Swisskloten From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2934 times:
Can someone answer this for me? There is a law against tampering with or disabling the smoke detector in the plane's lavatory. Why go through the hassle? Even if you do succeed and light up, your breath will smell like smoke, your clothes will smell like smoke, the next person who uses the lavatory will know you were the one puffing and finally, your fingers will smell of nicotine. Just last week, a fool tried to do that and the flight was diverted. Even if he HAD been able to destroy the smoke detector, the smell of smoke and nicotine on his hands and clothes would have given him away. The plane is in the air so it's not like he can hide. I'm sure the stench will seep into the seat so all they have to do is sniff the fabric!
EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4933 posts, RR: 28 Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2825 times:
I know all non smokers hated it, but I miss having a nice cigarrette after meals, especially on long haul.
"Why go through the hassle? Even if you do succeed and light up, your breath will smell like smoke, your clothes will smell like smoke, the next person who uses the lavatory will know you were the one puffing and finally, your fingers will smell of nicotine"
Well, your breath and clothes can smell like smoke even if you don't smoke in the plane. In many airports world wide you can smoke, and many, including myself, smoke a last one before boarding, so the smell is there. And even if the next person using the lav smells smoke, he will not necessarily report it.
Foxiboy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 208 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2761 times:
I dont undrestand why people cant wait a few hours to have a cigarette, i am a F/A in the uk and a smoker i can operate flights to india , and the duty is 14 hours with a tech stop and the report time etc and have no propblems,we also op flights of 2 hours and you get passengers trying to lite up in the lav. Here in the uk anyone caught faces a £5000 fine and 6 months in prison, and the airlines here will and do prosecute those people caught. So why risk it.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12715 posts, RR: 80 Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2713 times:
During 1998/99, BA Concorde flights, had a spate of toilet smoke alarms, or had the smoke detectors interfered with.
The crews had an idea who was responsible, the pax was warned.
Finally, one incident too many compelled the crew to radio ahead to LHR, for a police reception.
That's how Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein got arrested, charged and fined.
You'd have thought that paying for a much quicker flight would have been partly for this pax halving the time between smoke breaks wouldn't you?
Weinstein was apparently 'mortified' by the whole episode.
Moman From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1048 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2642 times:
I was flying on AA last week and someone was smoking in the rear lav. The FA asked for the pax to be honest and tell where he put the cigarette butt for the "safety of the aircraft". They figured out who is was through process of elimination but I don't know what happened after we got on the ground in STL.
Dcrusafon From Spain, joined Apr 2004, 333 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2597 times:
Last monday jumpseating from Barcelona to Tenerife Sur a F/A caught a person smoking to lavatory. The captain called to the airline coordination and ask for police to be in the gate.
The person who was flying with him said that he had some "mental problems" but this pax was warned twice to don't smoke...
When we arrived the police was in the finger waiting to this passenger to get him fined...
Bucky707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2561 times:
"During 1998/99, BA Concorde flights, had a spate of toilet smoke alarms, or had the smoke detectors interfered with."
on a Concorde? The passenger couldn't make it two hours to get on the ground?
Bmed From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 854 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2528 times:
I know that aeroflot not long ago still allowed smoking on flights but I with the others. Smokers should just wait. If they can't then they should hire a private jet or take a cruise. Its sad really.
AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 15 Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2473 times:
hey
once of the many times I've flown Air France someone was caught smoking in the lavatory.
This was on a CDG-MAD leg. A flight attendent went storming back to the lavatory pulled the door open and dragged a guy about 18 years old out of the bathroom by his ear! She pulled him down the asile and to the cockpit. I think they where notifying the feds because when we arrived in MAD police came into the plane and took him out of the plane.
Slider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6518 posts, RR: 37 Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2430 times:
Besides getting operational pages from IAH about weather, medical emergencies, etc over the Christmas holiday, I got NO FEWER than 3 messages of HPD being called to meet an inbound because of some dumbass smoking in the lav.
EZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4933 posts, RR: 28 Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2214 times:
" I just don't get it"
I'm a smoker and I don't get it either. When non smoking policies were enforced on all (or most) of the top airlines, I flew EZE-AMS-EZE and although it was tough at first, I managed fine to not smoke. Now for me its easy, even on long haul. But I guess some smokers really have a bad time, especially those that are scared to fly. My mom is a smoker and she used to be terrified of flying, and she could only calm herself with a smoke. I think she's over it now since she flies regularly and never tried to smoke in the lav.
F9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4739 posts, RR: 30 Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2187 times:
Right after the smoking ban hit most US carriers, I had the enjoyment of watching someone enter the lavatory of a Republic Airlines MD-80. The seatbelt signs were still on, and we were airborn for about 2 minutes! To my shock, I heard the smoke detector go off shortly after.
A moment of chaos hit, as I suddenly saw the lavatory door pop open. The passenger was greeted by a Flight Attendant, who warned the passenger verbally. The smoke detector would not stop going off, and eventually the First Officer was seen going into the lavatory. I heard a loud bang, and watched him walk out of the bathroom. He had a shoe in his hand, and a funny smirk on his face. He proceeded back to the cockpit.
About an hour later, the same passenger went to the bathroom. I guess that was the last time, as I saw the flight attendant escort the passenger back to the seat. When we arrived to MSP, the pax was greeted by a few police officers. Not sure if the passenger was arrested or not, but it certainly shows that nicotine is a problem for some!
Acidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1855 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2125 times:
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Just out of curiosity, are there any biz-jet type charters which allow smoking onboard? I'd think that if you are paying that much money for an aircraft (barring the applicable laws of course), and considering some of the crazy (entertainment) types that they haul around, that one of them must allow it, or at least look the other way.
Another idea - I think airlines need to start carrying nicotine gum or some equivalent for passengers who freak out and need a fix. I'd rather accomodate someone that way rather than have them light up in the lav and go through that turmoil. Also, if more airport gift shops would start carrying such a product, that would help too.
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