, we had to wait 25min to get to a gate. THere are lu
98 Gkpetery : I remember what it was like to work for a company and other people trying to mess it up. TripSeven... sorry about what's been going on with you. I thi
99 Usdcaguy : Employee Satisfaction = Customer Satisfaction Try that for math.
100 BillElliott9 : I feel for all of the employees who have been working to overcome the obstacles of the past few days. Thanks for stepping up when others simply gave u
101 Isitsafenow : That was cute, USDCAGUY. I like this one: Customer dis-satifaction=extinct airline, with workers getting un-employment checks and former customers fly
102 EMBQA : The employees are driving nails into their own coffin So well said. You work for a company that is a heart beat away for being liquidated, the job mar
103 Jalto27R : When will the employees be getting back to work? My feelings are that if they are gonna stay out for two days, might as well stay out for the week, an
104 Laca773 : Yesterday was a very sad & tragic situation for US. It was very unprofessional for the FAs and rampers to behave in this manner but at the same time,
105 Post contains images NIKV69 : Annoyedfa, Oh ok, since you work for an airline you know what you are talking about? Well let's see what did this stunt from US accomplish? Nothing, U
106 SHUPirate1 : People-Can you please pray for me that US Airways survives at least until Saturday? I'm flying them both tommorrow and Friday, and I would hate to hav
107 Jalto27R : I have two friends coming in to PHL, one from Gatwick and one from Florida. I hope they get in ok. This is all a mess!!! I feel bad cause I promised t
108 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I promised that I'd help my friends with any airline problems. Maybe you ought to get a mapquest route to the nearest Wal-Mart so they can buy new st
109 Jalto27R : Sorry, but I thought I'd get a headsup from the forums, but I don't think anyone thought'd they strike now, especially after the negotiations worked o
110 Post contains images Aa717driver : WAH, WAH, WAH! I've had enough of this whiney bull$***! "Ooooh, we've got to get the FAA and the Government to look into this!?" The FAA can't find it
111 717-200 : I just walked down to the USAirways baggage claim at RDU. What a clusterf#@$!! hundreds of unclaimed bags sitting in the bag claim area and dozens of
112 SFOMEX : Aa717driver: You are almost right. Although I do have pity on the affected passengers, if somebody is to be blamed about this, those to be blamed are
113 777STL : "The employees are driving nails into their own coffin So well said. You work for a company that is a heart beat away for being liquidated, the job ma
114 Post contains links BIGBlack : Another article http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6754453/
115 Post contains images ANCFlyer : 777STL Afterall, it was US's management that drove them into the ground in the first place. In combination with the Unions for the employees that nego
116 Laca773 : Is there anyway for this thread to be forwarded to the so called "top level management" at US? I'd love for them to see this thread along with all the
117 MaverickM11 : " I'd love for them to see this thread along with all the other's so they can really read, see and feel what they have done to those who have kept the
118 Ultrapig : I agree that the unions have destroyed US A. but for a different reason. The unions are to a large extent a protection racket (not that there is anyth
119 Mariner : How does a union "force" management to pay high wages? A strike? A sick out? Management doesn't have to give in. It is the purpose of unions to get th
120 EA CO AS : I feel no sympathy for the flying public over this and what will surely come. You asked for it. I agree, actually. People may not realize it, but by c
121 Hr001 : "If you're going to blame someone for US's current predicament, don't blame the employees. Afterall, it was US's management that drove them into the g
122 MaverickM11 : "The unions are to a large extent a protection racket (not that there is anything wrong with that). " YES THERE IS! Everything is wrong with protectio
123 MaverickM11 : "You want cheap tickets? Fine, but you'll get cheap service and little protection when the worst that weather and man have to offer combine for a nega
124 Post contains images TACAA320 : Who pays for Unions stupidities? Passengers...
125 Slider : As usual, the emphasis is on placing blame. There's enough blame to go around. Trying to allocate it to varying degrees will only add to the brinksman
126 MaverickM11 : "There's enough blame to go around. Trying to allocate it to varying degrees will only add to the brinksmanship between management and labor that alre
127 F9Animal : I posted this on another US Airways thread. I thought it would be appropriate here too. How many faithful fliers will never return to that airline, be
128 Geg2rap : How about this for a comprimise, the management of US airways put the company in a position were a few hundred sickouts could take down the company? r
129 NIKV69 : Why are the unions taking all the heat here? The unions are only fighting for the employees. I mean when US got that big loan after 9/11 everyone knew
130 MaverickM11 : "The unions are only fighting for the employees." And they're doing it wrong. They've forgotten that the company EMPLOYS those employees, and when you
131 Slider : Mav- You'll get no argument from me man. I'm usually in the anti-union camp. I know they've done nothing constructive to help solve the problem. But b
132 ExFATBoy : Just had lunch with a travel agent friend - her agency will now book passengers on US only if they absolutely demand it, and hers isn't the only one.
133 Scseay : I completely agree with MaverickM11. The idea that raising awareness of this issue using this method and at this time is ludicrous at best. Some of yo
134 CTHEWORLD : F9Animal, While the ramper job may be tough work and underpayed, move on if you don't like it. That is the beauty of a free enterprise system, no one
135 NIKV69 : You all are forgetting the union does nothing unless the employees want them to. Most of the employees at US should know they can't be competitively p
136 MaverickM11 : "You all are forgetting the union does nothing unless the employees want them to" The employees have no clue whatsoever as to what the unions are doin
137 AAplatnumflier : My opinion on this is that it is strike three and they are at. I think this is the last straw for US Airways. The real question is when are they going
138 Post contains links Coa764 : Kick the can around all you want about the if the should have or have not.. Dec 24 Micheal Boyd was on Washington Journal (C-Span) and on the subject
139 F9Animal : While the ramper job may be tough work and underpayed, move on if you don't like it. That is the beauty of a free enterprise system, no one is forcing
140 Tom in NO : Kind of disappointing to walk through US's baggage claim area here at MSY a little while ago and see hundred's of unclaimed bags. And to also see nume
141 LegendDC9 : I think US has moved on from the "let's hope they make it" category to " I hope they shut down soon". With employees like that, who needs creditors? O
142 Hiflyer : US to Probe U.S. Airways, Comair Troubles Monday December 27, 5:45 pm ET By Jeremy Pelofsky WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. transportation officials on Mo
143 M404 : One thing is for sure, I will not be hiring any ex-US employees to join our team. if this is how they try to make a point to their company, they can g
144 Aa717driver : Great! Now the DOT is involved. Whaddya gonna do, Norman? You going to fire those bad people who are making your institution look bad? What a joke! Ei
145 B777ER : US Air management built the coffin and now the employees are helping carry it to the grave. Plain and simple. I would think that a funeral service sha
146 Post contains images Aa717driver : Scseay--No one is trying to say this is an attempt to attract passengers. Please don't take this as personal criticism but your statatement shows a la
147 Post contains images DCA-ROCguy : De-regulation as it has evolved has failed. You can't have a quasi-regulated business in a free-market economy. But the pax don't care as long as they
148 Aerofan : So where was management during this crisis? Were they out on the ramp trying to load and un load bags? Were they in the terminals fielding questions?
149 Dcbat2072 : What will happen at DCA is USAirways goes under? What will happen to all of their slots as well as their "commuter world?" Will the # of takeoffs and
150 Cloudboy : I was just reading on Yahoo News that the flight attendants union posted the number of attend who called in sick, and it was at or lower than it was l
151 Falcon84 : As a former union airline employee, I understand the USAir employee's frustration. There is no way to win. So they make every lose. How brilliant.....
152 Ual777contrail : Cloudboy, I heard the same thing. The F/A's actually had between 10-18 more sick calls this year. The same last year, and the year before. They said
153 KabAir : I really don't understand how anyone can defend the employees' actions (assuming the sick-out story is accurate). Although I do have a hard time getti
154 Aerofan : But it speaks loudly when employees no longer care enough- and do what was just done. Surely they were not always like this. I'm sure my colleagues at
155 KabAir : "I'm sure my colleagues at US do all want to provide good service to the public, but are hindered from doing this, in one form or another" Ahhh.... th
156 Baw716 : This is not a good situation for a number of reasons: 1) It is a PR nightmare for USAirways. First, they take the hit because of the employee shortage
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