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User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2690 posts, RR: 10
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4206 times:

Hi there. I have been having a hard time locating any new information about Boeing's proposed 747 Advanced Project on their website. Can anybody tell me if new developments have occured, and if Boeing is nearing a decision on whether to launch the project or not?


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User currently offlineCXoneWorld From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

Hey, you may want to have a look at the link below:

http://www.orientaviation.com/pages/back_issues/04_12/OA_V12N03_Staying_game.htm

Boeing had held an executive forum in Hong Kong just recently to update "potential customers" on the B747Adv project. I'm hoping the location was not a matter of coincidence as CX seems to be rather interested all the while.

 Smile

[Edited 2004-12-28 17:58:06]


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User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2690 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3881 times:

Thanks for the article, CXoneWorld. It looks like this project is going to get off the ground a lot easier than the Boeing 747X project Boeing began in 1996 before shelving it due to lack of interest by airlines and deciding to study stretching the 777 and 767. Great to see a lot of major 747 carriers involved in this. I suspect eventually NW and UA will become involved too.


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User currently offlineBoeingBus From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1596 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3658 times:

Great read! Glad to hear more news on this beast!

If Boeing follows through... it's going to be a true winner!

In my opinion, this is the best selling point even though it sounds very 'Airbusesque':

Boeing stresses the commonality between the B747 Advanced and its B777 and 7E7 aircraft. “We are taking a lot of what we have developed for the B777, a lot of the strategies that we have put together with the flight deck commonality with the 7E7 and, again, a lot of development for the landing gear of the B777,” he said.

“We would cover a 200-300 seat market, a 300-400 seat market and a 400-500 seat market, all with a family of planes that would be able to fly together.”

With some cross-training, the same pilot will be able to handle all three. Existing customers want the B747 to be able to fly further, into the B777-200ER range, said Faye. That way aircraft can be moved around the fleet, servicing the same long-range routes, but being switched depending on seat demand. Similar engine technology to the 7E7 will be employed, with similar nacelles, common tools and common parts."



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9635 posts, RR: 68
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 3650 times:
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I was asking about this two weeks ago at the China Airlines/Dreamliner event.

Look for an announcement in the next 60 days  Smile


User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2472 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3499 times:

Even though it looks promising, let's not count our chickens, just yet. There was interest in earler proposed 747 derivatives, as well, just not enough to sign on the dotted line. This one appears to be a winner but I'll hold off on cheering until I actually hear about a launch order. It seems they're going a bit farther with the design than previously hinted at; a "new" wing wasn't previously stated as part of the package, though I agree it's a must for the new 747 to be competitive. I wonder if the 'advanced metals' includes the lithium aluminum being used to lighten the A380; that would be a bit of an ironic twist. I'm sure there's some interest in Asia, unlikely all of those carriers looking for something big need the A380; there should be some room for a smaller, equally efficient 747A, as well. But we'd better hear about some orders before too long.

User currently offlineCRPilot From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3481 times:

Are there any proposed designs? Or perhaps shelved designs?


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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 978 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3429 times:

Are there any proposed designs? Or perhaps shelved designs?

The current 747-Adv is not a dusted off version of the 747-500/600 that was pitched as an A388 fighter, but rather a blend of 7E7 technology and the never-launched 747-400QXLR.

Major 747-Adv improvements include-
1. 130-inch stretch, increasing 3-class capacity to 450 passengers
2. MTWO increase to ~960,000 lbs
3. Range increase to 8,100 nm
4. Wingtip redesign
5. New 7E7-type engines, and redesigned engine pylons
6. Reduced structural weight via lightweight aluminum and composites
7. New avionics suite


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3408 times:

Boeing 747X project Boeing began in 1996 before shelving it due to lack of interest by airlines and deciding to study stretching the 777 and 767.

Both the 777 and 767's stretches were well underway long before the 747X concept was cancelled.

In fact, the porposed 764ERX was cancelled within days of the 747X.




Boeing stresses the commonality between the B747 Advanced and its B777 and 7E7 aircraft.

What commonality?



Existing customers want the B747 to be able to fly further, into the B777-200ER range, said Faye.

Um, the current 744ER has virtually identical range to the 772ER...


User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2690 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2009 times:

Should we expect to see the old 747-700X design reinstated? In other words, the NLA (New Large Airplane)? This plane was expected to carry 650 passengers, and was supposed to be to me at least nothing more than an A380 with the cockpit on the upper deck level. The NLA would make a perfect A380 rival.


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User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

I thought the 747Adv. was this contraption like A-600 Beluga that will fly parts from Japan w 7e7 wings etc......

Micke  Insane



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