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Air Sick Passengers...Scorn And Pity  
User currently offlineNealcg From United States of America, joined May 2004, 141 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5549 times:

After a relatively smooth post X-mas flight on AA from DFW to Sea we encountered some of the usual chop approaching SEA (overcast + winds over the cascades). Anyway 5 min before landing I hear right behind me the soothing sound of someone making use of an airsickness bag (I dont mean as a trash bag.)

As I noticed the tang of fresh vomit wiff my nostrils for the last moments of flight I could feel my emotions swinging from one extreme to another. First I was a little grossed out but then became very annoyed that someone did not have the courtesy of investing in a little Dramamine (or if really weak stomached prescription Meclazine) and sparing all of us the sights and sounds of a bodily event best left unseen, unheard, and unsmelt. It wasn't one of those in-flight rollar coasters where even the F/As look green but just a little appraoch turbulence.

However, I later found myself pitying this passenger who obviously felt miserable and embarrassed...

Note: This is the first time I seen an airsick pax on AA. All the other times it was WN and it was often.

Comments??

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User currently offlineXJRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2473 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5510 times:

you know, as they say "shit happens".

If people weren't meant to get sick onboard, they wouldn't have put those on there.

They could have had a bad pretzel or maybe they just ate too much before the flight or maybe they were drunker than a sailor. Either way people do get sick.

I would have originally gone with your "later I found..." statement right away.

XJR



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User currently offlineFoxiboy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 208 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5451 times:

Ever thought that the person may have a medical condition that prohibits him/her taking travel sickness medicines etc, i have a hernia,gastric reflux and gastritis and can only take certain medicines,there are many mant people out there who can not for one reason or another take certain types of medicines.

User currently offlineFlyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5450 times:

Are you sure of your age?

I mean, humans are human. We cannot control when we get sick. Where we get sick or how we get sick. As far as your AA to WN statement? We now know who you fly the most then. How are Earth could you be mad at someone who gets sick at the last minute? (Well, ok, if they were drunk, then yes, get mad.) Common is this what this web site is comming down too?

Safe Flying  Smile

PS. You do share this world with many people. Some who may on occasion vomit.
Your compassion for your fellow humans is overwhelming by tway.

[Edited 2004-12-27 09:45:52]
After looking at your profile, I see you miss BRANIFF. We had sick people on there too.

[Edited 2004-12-27 09:47:19]


Florida Express, Braniff II and ......
User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7110 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5445 times:

A few years back, the girl next to me barfed in the seat. I had to help her to the toilet.
We are now friends.


User currently offlineRunway25 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5403 times:

A few weeks ago I was on a slightly bumpy flight to LGW sitting in the last row of a 737. After the a/c had landed but still taxiing to stand a businessman jumped up & raced to the rear toilet at a fair pace. He then (I presume for the little noises I could hear) safely deposited his earlier served BA breakfast "down the pan".

A minute or so later he appeared from the toilet where upon the stewardess realizing the situation gave him a glass of water etc., & some words of comfort. He seemed very relieved he had "saved" his breakfast for the toilet but also very embarrassed at his situation. I spoke to him - "It can happen to anyone, you're not the first & you'll not be the last".

Maybe this guy is a bad flyer, maybe he had some sort of stomach bug or something. Anyway I had pity on him rather than annoyance. After all in fairness to him he had managed to get to the right area as far as I'm concerned when he threw up & saved us all from that nauseating aroma.


User currently offlineType-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5214 times:

The ones I really like are the ones who get too dizzy from the motion sickness to get the aim into the bag correctly. A long time ago on a UA DC-8 ORD-LAX there was this teenage girl who kept throwing up the entire trip. Usually right into the aisle, or on the back of the seat in front of her. People literally got off that plane wearing bits and pieces of it! Baaahhhhh!

User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5185 times:

A similar incident happened last September when I flew Easyjet from AMS to LTN on a B73G. I was sitting on the back row, and during our decent a passenger rushed to the back toilet (you could see on his face he was desperate). Anyway as we began our approach into LTN, the stewards kept on knocking on the toilet door to ask him to return to his seat as the aircraft couldn't land till he was back in the seat and belted up (safety precaution). Anyway I could hear the guy shouting back, "Hold On!", but the stewards were getting impatient so they called his wife to try and get him out. So now you had 2 stewards and the wife telling the guy to leave the toilet (his wife did explain he had a bad case of diarrhea). Anyway literally 2 minutes before touchdown the guy finally came out (and with him came a 'sweet' smell that filled the cabin...lol). Anyway the guy sat next to me and the steward explained he can go back to the toilet once we landed. In the beginning I was kinda cheesed off but I could clearly see the guy was in a lot of pain and very embarrassed. I thought about asking him how he was but thought that would embarrass him even more as it would make it obvious we all knew he was sick. Anyway we landed and as the aircraft was taxing to the gate he returned to the toilet. Don't know what happened to the guy after that...

Horus




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User currently offlineUnited4EverDEN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5164 times:

I flew AA and threw up all over my mother on a flight MEM-DEN. That was years ago, I think I was 5. The pilot ended up carrying me off the plane in DEN since my mom had my brother. It was really a mess. I am sure it delayed the next flight.

User currently offline717-200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 601 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5158 times:

About a week ago someone on our last flight from ATL someone literally
puked all over the one of the two rear lav's in one of our 717's. Very little
of the puke actually got into the toilet basin! It took over an hour to
clean up that vile and hazardous mess. Scorn would be a very mild way
to feel toward what that pax had done!



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5154 times:

Different people react differently to some situations. I personally have been blessed with a body that NEVER gets any kind of motion sickness. Others have not. And while I would hope that all travellers would consider their physical well-being before getting on an airplane, getting along with your stomach is not possible 100% of the time. Be grateful when you AND your stomach arrive safe and sound!!

Happy Travels to All!!  Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3222 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5149 times:

To the original poster:

"and sparing all of us the sights and sounds of a bodily event best left unseen, unheard, and unsmelt."...

If it is truly best left unseen and unheard, why do you share with us so that we have to think about it?



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User currently offlineTLIMA From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5098 times:

I am surprised there even was a bag in the first place! Seriously, it seems like everytime I have flown this year, I looked in the seat back just out of curiosity and not once did I see a single bag!
I thought they had stopped making them in order to save costs or something. BTW, I mainly fly WN, is that something normal with them or did I really have bad luck with that? Luckily I never had to use them but it would have sucked if I did get sick, oops, no bag...that would have been embarassing and unsightly!
Thoughts/comments on why I hadn't seen them?
Thanx,
TLIMA



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User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5079 times:

I mainly fly WN, is that something normal with them or did I really have bad luck with that?

You had bad luck that day.


User currently offlineJeffDCA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5057 times:

Nealcg,
Live and let live, that's all i can say to that. It happens from time to time, heck even a friend of mine blew chunks all over me while going LHR-SIN, and he's a pilot too! Unfortunately he didn't get to the sick bag quick enough so used his trousers and my magazine as one instead, just be grateful the passenger behind you actually had one, may well have been a lot worse otherwise! Another friend of mine gets airsick every time she flies, just the way that some people are.

In closing, i'm sure if you were in that persons shoes, you'd be telling the story slightly differently  Wink/being sarcastic

Cheers,

Jeff


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6614 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4871 times:
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Chil out!

A few years ago I was flying on an Aerolineas Argentinas 732 and we encountered severe turbulence. All of a sudden many passengers started to vomit at the same type. The F/A's were going nuts distributing cokes.

Can you imagine the smell? It's part of life, you know, can you blame him? you should not be annoyed.


User currently offlineUnattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2342 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4830 times:

I'll jump in here too.

I was on an early Northwest flight from Detroit to Nashville several years ago when I could fly first class because of my father. I had not eaten anything that morning and was looking forward to a couple of drinks on the plane. As I was stowing my carry on, the flight attendant asked for my drink order and I requested a bloody mary. yummmm! That tasted good!

A few minutes later after I had finished my first drink, my row companion arrived and was immediately asked for his drink order. As a gentleman of impeccable taste, he ordered a bloody mary also. Seeing that I had already finished mine, the attendant asked if I wanted another drink. Not to be outdone, and still hungry, I asked for a second bloody mary. Not as yummie, but still tasted good.

Two drinks down and still no food in my stomach, I was content to sit in my seat expecting a smooth flight into Nashville. No such luck. Ten minutes prior to touchdown, my stomach starts to twitch. bump, bump, bump! I look around and quickly realize everyone is buckled in tight as we are moments from touchdown. I knew the sensation, so I reached for my seatback pouch and rummaged for a suitable receptacle. Voila, just in time. Up comes the two bloody marys, just coming shy of filling up the bag. Not wanting to hold this thing for another 10 minutes, I reach for the flight attendant call button and press it once. I hear the chime 3 rows ahead of me in the galley... no movement. I try again and the previously 'ready for arrival' attendant unbuckles her lap belt and takes possession of my stomach contents.

I felt really bad, knowing I could have prevented it by not drinking them.



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User currently offlineODwyerPW From Mexico, joined Dec 2004, 896 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4805 times:

I get violently sea sick every time I go deep see fishing. Doesn't matter if the trip originates out of the Gates into the Pacific or out of Montauk into the Atlantic. Dramimine makes me tired, grumpy and incohorent. Patches don't work, sea bands don't work. Prescription stuff is even worse. Puking is the lesser of the two evils. When it's over, I replace my fluids and get a neck/shoulder rub to relieve the tension. I'm literally ok in minutes. With medicines, I'd still feel rotten for another day.

I get air sickness about every 3rd time I fly. Have a heart. But I'm not going to take Dramimine and make myself tired, grumpy and incohorent for the first 2 days of any vacation or the entire 2 days of a business trip, when I can choose to endure 20 or 30 minutes of throwing up instead.

Just a little perspective. We don't like the fact that we can't take motion (can't read in a car, carnival rides out of the question, etc...).



Quiero una vida simple en Mexico. Nada mas.
User currently offlineNYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 693 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

Two weeks ago, a little boy about 3 or 4 years old got sick while our 763 was pushing back from the gate at CDG en route to JFK. I walked down the aisle and saw him sitting up, holding the bag in front of him and was amazed at his composure for such a little kid. My heart went out to him because he was so well-behaved despite being sick as a dog. He didn't even cry. His dad gave me a couple bags which were about half-full. All in a day's work!



User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4762 times:

Hi all,

If you are a good flyer, but if you eat, drink or smell something that doesn't agree with you then it will happen. Whenever i smell sick, i have to immediately walk away cos i would be sick with the smell.

Dog


User currently offlineMike77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4756 times:

This has to be the most vile, disgusting post I have EVER read...yet, like some sort of masochist, here I sit, reading each and every word while my stomach starts to flip flop. I can get very car sick, but oddly enough I welcome turbulence on a flight - to me it is very relaxing. But in the back of my mind, I am always paranoid someone is going to vomit. I have been on 3 flights in which passengers have vomited. Flying from SFO-ATL on a DL 763 a couple years ago, some guy in the center row in Economy just started throwing up all over the seat in front of him(it wasn't even turbulent). Within seconds, two flight attendants were running down the aisle with a huge garbage bag for him. I am still traumatized. And truthfully, I have very little patience for people and their bodily functions. It makes me mad, yes. I admit I do feel scorn. But, at the same time, I would be mortified if I ever threw up in front of anyone, let alone a plane full of people. So maybe we should try to put ourselves in their shoes. It makes me angry when people vomit on flights, but that is a part of the travel experience. If you don't like it when these things happen, then I guess the only alternative is to stay home. I can't get too pissed because I live to travel and just have to accept it as an evil of flying with the mass population....at least until I can afford my own private plane  Smile


Michael


User currently offlineUA_727 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 215 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

Mike77, you completely took the words out of my mouth (no pun intended for this particular post). Truly, a very well-said synopsis of this whole conundrum that we may all find ourselves in at one time or another (and playing both roles indeed).

I too, am literally sitting here saying, "Chris, stop scrolling down--this is utterly nauseating." Yet, here I am, post #20+. I admit to having the propensity in general to anger easily when people have bodily accidents. Yet I try relentlessly to remind myself that it's just that--an accident. (I truly do scorn those who are irresponsible in their actions, however, i.e. drunkenness).

I am one who is O.C.D. when it comes to making sure that I will not have any accidents when I am forced to be within the public crowd (Tums, Dramamine, and Imodium always packed). Yet I was mortified when even I, Mr. Paranoid, had a little accident of my own not that long ago. I was sitting at a play, and being asthmatic, I was getting a little short of breath from the restrictiveness of the theatre and decided, well within the parameters of routine, to take a shot of my albuterall inhaler. Sometimes, however, the sudden intake of this medicine can make one nauseous and cause a gag reflex (it is quite rare, but it happens to the best of us). I found myself running out of the theatre and crouching in the bushes (and the rest, as you know, history...).

Salute!

-UA-



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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 22, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4674 times:

Anyone can be victim to airsickness, and when it comes it is difficult to stop. As a child I was rather susceptible to air/motion sickness and I was never very happy on an airliner. Boeing 707's seemed to produce the worse reactions (I was not happy to ride on the "airplane with a needle on the tail") and I am certain it was partly psychological, but it also had to do with the inner ear sensitivity.

As I grew up I managed to overcome it pretty well unless the flight was choppy or I had to fly a small GA plane (there was one spectacular afternoon in a Mooney between Statesville and Stone Mountain after chocolate cake) and nausea hit me hard, although I was able to avoid actually using the bags in airliners. My issue with this came back with a vengeance when I joined the military and had to ride in C-130's doing NOE and contour flying while wearing parachute and rucksack. The medic in my unit saw me turning green and after that started each rig up at Green Ramp with an airsickness pill he assured me was prescription strength. I never got ill again on a flight. He gave me two bottles of the stuff when he was promoted out, and I called him for more when I ran out a year later. He gleefully informed me over the phone, after finding out I religiously used the stuff and found it miraculous, he told me it was motrin and that I was now on my own.

I have not needed it in a very long time, and have had many a hairy landing in COS or SLC in RJ's and Brasilia's during very windy sessions. I find that by deciding in advance I will not be sick I manage ot avoid airsickness....of course now that I write this I will ralf the next time I am near an airport.

Now, if only this held true on boats......



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User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 983 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (9 years 12 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4643 times:

I'm with ODwyerPW on this topic.

If a boat starts heaving, then so do I, but I also cannot tolerate the side effects of medications, so I deal with it in the same manner.

And even though I've been on close to 300 flights, the effects of motion sickness are still random and do not diminish. Rough chop and sudden drops in altitude don't seem to bother me, and of course smooth flights are just fine, but continuous rolling, yawing or pitching motions of an aircraft first make me cold sweat and then my mouth starts watering - and I know what comes next!!

Although motion sickness has only resulted in me puking on about 4 out of 300 flights, after my first disastrous experience, I have a plan:

- ensure there is a sickness bag available at my seat when I board an aircraft
- ask for one if there is not
- have the bag ready in my hand if the aircraft starts to sway


What has to be considered, is often the motion (turbulence) associated with causing the sickness for an individual also results in the seatbelt light going on, or for someone like me, the motion caused by crosswinds during approach or hold patterns are both situations where pax must remain seated, so heading for the lav is not an acceptable option.

If there is another pax sitting beside me and I start to feel sick, I will tell them what to expect. This is only fair. If I do throw up, I usually feel too dreadful to be embarrassed, but don't need pity either. I dispose of the used bag in the lav trash receptacle myself at the end of the flight. As an adult, I don't expect an FA to do this for me.

As for pax throwing up on seats, in the aisle, on window sidewalls, overhead bins, or on other pax, sometimes airsickness is sudden, unexpected and there wasn't time to react. Years ago, I learned the hard way when I experienced airsickness the first time and tried to ignore the symptoms and then threw up all over the unoccupied aisle seat and aisle carpet on a brand new B767-300 during approach to YVRSad I felt tremendous shame and guilt for the mess I made of the cabin of that new aircraft, especially with the 767 being my favorite plane, and this just compounded the feeling of dread and prolonged the sickness. I can hardly begin to explain how embarrassing this was. When we reached the gate, an FA sprinkled the areas with some kind of disinfectant and tried to assure me everything was fine, but I just could not stop apologizing for the mess I made. The FA refused to let me clean it up. I still feel enough guilt from that experience that I will do everything I can to prevent it from happening again.




LD4



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User currently offlineNealcg From United States of America, joined May 2004, 141 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (9 years 12 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4499 times:

Wow,

I never expectd this type of response!

To clarify a couple of points to some people accusing me of insensitivity. I was only speaking of what was going through my mind. I was never rude in anyway to the poor lady. Matter of fact I handed my bag back to her as a spare.

I admit that my first reaction is usually to be angry becuase I have been puked ON by another passenger...Twice. Very unpleasant WN experiences.

I guess I would only truly be mad if someone got sick becuase of Drunkeness, or missed the bag.

This is a truly disgusting post but I love it regardless.

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy



REMEMBER...NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO...THERE YOU ARE !!
25 Ken777 : The benefits we enjoy while flying (especially cheap seats) are there because a lot of people who fly once or twice a year and some of them don't resp
26 BOEING747-700 : Nealcg, I saw right where you were coming from too. I sometimes wonder why people get sick too, but like other members have said, everyone is differen
27 Post contains images Tommy767 : Some people can't help it. EWR-SAN I vomited three times and I had a stomach bug. Sure I felt embarrassed, but I couldn't help it. I was in 3rd grade,
28 Deltaflyertoo : IMO these days aside from turbulence, flights are very smooth. So I always wonder why people do get sick. I have concluded that the majority of people
29 KaiTakFan : Ok... I have to add to this thread! First off I must say I feel alot of pitty for those who suffer motion sickness. I myself am 99.8% unaffected by mo
30 Sacflyer : I work in a hospital. Am I supposed to complain when sick people throw up in front of me or even on me? I believe it is called airsickness, seasicknes
31 Airbusa340 : WOW - What a subject. I too like many of you absolutely HATE being sick or seeing anyone be sick.... Infact it is a major problem in my life and like
32 Nealcg : Since I started this thread I guess I should throw in the two events that scarred me for life... WN: SAN-PHX-HOU-SAT (1982) Sat next to a young lady,
33 Smcmac32msn : This past April, I was on a flight (still at the gate) from HSV-CVG on OH. The F/A was going though the announcements with the door open (we loaded fr
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