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How Much Is Boeing Worth?  
User currently offlineAviation From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 1143 posts, RR: 21
Posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 13170 times:

Hi,

I have now heard from the worlds richest airlines now I want to know a simple fact which is probably the most difficult question on earth.......

HOW MUCH IS BOEING CURRENTLY WORTH in TOTAL?

WHAT IS THE MOST IT HAS EVER BEEN WORTH?

Thanks,
Aaron J Nicoli

P.S. No Need to bitchfest...


Signed, Aaron Nicoli - Trans World Airlines Collector
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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 13158 times:

Currently worth $44.71 billion. Max was $58.77 billion in 2001.


When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineAviation From Australia, joined Dec 2004, 1143 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 13152 times:

Don't mean to start something but what about airbus

Thanks,
Aaron J Nicoli



Signed, Aaron Nicoli - Trans World Airlines Collector
User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 13143 times:

Impossible to valuate because it's technically a private entity (SAS.)


When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineAeronuts From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 13135 times:

According to Forbes:

Boeing ranked 79 (sales 46, profits 153, assets 208, market value 147)
EADS (owns Airbus) ranked 501 (sales 135, profits N/A, assets 220, market value 441)



User currently offlineJet-lagged From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 872 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 13101 times:


From 2003 annual report, EADS has 152M Euro in income, which was listed as 0.19 Euro/share. That makes it about 800M shares. At a recent share price of 21.5 Euro then . . . . EADS is worth around Euro17.2B or US$23.4B. Airbus only would be something less than that.

cheers



User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4940 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 13005 times:


According to Yahoo Financial site Boeing's Book value is just over $100billion .
That is if the company ceased operations today and paid all its bills it would have a value of $100 billion. Of course there is no guarantee of realising that figure should an attempt be made to sell the company off in bits and pieces.


User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6484 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12998 times:

SunriseValley:

Interesting. Usually, when the market capitalization is lower than the breakup/book value, it's time to buy.



When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not guilty.' T.Roosevelt
User currently offlineAntares From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 1402 posts, RR: 39
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 12911 times:

Hi N328KE,

Buy now. The stock is falling like a brick at the moment because China has shut its wallet.

Antares

PS Beware book values. They are rarely achieved, and rarely correct.


User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12864 times:

Book value is simply an accounting entity. Market value, or total capitalization, is the best measure of a company's value. On a balance sheet, it would be indicated as "Shareholders Equity" on the liabilities side. It's also equal to the current share value times the number of shares outstanding.

Cheers,
Pete


User currently offline174thfwff From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12857 times:

Aeronuts,
Are your numbers including military sales in there as well?
-174th


User currently offlineSunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 4940 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 12822 times:

Delta-flyer..

sorry you have it wrong. Market value does not show on the Balance Sheet.
Market value is a value that investors put on the company. In Boeing's case it is about 4.47 times book value/ share and about 15 times trailing earnings per share or 20 times expected 2005 earnings per share.


User currently offlinePlaneSmart From New Zealand, joined Dec 2004, 896 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 12804 times:

Market value is just that - todays value based on investor trades.

It bears little resemblance to the value if B was sold by divisions, geographical locations, subject to a hostile takeover or broken up in a fire sale situation.

S&P and others with a financial exposure look hard at cashflows, profit and balance sheets - historical, current and most important, projected (applying what if scenarios with risk weightings).


User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 12779 times:

Market value does not show on the Balance Sheet

Sunrise ... I didn't say Market value is in the balance sheet - however, Shareholders Equity is, and that is de facto the market value of a company. As you say, it's the value the investors place on the company by way of the the share price.

Pete


User currently offlineBa97 From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12722 times:

It is trading at 4.47?
Interesting. several years ago in the late 1990s the Economist identified that it was struggling at 1. They identified that if someone had the cash, they could by them and liquidate it, get 100% of their money back for what they sold and obviously more and in the process keep essential assets of value to the purchaser. They identified GE as the only company in the world capable to pull it off, and know what to do with the pieces.



there is economy class, business class, first class...then Concorde..pure class
User currently offlineAeronuts From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12693 times:

174thfwff

yes, it's all of Boeing, which is why Forbes compare the EADS number....

Without access to corporate information, it's nearly impossible to separate the commercial aircraft business from either company.


User currently offlineOftwftwoab From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 12647 times:

Shareholders equity as shown in the balance sheet is not the same as the market value of a company.

Shareholders equity is the amount of money the original shareholders gave to the company in return for it issuing them their shares.

Market value of a company is the number of shares issued multiplied by the price of a share on the market.

Book value is the value of the assets as shown in the books of account less the value of the liabilities. The value of assets is normally their historic cost less any depreciation. It often bears little relation to what the assets would fetch in the open market.


User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2490 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 12640 times:

its not so hard to say how much airbus is worth, i mean if you know how much money the french government has you know how much airbus has....

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