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Venezuela: Which Routes To Which Airlines  
User currently offlineArgentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 374 posts, RR: 12
Posted (9 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2602 times:

Hi all, and speacilly "amigos de Venezuela":

I would like to know what is the present status of international routes assigned to Venezuela's airlines.

I can remember that Caracas-Buenos Aires was authorised to Aserca Airlines a long time ago, and I think they are only flying since a long time only domestic routes and their internatinal destinations are only Curacao, Aruba and Santo Domingo.

Is there in Venezuela any penalty for those ailrines not using for a long period of time the assigned routes? Can Conviasa ask for routes not used by other Venezuelan carriers? Here in Argentina, as usual, there is a period of 180 days to start any assigned route. If not started, route becomes unassigned again.

Can anyone tell me which international routes belong ti which airlines in Venezuela?

Saludos desde Argentina





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User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Conviasa being the new staterun airline they can probably do whatever they want. If they will is the question.


I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineVenezuela747 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1428 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2536 times:

I am not sure if this will help but http://www.aeropuerto-maiquetia.com.ve has a list of all the airlines, routes, times and all that stuff for all international service to/from CCS


ROLL TIDE!!!
User currently offlineArgentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 374 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Thank you guys. I thought that anybody could tell me something similar to this:

CCS-EZE assigned to Aserca Airlines
CCS-MAD assigned to Santa Barbara Airlines
CCS-PAR ??
CCS-SAO ??
CCS-MEX ??

and so on....

Thanks anyway



User currently offlineCivilav From Mexico, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2468 times:

OK Argentina, here we go...

All Andean Pact countries have multiple designated carriers as well as 5th Freedom Rights, thus any Venezuelan or Colombian carrier, for instance, can operate services to any point within those countries and continue on to Ecuador, Peru and Bolivia.
Brazil and Argentina:Aserca
Chile: Aeropostal (VH)
Mexico and Central America including Panama: Avensa (nominally, that is, as the airline is defunct)
USA:Aeropostal, Avensa, Servivensa, Aserca and Sta. Barbara airlines (multiple designation applies but subject to Venezuela's current Cat II status)
Canada: no designated carrier
Spain: multiple designation (VE, S3, VH)
Italy and Portugal: VE, with rights currently transferred de facto to S3
UK, Denmark, France, Switzerland and Germany: VH
Caribbean: multiple designation

Venezuela has 5th Freedom rights agreements with Andean Pact countries, Brazil, Uruguay, Argentina, Chile and Paraguay in addition to the Dominican Republic.

Many routes need to be reallocated as airlines have proved unwilling to commence services (particularly to Europe) and the method of awarding them in 1998 by the then Venezuelan Government left a lot to be desired to say the least.

Happy New Year to all !


User currently offlineKlmdude From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2439 times:

I also hear more and more rumours that Santa Barbara will operate B767-300?

User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2574 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2426 times:

Klmdude,

What was announced on the Venezuelan press a couple of months ago, was that Santa Barbara was going to get 2 MD-11s to start operating flights to Portugal and Italy. Dunno about the 763s.


User currently offlineArgentina From Argentina, joined Aug 2000, 374 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Thanks a lot Civilav, very complete information.

Another question: why is it that airlines such as Aserca, seem not to be interested in routes they have been assigned lon ago, i.e. Brazil and Argentina?



User currently offlineLuisde8cd From Pitcairn Islands, joined Aug 2004, 2574 posts, RR: 31
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Another question: why is it that airlines such as Aserca, seem not to be interested in routes they have been assigned lon ago, i.e. Brazil and Argentina?

After the Air Aruba fiasco, Aserca almost went bankrupt. So they are practically trying to survive flying domestically and to AUA, CUR (1month old route), SDQ and PUJ(charters) with their old DC9-30s. They dont have the a/c needed to fly down south to Brazil and Argentina. I think the farther south they could get would be Manaus, but If im not mistaken VH was the one flying the route until it got slashed a couple of years ago. So now I also have a question... if Aserca is the one designated to fly to Brazil, why was VH allowed to fly to MAO?


User currently offlineCivilav From Mexico, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Luis,

The answer to that riddle is:

Manaos is treated as special economic zone by the Brazilian government and Aeropostal got perimission to fly the route only to feed traffic to Margarita.. or that was the original request at any rate. Please remember that there is a treaty signed in 1994 between the governments of Caldera in Venezuela and Itamar Franco in Brazil to aid and foster development along the Amazonian border.
The route was nowhere near as profitable as once thought and hence its abandonment.


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