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Aer Lingus A330 Ground Incident  
User currently offlineB777ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 548 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 12510 times:

Just read about this:

Gale force gusts at Dublin Airport today caused 2 Aer Lingus Airbus A330 parked besides one another to collide at 1255. The aircraft were awaiting departure for Boston and New York.

Not very up to speed on their fleet but I think they don't have very many A330's to begin with and if so, this would put a serious crimp in their schedule if these two aircraft are out of service for any length of time.



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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2538 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 12361 times:

how do they collide? if they are parked? aren't they choked?

im a bit confused, just looking for some clarification



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User currently offlineBMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 860 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks ago) and read 12344 times:

One of them might have been moving on the apron and if the apron was wet then the winds might have blown it.


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User currently offlineAerlingus330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 834 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12286 times:

The A330s were probley parked close to one annother...

Does anyone know the cost of the damage and how long it will take to fix?
Aer Lingus have 4 Airbus A330-300 and 3 Airbus A330-200, When you have 7 aircraft and 2 are out of service for a while, that is trouble...

regards
aerlingus330



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User currently offlineBMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 860 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12261 times:

They might have to lease a BD a332 if BD have a spare. Saying that though that would leave them without a cover a/c. Maybe aer lingus will lease a 767 or 747 if they need to. Thats on acmi though.


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User currently offlineGofly From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 1727 posts, RR: 39
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12243 times:
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The aircraft were on stand with no passengers

http://www.rte.ie/news/2005/0101/weather.html

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1885767/4/



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User currently offlineBMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 860 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12227 times:

I am lost now in how they collided?


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User currently offlineGofly From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 1727 posts, RR: 39
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12216 times:
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I know what you mean, it is a bit strange. Unless it was just the wings that touched?


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User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12194 times:

The nose of one rolled into the area just behind the wing of the other (according to latest reports). Looks like it was EI133 DUB-SNN-BOS and EI107 DUB-JFK, both seem to have been cancelled. No word yet on how long they'll be out of service, or how they came to collide. (Somebody not setting the parking brake correctly, or a lock of chocks?)


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User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2165 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 12158 times:

last year straight line winds at RSW moved chocked commercial aircraft...believe it was an AA aircraft with nose in the air in the pix shot by airport security that night. get enough air speed over any airfoil and you get lift....

User currently offlinePlanespotterx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12078 times:

Although I posted a thread on this earlier it seems there was a Tornado touch-down around the Dublin area at the same time the gust-front moved through, the Tornado overturned cars and entire roofs have been blown off some houses.
I think gusts of 80mph were reported too, so I wouldnt be too surprised to hear it was either related from a Tornado or straight-line gusts.


User currently offlineFlybmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 12042 times:

BMED,

bmi do not have a spare A330. All 3 are in service on the IAD/ORD/LAS/BGI/UVF/ANU routes.

Happy New Year


User currently offlineGofly From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 1727 posts, RR: 39
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11864 times:
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Hope they won't have to lease one, but they might have to look to Air Atlanta if they do.


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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 11806 times:
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A few photos of the aircraft here

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User currently offlineB777ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11704 times:

Just got this email from a fellow I presume works on them.

When the 330's are parked at the gates after coming in from a flight, upon landing the brakes are very hot so when docked at the gates, the are parked with Brakes Off and wheels chocked instead. On the later -200 models a cooling fan is used to cool brakes but its not on the -300's which were in this incident. I know this because i work on them. Fingers crossed it wasnt EI-CRK which was involved because it would have been less than 24 hours after being released from the Hangars after a heavy C-Check!!

It appears EI-CRK is one of them.


User currently offlineCapri From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 446 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11674 times:

After looking at the pictures, i don't think that much damaged and aircrafts will be in no time back in the air.

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 11669 times:

hey,

in the photos on planepictures.net it seems that there is not too much damage on the nose or wing of the A330s.

Luckily the A330 has a low cockpit. If it was a B777-200 and a A330 the 777 would have a nasty gash on top of the cockpit.



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User currently offlineGearup From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 578 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 11400 times:

http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=291854
http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=291856
http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.php?id=291855

Does not look too bad!

GU



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User currently offlineAerlingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11016 times:

The two A330's were parked side by side at stand 34 and 35 at dublin airport. The wind caught the side of one of the A330's and literally pushed it to collide with the other side on. Passengers on the New York flight are to travel tomorrow on an additional service, while boston pax will be rebooked on the scheduled ei133 from dublin, and second service from shannon. A mini tornado hit a suburb of dublin near to dublin airport turning over cars and vans and causing servere damage to over 100 homes. It all came out of no where and was very unexpected.


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User currently offlineDogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10736 times:

Yeah, looking at the pics i rekon they will be back in service within a day. The paint might just be scratched.

Dog


User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 9975 times:

Having a 332 out of service will certainly impact DUB-LAX, since EI 330's cannot fly that route (at least not without some MAJOR payload restrictions).

Steve


User currently offlineUa777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 9936 times:

Sure all she needs is a bit of Crisco and some shimming.....

I would say more than a day. The a/c might look ok but its not everyday a 330 decides to hide under the wing of another 330. The surfaces of that wing will probably have to be removed and inspected if not replaced....

Does anyone know how much space (ft.) the wings of the 330 can flex? In relation to that number how high is the cockpit compared to the tip of the wing...

Thanks again.

UA777222



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User currently offlineEi2ksea From Ireland, joined Jul 2004, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8609 times:

This is a real pain just after the christmas period with many Irish and Americans heading home after the holidays. Whats even worse is that EI-DAA is the favoured A332 for the LAX service since it has them precious PTV's!! :-(

Regards
Ph



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13943 posts, RR: 63
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8325 times:

Removing the skin of the wing? Do you have an idea what an operation this will be? No, they´ll probably visually check the are, maybe remove the slat for inspection and send a tank diver into the wing to have a look at the ribs and interior structure. Then the area (inside and outside) will be NDTd, usually be doing an eddy current inspection. The same will apply to the cockpit roof of the other A330.

Jan


User currently offlineDstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1460 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7614 times:

No, only one EI A330 200 has PTV's in economy class.

A considerable number of passengers are overnighting in Dublin and EI are not even certain that they can hire in aircraft and crews to run some services tomorrow. Not an ideal time of year to find crews.


That little storm was very vicious. Considerable damage to some houses and cars in an area not too far from the airport.

I live a long way from the airport but the rain and wind was tropical in intensity, tres bent over with rain levels just astonishing, even for Ireland, and being blown straight out of the gutters.
It came and went very suddenly too.


25 Post contains images Rossyboy : On New Year's Eve, I was spotting at Dublin, around the back where old runway 23 used to be. I had to get my dad to stop for 10 mins as I saw one of t
26 Ua777222 : MD11, Sorry about that. I should have said that they were going to remove the affected surfaces and test them. And seeing how your professional backgr
27 Dstc47 : From RTE Irish television today a report of the ongoing saga .......................................... 03 January 2005 09:37 Aer Lingus has cancelled
28 Lucaschap : Aer Lingus announced this morning that they have now a leased B747 in EINN and hope for it to be ready tomorrow, this will help to ease the backlog.
29 Bazzaldonbond : note the door on the plane on the right is damaged probably from the jetway its bent back
30 Miamix707 : So which 747 is this? Could the MCO service get a different aircraft other than their A332s this week?
31 Post contains images BAtripleseven : The Incident doesnt look that bad. Definitley some damage to the plane but fortunately no pax were harmed!
32 Clipper002 : World operated an MD-11 DUB/JFK on the 2nd and another MD-11 JFK/SNN/DUB last night. The first a/c was positioning back to the states from KWI and the
33 Gulfstream : This incident highlights Aer Lingus operating a fairly intense schedule to the US from Ireland using it's seven A330's. One of the planes involved in
34 Gulfstream : News from Ireland this morning is that service has returned to normal. Does anyone know the status of the two damaged 330's EI-CRK and EI-DAA? Are the
35 Wjcandee : Ed, sounds like fun to be able to squeeze a profitable couple of flights into the middle of non-revenue (ferry) or marginal-revenue (first leg after A
36 EIPremier : A 747-200 has been used for several JFK-SNN flights. Anyone know the reg? Is it Air Atlanta Icelandic? Also, what about the status of the damaged A330
37 HAWK21M : From the pics,It doesn't look like Major work. How did the Aircraft move.How many chocks were used.Was there any NOTAM on the Tornado. regds MEL
38 Vatry : EI-DAA now back in service. 747 was Air Plus Comet. Martinair and Condor 763 were also used and I believe a MyTravel 332 and Air Plus Comet A310
39 Greenjet : The -300 that was damaged was out of the hangar today. Don't know if it's ready to go back in to service yet though.
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