ExSCA From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 25 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1887 times:
know there once was a post on this, but i couldnt find the archive too it......but can anyone advise of any comapnies that let fellow aviation buffs
do flying in a sim even at a signifigant expense???.....isnt there one in LGB???
Baw716 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2045 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1470 times:
Swiss also sells time on their simulators...www.swiss.com should point you in the proper direction.
In the USA, there are few companies that offer sim time for 'Non pilots'. This said, UAL services used to offer a program to elite MPLUS members to burn miles to fly a sim at their Flight Training Center in Denver. I believe they may offer it on a paid basis, but if you take that option: Be warned: It will not be cheap. It will also be at a time when the sim is not training pilots. UALs sim train 24/7. Therefore, to find a slot for a 777 or a 747-400, you may be flying at 3am...and you may not get that time until the last minute. That could really suck if you are paying $2000 for a couple of hours in a 777 sim.
There are also other non-airline companies that do training for pilots that might sell off time for non-pilots. However, be aware that they will be extremely picky as to who they will allow on their sims. You will have to show some proficiency on their static sims before they will allow you on the big machine. In fact, PLAN on this if you go to UA. They will not let you go on a sim without checking you out in a static sim to determine your flight skills (and your level of seriousness with regard to flight training).
Be aware, that asking for sim time these days is a difficult proposition. Given that the 9/11 attack came out of terrorists learning on simulators and at flight schools, airlines are especially leery about even letting you near a sim even if you have 3000 of sim time in a 747 (I have 1500 hours in jets, mostly in the A320s and the B737 and 767). I might, since I have had around five FBI background checks in the past 10 years (airline jobs require it) and I used to work for UAL, so buying sim time would be difficult but not impossible for me. If you can't demonstrate the hours, or the airline background, it may be a tough go here in the states. Better to go overseas.
Good luck and practice, practice, practice
You'll need it! It isn't as easy you may think. Seasoned simmers got slammed in the 747 sim (see www.avsim.net convention review for details)
David L. Lamb, fmr Area Mgr Alitalia SFO 1998-2002, fmr Regional Analyst SFO-UAL 1992-1998