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AI 777 In Service; AI More Likely To Order 777?  
User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6571 posts, RR: 55
Posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5681 times:

Hi !

With the first Boeing 777 being delivered to Air-India, last Friday, does this mean that Air-India is more likely to order the 777 as their new long haul aircraft ? I know that there's a very long process and that AI recently had to start the process all over again although with the addition of ultra-longhaul aircraft to be ordered as well. Opinions please !

The777Man


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User currently offlineFCKC From France, joined Nov 2004, 2348 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5596 times:

Firstly with this try by leasing 3 ex T7s UA , surely at a good price , they will be able to evaluate the Boeing plane to see if it would be a good plane for them.I think it doesn't mean it will buy new 777s built , neither A340s (300 or 500 or 600) .When they will be ready to officially sign for a long haul order the 7E7 and the A350 will fly.............

User currently offlineNyc777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5762 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5572 times:

Seeing that they are looking for an ultra long range aircraft they will look for 777-200LR or A340-500 and to serve medium range missions they could take a look at 7E7s, A350s, 777-200ER or 777-300. Given that they are leasing the 777, it might give a slight edge to Boeing but that depends on how the aircraft perfoms profit wise on the LHR-BOM route as well as other destinations that it will serve.


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5542 times:

Air India's official statement on this subject is :

"The question of having more than three Boeing 777s in our fleet would depend on the techno-economic study that is currently underway as part of our acquisition plan. In the event of 777s being preferred to a comparable aircraft from Airbus, we will certainly add more Boeing 777s."


User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5488 times:

Hi All,

My parents are going to be travelling on the AI 777 in the next week. I was just wondering what the aircraft is likely to be like, in the sense, will the PTV's be working? Have they changed the seat config?

Any info would be appreciated.

Moheet  Smokin cool



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User currently offlineAAplatnumflier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5469 times:

Also when are the going to start flying out here to LAX?

Any info thanks in AAdvance!!


User currently offlineAtmx2000 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4576 posts, RR: 37
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5336 times:

AI's current fleet uses GE and PW engines, and the 772ERs AI is leasing use PW engines. Is the engine manufacturer going to be a criteria in fleet selection, especially if AI considers aircraft in the 772LR/A345 and 773ER/A346 classes? Given the A340NGs use Rolls-Royce engines, would this reduce the chances of A340NGs being selected as well as A343s (which do use CFM engines) if AI decides to have a common engine manufacturer for the new fleet.


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User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5270 times:

although im a huge boeing fan, i think they will jump on the A340-500 if they really want ultra-long haul planes. As some of you mentioned they will most probably only add second-hand planes. Since there aren't any 777-200LR's build and SQ maybe can get a good price for there A340-500 in favoure of the 200LR i think the chance of A340 in Air India's fleet is fairly big.

But if they don't need the ultra's i think they will jump on the 777. There aren't really second-hand A340's up for lease/sale and there are some UAL 777's.....



guess this is another case of just wait what will happen....


User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4910 times:


Be happy that we have finally got a new aircraft

Actually Karan: AI has got old aircraft. Rusting away in the desert for years b4 Air India decided to take them up.

Harrumph! "Palace in the sky" indeed! "Rust Buckets in the Sky" is more like!

-Roy


User currently offlineWarren747sp From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4901 times:

Right Indian Guy,
Planes parked in desert with no humidity are rust buckets! Very knowledgable.
All planes parked and stored should not be brought back to service at all.
W



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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 4860 times:

AI has got old aircraft. Rusting away in the desert for years b4 Air India decided to take them up.

Rusting aside, she is still the youngest member of the fleet by a long way!  Big grin


User currently offlineSoaringadi From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4776 times:

***"Seeing that they are looking for an ultra long range aircraft they will look for 777-200LR or A340-500 and to serve medium range missions they could take a look at 7E7s, A350s, 777-200ER or 777-300"***

I agree. But will they buy new planes at all. Its as if that they try their best to get used planes so I don't know about the Lr's or E7's.



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User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4773 times:

I have not looked up the registration individually on three 777s as of yet, but given that UA took its first 777 delivery in the Summer of 1995, the planes are actually quite new by AI standards.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4723 times:

AI has got old aircraft. Rusting away in the desert for years b4 Air India decided to take them up.

Personally I've seen N205UA from Outside,Looks quite good.
Structurally I have to speak with Someone from AI Engineering with Structural Approval.

Any Aircraft when preserved/Stored have a Inspection Schedule that needs to be followed at Fixed durations Calender period wise.Regular checks,servicing are carried out either Weekly/Forthnightly/Monthly/3 Monthly/6 Monthly/Annually.
If followed well there is no question of A problem Structurally.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1434 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4679 times:

AI has got old aircraft. Rusting away in the desert for years b4 Air India decided to take them up.

Roy, this is completely false as the longest any of those planes was stored was for 17 months, the others for roughly 14, and 7 months.

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineChris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2820 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4634 times:

When is the first flight to LHR with this new T7?

I heard it was scheduled on the 30th Dec, is this true, i would love to go and shoot it as it arrives!

Chris



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User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2744 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4359 times:

HAWK21M,

"Personally I've seen N205UA from Outside,Looks quite good."

Careful there Mel, you don't want to upset Roy's fantasies. Afterall, since he's already made this statement,

Rusting away in the desert for years. . .*

on this thread alone, he clearly isn't exactly interested in the truth, only what he imagines next.  Insane

Hamlet69

* Actual storage time
Longest: 17 months
Shortest: 9 months



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 3754 times:

How are these aircraft configured?

Do they have the same configuration as UA's 3-class 777s with the First Suites in First?

Will AI's pathetic website ever be updated to provide details on its most modern fleet addition?


User currently offlineAirindia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3682 times:

saw an ad from Air India in the ascent today. they require 38 captians on permanent basis and 19 co-pilot trainees on 5 yr contracts. Have not mentioned the a/c type. could this be for the AI express or the future T7 leases?

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

Guru....I think they are required for the AIE B738s.

regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineAirindia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3462 times:

mel,

i had thought as much. keep seeing that space on the ascent i wud say....... opportunities aplenty.

best,
guru


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