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Updated American A300 Is Here  
User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 8796 times:

Hi all,

Just came back from a trip to Puerto Rico an hour ago and I flew on the updated A300. It has the same navy blue seats with the adjustable headrests as the Boeing 767, the carpet is navy blue (if I remember correctly), the sidewalls are the same, the overhead lockers are the same, the CRT displays were replaced with similarly sized thin LCD monitors. I tell you this was a welcomed change to the A300 that I flew out of JFK, the interior of that plane that was so tattered and old.


"Are you a pretender... or a thoroughbred?!" - Professor Matt Miller
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User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 8705 times:

Just flew A300 on the MIA-LIM-MIA portions of my trip. Same ol' Airbus, same old tattered everything, disgusting bathrooms (were not cleaned in LIM). I guess you did get lucky.
FLY2LIM



Faucett. La primera linea aerea del Peru.
User currently offlineXkorpyoh From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8426 times:

during my the last trips on AA A300 there was a stinky smell coming from the bathrooms that lasted througout the flight. My travel companion aslo smelled it but didnt want to say anyting until i mentioned. What is wrong with those planes? it only happens on the AA A300 (as per my experience)

User currently offlineGearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8389 times:

There is nothing wrong with the aircraft. AA are not keeping them clean, simple as that.

GU



I have no memory of this place.
User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8298 times:


Where is Mr Muscle when you need him?

Jjeeeehhhhhh........

Mike / SE  Insane



Airbus SAS - Love them both
User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8226 times:

There is nothing wrong with the aircraft. AA are not keeping them clean, simple as that.

You could say that again. My daughter wanted to use the bathroom in LIM before takeoff for MIA. My wife took her and explained to me later that the restroom was full of pee, everywhere except the actual toilet seat. Not a pretty sight.
Why doesn't AA clean their toilets?
FLY2LIM



Faucett. La primera linea aerea del Peru.
User currently offlineBlsbls99 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 345 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8177 times:

Sounds to me like it is whomever AA contracts their aircraft cleaning to in LIM.


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User currently offlineJumboJet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8177 times:

write letters to AA. you'll get a response.



https://www.aa.com/apps/utility/contactAA/ContactAAHome.jhtml?fileName=aaCustomerRelations.jhtml

https://www.aa.com/apps/utility/contactAA/EmailCustomerRelations.jhtml


User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5654 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8162 times:

Thank goodness the only time I fly the grand ol' A300's are on the JFK-MIA runs...


Next trip: SLC-DEN-SLC-PHX-JFK-LAX-SLC with my wife and oldest daughter. F9 to and from DEN, US to JFK, AA 321 and CR7
User currently offlineB757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1375 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8120 times:

THIS IS NOT TO JUSTIFY THE FLIGHT BUT, Some of us airlines try to quick turn, even on international routes. What that meens is that the aircraft may fly 4 legs before it gets cleaners on board. For example and aircraft could fly: ORD-MIA-CUN-MIA and then finally in MIA it might be cleaned.


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User currently offlineWesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5654 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 8101 times:

So very true, B757capt. Isnt that how Southwest does it? They do their 8 flights a day and then clean it at the next overnight stop?


Next trip: SLC-DEN-SLC-PHX-JFK-LAX-SLC with my wife and oldest daughter. F9 to and from DEN, US to JFK, AA 321 and CR7
User currently offlineSwadispatcher From United States of America, joined May 2004, 427 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7936 times:

But at least our lavs are mopped out and straightened up at each provisioning stop..


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User currently offlineChiGB1973 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1615 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7455 times:

TZ cleans at every stop (even MDW-MSP), I find it hard to believe, though I was wrong that one time, that AA does not clean lavs at every stop.

The lavs on the 757 without vacuum toilets are pretty horrendous too until the engines are running and the air is being circulated better than sitting on the ground. It would be quit an undertaking to replace the lavs to a vacuum system.

Could be a problem with the cleaners? The staff may be too lazy to complain and let management know and the customers would rather put a posting on here than complain to management on the AA web site.

M


User currently offlinePronto From Canada, joined Mar 2000, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7309 times:

It was brought up during the comments, so here goes! If you can't pee(into the toilet) standing up, SIT DOWN!! This isn't just aimed(no pun!!) at the women, but obviously some of the men too!! It doesn't help if so many members of the public are such pigs these days...

User currently offlineEmiratesUK From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7213 times:

Flew on one of those A300 MIA-JFK in 1999, they were a little tatty back then. Can't believe they've only just started to update the interior.


EK A380 Private suite - Here I come!!
User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7040 times:

Where is Mr Muscle when you need him?

I know where he is. I see him everyday. He's one of my theatre teacher! He doesn't look like him in real life without his hair gelled! Did you know they actually film Mr Muscle ads in South Africa because it's cheaper and Phil (Muscle) gets first class seats!



AA obviously don't keep the busses in good shape!

Sam Big thumbs up



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineUNDAEROSPACE From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6933 times:

The A300's shakes and rattles like a 1955 Thunderbird.Those things need to be replaced badly...Hopefully with the 7e7 eventually..

User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6807 times:

Yep. Those new interiors can make all the difference.


"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6751 times:

The A300's shakes and rattles like a 1955 Thunderbird.Those things need to be replaced badly...Hopefully with the 7e7 eventually..

Sounds like AA don't treat these birds nicely! MON keep them in very good condition, as with their old 1983 757's, all in tip top shape!

Sam



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 5318 times:

My last two flights on AA A-300's (July and Nov 2004) both had the new AA interior's, big improvement and on both flights the lavs where clean/normal !

Regards LGA777


User currently offlineFlybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 4968 times:

I would have to say that I agree with those who say that the AA a300's lavs stink strongly of urine. On both legs of my trip I had stinky bathrooms. Things must really be bad for AA.


"Are you a pretender... or a thoroughbred?!" - Professor Matt Miller
User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4452 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 4720 times:

It isn't a problem with the lav per se, it must be a problem with the passengers using and abusing the lavs!

I've been on dozens of AA Airbus flights and have yet to notice anything wrong with the lavs. Granted, I've only flown the Airbus between Miami and JFK, EWR (up until a year ago) and SJU, but having logged probably 20+ flights over the past year and a half on these birds, I have never seen (or smelled) any problem with the lavs.


User currently offlineFLY2LIM From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1184 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 4705 times:

Thanks for all the comments. I think the comment about the cleaning contract in Lima may be accurate. Does anyone realize that AA now outsources the security for their flights arriving/departing LIM? In other words, it's people who wear the same ol' blue and white uniforms but they are not AA staff. I have a good friend at AA in LIM and she tells me that they are outsourcing everything. The only thing that AA personnel does at this time is ticket counter, baggage service, and reservations. They also have a local F/A base in LIM.
As far as wanting to turn the plane around quickly, my aircraft landed from MIA on time, around 10:30 p.m., for an 11:50 p.m. departure. This flight arrived full and left full. There is no way that you wait to clean the toilets in a bird that carries 250 pax and that has flown one 5 hour leg. In one bathroom, I didn't find any soap to wash my hands. That is bad. I may find myself writing to AA.
Thanks for the comments.
FLY2LIM



Faucett. La primera linea aerea del Peru.
User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 8 hours ago) and read 4681 times:

@UNDAEROSPACE: I know that for the US the 7e7 is a wonder aircraft - and we will see how it performes.

But I didnt know that a 7e7 would clean itself.

If AA has no more money for cleaning staff etc, their planes will look bad. So next time fly with an airline that cleans the lavatories - very simple thing.
And I don't wonder why AA isn't satisfied with the 300, if maintenance and pilot training is as bad as lavatory cleaning  Wink/being sarcastic



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User currently offlineAA787 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 610 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4333 times:

AA does a quick turn around in LIM and in UIO. They do not consider those airports to be extremely safe. That is why no AA plane ever spends the night at either of those airports and that is also why they turn around so quickly.

Source: AA ticketcounter representative when I asked about the quick turn arounds.

AA787



ET In NYC
25 Post contains images Akjetblue : I'll probably get smacked for this one but... JetBlue cleans the Lavs on every turn, even our 35 min turns Fly JetBlue ! Fly New Clean Planes that don
26 Aerobalance : Akjetblue, Given enough turbulence, every plane, old or new, shakes and rattles. They're designed too. Now let's see if you know why they are designed
27 AA787 : Another problem that B6 may not have to deal with as much as AA is the inexperience of the passengers. I have heard stories of places like LIM and PAP
28 WesternA318 : "It isn't AA's fault that people have bad aim." Nope, its all blamed on the parents! And the own adult in a LOT of cases, as I realized on a flight fr
29 Dayflyer : Nymbertwelve, I have a good friend who works for AA, and the problem is not pilot training. Airbus is not exempt from liability, albeit a lousy toilet
30 BIGBlack : My experiences on AA A300's have led me to be one for the retirement of all A300 a/c
31 WesternA318 : Off the topic slightly, but can anyone tell me where CO/EA's 300s went?
32 Klkla : I flew an American A300 from San Jose Costa Rica to MIA two months ago and although the interior was 'dated' it was clean and well-maintained. I would
33 Scorpio : Off the topic slightly, but can anyone tell me where CO/EA's 300s went? They're all over the place really. Some have been scrapped, others are stored,
34 OHLHD : The A300 is work horse. Every A300´s interior I have been in was quite misrable, but the A/C brought me to my destination, and that is what counts. D
35 BIGBlack : Once again, I need to do a trip report on my A300 flight from Miami to BOS. People were praying for shits sakes. Quite the turn off. Anyway, I am glad
36 Gilesdavies : U2 and FR only have 20min turnarounds and their aircrafts are cleaned when they return to base at the end of 8-10 rotations and they manage to keep th
37 NYCAAer : The A300 tranatlantic was a temporary measure until the 777s were delivered. The last A300 flight to LHR was flown in 2001. The 10 A300s that were use
38 Post contains images A350 : @Flybyguy I hope you have uploaded some pretty pics at a.net A350
39 SLVRBLT : A lot of it has to do with the passengers themselves, unfortunately. Some poorer countries lack more than you realize. If you look at the interior con
40 NumberTwelve : @SLVRBLT, so people from South America are dirty , sleazy and pi****g onto the floor? In Germany we had a game called "Wer hat Angst vorm schwarzen Ma
41 Post contains links and images Gilesdavies : If AA dont want the A300's sure Monarch will take them on and give them some TLC which is what they sound like they desperately need. Monarch's were d
42 Jfkaua : Does A300 have PTV??????? IFE yeah on screens (which the last time I travelled didn´t work. Yeah some of them did at one point... anyone have shots
43 N328KF : When I flew to San Juan last year, it was on 757s. Still the case? (Out of ORD)
44 Malaysia : I even brought a bottle of LAV juice with me once non revving on an 747-200, cause I knew the blue juice would get old. I personally poured more deode
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