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DUS-PBM-DUS On LTU Starting 05/2005  
User currently offlineAnair80 From Suriname, joined Oct 2000, 245 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2045 times:


I just saw an advertisement with a company called "FlySouth"

http://www.flysouth.ltd.uk/index.htm

LTU will be starting flights on behalf of FlySouth (a British company) to Paramaribo, Suriname from Dusseldorf Germany.
Does anyone have any other info/heard any other things regarding these flights? and or the company?

I guess they'll be using the A330?? as the pic shows on there website.

This seems pretty cool, flying from Suriname to Germany...! Havn't had these flights for decades...
I believe SLM used to fly charters to Germany back in the good old days, but not sure... or didn't they?

Comments anyone?

Anair80

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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Suriname is charming but obviously few Germans and English will be interested to go there... DUS is very close to the Netherlands and these flights are obviously aimed at the Dutch-Surinamese market. KLM/SLM has a duopoly, the Suriname government forbids other carriers on the lucrative AMS-PBM market so these airlines can underserve and overprice these flights.
Any competition on these routes is great though !
I think SLM also mainly visited Germany when for instance there were problems flying to Amsterdam or as a diversion Sometimes the Dutch-Suriname political contacts were tensious because of Surinames corrupt earlier governments. Also their DC-8s were overhauled in Luxemburg.



nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 506 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

I agree, it's supposed to compete with KLM and Surinam Airways. In the past we've seen so many airlines try out that route via alternative connections (British Caledonian, ATA/Singapore Airlines, Citybird, Arrow Air etc.) but in the end, people would rather pay a few extra bucks and take a direct flight.

User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

DUS seems to be a little bit too far away from the Netherlands in my mind. They should fly from NRH (Dusseldorf-Niederrhein), it is directly on the other side of the border next to Arnheim. I could see that a little bit more promising, because NRH already is well known in the Netherlands.

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1916 times:

DUS seems to be a little bit too far away from the Netherlands in my mind.

DUS is actually very popular among travelers from the Netherlands, I see it every time when I park my car there, there are a lot of cars with a Dutch license plate on the parking lots and in parking garages.

Patrick


User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1885 times:

Sabena332:

Thanks for your correction regarding Dutch passengers and DUS. I never came by car to there.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

I never came by car to there.

Good choice! The parking fees there are simply outrageous and pure rip-off. In the past few months I also took the train because it was way cheaper. Anyway, from tomorrow I will have a new "homebase" and I hope that HAM's parking fees are lower  Big thumbs up.

Patrick


User currently offlineDakota From Netherlands, joined Feb 2000, 148 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1848 times:

JoFMO: NRN-PBM is not possible with A330's; the 757 is the largest plane NRN may handle. At the end of 2003 there were rumours about Air Holland starting flights from NRN to PBM, with a stop in Sal, but this never took place.

About FlySouth: their website looks terrible! I would say: if you are planning to fly, you must have a good website. If not, is does not seem reliable and nobody will choose you.

Grtz Dakota


User currently offlineAMS From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1692 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

Today I came from DUS, DUS is just such a GREAT airport, only a 1.45 Hour Drive from Central Netherlands

Regards,
AMS


User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 506 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1785 times:

Most Dutch people from Surinamese origin live in the western part of Holland, inbetween Amsterdam and Rotterdam. Since DUS is not "just around the corner", you better have really good deals to compete with KLM and Surinam Airways out of Amsterdam.
Ofcourse, there's a lot of Surinamese people all over Holland, but I not that much to fill a weekly widebody out of DUS.....


User currently offlineKkfla737 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1033 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1757 times:

Surinam Airways to my knowldege just serves Amsterdam and Miami outside of the nation. Is this true? Another link internationally cannot hurt.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1699 times:

Surinam Airways to my knowldege just serves Amsterdam and Miami outside of the nation. Is this true? Another link internationally cannot hurt.

No, they also serve George Town, Curacao, Belem, and Port of Spain, among some others. Though Miami and Amsterdam are their only destinations outside of the region.



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User currently offlineAMS From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1692 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

No, they also serve George Town, Curacao, Belem, and Port of Spain, among some others. Though Miami and Amsterdam are their only destinations outside of the region

At the moment PY has discontinued their service to MIA. Passengers are routed via CUR

Regards,
AMS


User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3492 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1649 times:


I think they have no other choice than the A330 to send. The times where LTU has three long-hauliers; Tristar500, B763 and MD-11 are gone...

I guess DUS is just steps from the Netherlands; Maastricht, Venlo...and so crossing borders and transfers are not so bad, not so hard !!!


User currently offlineAnair80 From Suriname, joined Oct 2000, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

I guess we just have to see what happens and what reactions will be given when the flights are actually kicked off in May'05.
I hope something nice can come out of it. Who know maybe it can be successful, maybe not!
Lets all sit back, wait and see what happens..

Anair80


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1644 times:

At the moment PY has discontinued their service to MIA. Passengers are routed via CUR

The current service is being operated by airJamaica. It is PY 720/721 and operates three days a week (TuThSu) via Montego Bay. It is only a temporary measure, and rumours it that they will return to using Miami Air to operate the service in April.



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User currently offlineAnair80 From Suriname, joined Oct 2000, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

Humm, Miami air? Cool....
I liked them... and they have the nice 738...
Well things are pretty messed up regarding the MIA-PBM-MIA flights.
People have been left stranded at both PBM and MIA as things are trying to get organized. DCA screwed up PY's system due to their bankruptcy.
Well i sure do hope all will go much better pretty soon. Maybe SLM can fly to MIA on its own pretty soon. Any one knows what is holding up with this issue?

Anair80


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