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User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9519 times:

http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=56855

ATLANTA (AP) -- Delta Air Lines' plan to cut up to 69,000 jobs starts today.

The plan, first announced in September, will be spread over 18 months.

The Atlanta-based carrier has said it will cut between 15,000 to 18,000 administrative jobs, 16,000 to 2,000 technical operations jobs and 29,000 to 31,000 customer service jobs.

The airline is asking employees to voluntarily retire or accept severance packages. Other employees may have to be laid off.

The jobs cuts are part of a broad cost-cutting plan by the nation's third-largest airline in its effort to return to profitabilit

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Well Ill sit back and listen to those here who believe that the UNIONS are to blame......If the Unions were not involved do you really believe that the employee would be better off????......Do you really think the companies would pay their employees better or offer them a better compensation plan????....explain......


What is sadder is that while the general employees are taking it into the shorts the Executive Board, those who are making/approval all the bad decessions are still able to keep their multi-million BONUSES not to say the Country Club.
memberships.

My CEO refuses to raise airfairs any higher than the already cheap fares they already are.I am a airline employee who will be giving back 11% of their wages in a few days......I have taken a somewhat bold attitude that if my company doesnt want to raise fares to help themselves out and instead wants it from me then I feel I own a portion of each airfare that is sold, my tolorance for people who cry IS THAT THE LOWEST PRICE when I tell them $225.00RT LAX/JFK with no advance notice is very low, a few weeks ago we offered a $135.00RT from CLT to any CA city fully refundable and NO ADVANCE........GOD...how much lower are we suppose to go......

The customer has to accept their share of the blame to......


Did You Ever Think Freedom Could Be this Bad
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User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3347 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9360 times:

Well Ill sit back and listen to those here who believe that the UNIONS are to blame......If the Unions were not involved do you really believe that the employee would be better off????......Do you really think the companies would pay their employees better or offer them a better compensation plan????....explain......

So do you think the unions are protecting Delta employees?

Sorry, they aren't . Delta has no unions, except for ALPA with the pilots and I think TWU with the dispatchers. So the packages you say the unions are responsible for fighting for were actually conceived by management.

AAndrew


User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9330 times:

>So do you think the unions are protecting Delta employees?<


The Corporations and current adminstration(BUSH) have removed much of the Bite the UNION once had.

But hey thanks for sticken up for the big guy!!!!!!!



Did You Ever Think Freedom Could Be this Bad
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17450 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9300 times:

"My CEO refuses to raise airfairs any higher than the already cheap fares they already are.I"

Are you kidding me with this? This is the US, not the USSR.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9259 times:

Lets see now....69,000 should be the entire DL family. If DL goes under, which I really don't think is going to happen, that's 69,000.
Now, if you take the max numbers in the above post, you add 18,000, 2,000 and 31,000. That does not add up to 69,000. Its more sensationalism from the press. Don't buy those numbers, people.
safe



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9250 times:

Rsmith6621a . . .several thoughts here. Since this is not the Non-Av forum I won't presume to debate you here regarding current administration(BUSH) have removed much of the Bite the UNION once had you spouted forth. We can save that for another forum.

And I will agree, this part of your post sucks. What is sadder is that while the general employees are taking it into the shorts the Executive Board, those who are making/approval all the bad decessions are still able to keep their multi-million BONUSES not to say the Country Club memberships. Remember 9/11 and Gordon Bethune and others at CO did without their salaries in the last quarter of 01. I also remember at that time, that DLs CEO and executive staff kept al of their compensation. You make a good point here. Sacrifice must start from the top.

Unions, for whatever it's worth, are not concerned with the employees . . . thats my opinion. What they are concerned with is the big dollar payroll for the union bosses and lining the pockets of the lobbyists and others. Unions long, long ago lost their effectiveness because they forgot their basic tenet was to take care of the people that paid the dues. Simple as that.


User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1335 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9235 times:

Rsmith.... one to many zero's on that figure.... and the article has the same typo error.... DL is expected to cut another 6900 not 69000 positions


Wally Bird Ruled the Skys!
User currently offlineJmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3270 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9220 times:

69,000??? Isn't that the entire workforce?


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User currently offlineJetMechMD80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 380 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9182 times:

Rsmith,

Interesting how you left out this part of the story in your little anti-bush propaganda piece.


Delta has lost more than $6 billion dollars since early 2001, during which time it has already eliminated 16,000 jobs and cut the pay of other employees, including its executives.

Now you can rant and rave about how those evil Republican executives dream at night about screwing the poor little union worker, but from seeing your past posts, we all know the real story. Its about your unhealthy hatred of our President. Get over it, the election is over, your side lost, and even if you had won, it would have changed nothing.

Happy New Year  Smile



"I get along great with nobody"~ Billy Idol
User currently offlineRsmith6621a From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 194 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9190 times:

>Bethune and others at CO did without their salaries in the last quarter of 01<


Im not talking SALARIES.....IM talking about bonuses and Golf Club memeberships....during all the BK filings several past CEO at my line still collected mega bonuses and LIFETIME rides in FirstClass not only for them but their childern as well and pensions.......these privlages were finally striped away in the past two months as a result of employee/union pressure.

Bethune is also a different sort of CEO he involves himself with the employees other than those in the Halls of the corporate HQ.





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User currently offlineAcvitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9156 times:

I will note that Delta has a new CEO and many of the upper management team have left over the last year either by choice or asked to depart.

People like Vicki Escarra are finally gone.

The new Exec team declined bonuses and have taken pay hits as well.

One must be careful not to confuse the old DL management team with the new. The new team got a ship floundering and almost lost her. But have been doing a good job avoiding the rocks of BK.

The Comair debacle did nothing to help but, time will tell if it was critical or not. Much may depend on how DL treats their customers who were affected and how they make ammends.

Just my $.02

ACVitale


User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8997 times:

that is true...this is really a "NEW DELTA" with entirely new managment!

On a side note, I went to Delta's website and they are actually hiring a large number or CSAs and Ready Reserve agents...which now that I see this news, I think is REAL odd!


User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8985 times:

Hey, great....another thread where Randall ties some sort of failure to the Bush Administration....for once I thought I'd open a spin-free thread, but that hope was a fat chance lol...thanks for providing us with nothing less than crap.

DeltaGuy


User currently offlineNonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8985 times:

ATLANTA (AP) -- Delta Air Lines' plan to cut up to 69,000 jobs starts today.


AAAAAHAHAHAHAHA 69,000 jobs?  Laugh out loud

I hope everyone sees just how careless the media is.

B


User currently offlineNorthwest_guy From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 217 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8876 times:

Yeah, I am behind the times...

So when did Vicki "Escarry" leave?

I have a hard time believing that Delta will cut anywhere near 69,000 jobs...is there even that many to cut?


User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4113 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8831 times:

...The customer has to accept their share of the blame to.........

What a typical airline employee attitude. It's always someone else's fault. Like the little kid who says, 'Not MEEEE!' when their parent asks who broke the vase.

COSTS ARE A FUNCTION OF REVENUES...NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!!!

You ask, 'How low are we supposed to go with airfares?' Just because YOUR airline can't go lower doesn't mean another airline can't. So don't whine!!! You haven't proven any law of economics, only that YOUR company has screwed its own economics up big-time. And with that as FACT, you want to point the finger anywhere else but at yourself. The whole airline industry is filled with good, hard-working people. But it's also filled--at least at Legacy-Land--with workers who feel a sense of entitlement and who believe that if fat paychecks worked in the 1970s and 1980s, then by golly why not now???

How DARE you airline people say that the REVENUES should be raised to support YOUR salaries!!!! Do you even have a CLUE that yours is not the only industry seeing employee layoffs and reduced salaries??? How about high-tech and telecom, to name two huge constituencies???

Look at makers of personal computers. Go back to 1995 and see what it would cost to get a 'decent' PC from someone like Dell. Now check in 2004: the price is much LESS and the capabilities much HIGHER!!! Do you hear Dell employees WHINING about how unfair it is that people are paying less for PCs? No. And you know why not? Largely, because companies like these have figured out the economic realities and have learned to live (and succeed) within them. If some quack from Dell said that I needed to pay $5,000 for a PC again so his salary--or job--wouldn't go away, he'd be laughed at till he died.

And when you airline employees go shopping for PCs and other stuff, aren't you GLAD that prices are lower and performance higher? Makes your purchase much more valuable, doesn't it? Aren't you GLAD that your PC costs less than $1,000 when the same thing wasn't even available for five times that price a few short years ago??? What do PC makers know that you guys don't. And forget about leaning on that tired crutch about 'fuel prices.' And you're going to be a hypocrite and say that airline passengers are 'to blame' for demanding low fares? How's that for the Pot calling the Kettle black???

If Mr John Doe who got layed off from a telecom company (and has NO salary) wants to fight for the lowest possible airfare, you're gonna tell him that he has to accept some of the BLAME??? Par for the course from the finger-pointers.

The world is FULL of Mr. John Doe's like this. They either have no salaries, or they have been forced to take much lesser jobs and the much lesser incomes that go with them. Don't go around trying to impress us with the financial ruins within your companies, as though your industry is somehow a unique example.

Chris in NH



User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3627 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8830 times:

According to Yahoo, Delta has 70k employees total. Bahahahahaha.

-77



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User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8718 times:

....I have taken a somewhat bold attitude that if my company doesnt want to raise fares to help themselves out and instead wants it from me...

So far, so good! Also, not so much a bold attitude as it a statement indicating recognition of an obvious fact.

The customer has to accept their share of the blame to.....

Assuming you mean to say that customers must accept their share of the blame too, as in "also," am I missing something or do I detect a contradiction of the first opinion quoted? Does the first statement quoted above not establish that it is your comapany who "doesn't want to raise fares...?" Moreover, how can customers be blamed in any way for accepting absurd loss-leader fares that management is stupid enough to continually offer at a time when demand for air travel is at an all-time high?



User currently offlineJetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 852 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8310 times:

I've added JetMechMD80 to my respected users list for his wise opinion of our president.

In any event, this will be 6900 jobs. It is unfortunate, as Delta is my favorite carrier - but they need to do something to stay ahead of the game. I hope that this works and gets them back on track and that our government keeps us as safe as the last three years. Another incident in the aviation industry would be horrible for not only Delta but all other airlines finally making some strides.


User currently offlineDl021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8273 times:
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Just one thing to point out here...in the initial post the numbers listed differed from the report referenced by a factor of ten. It was not once, but almost throughout.
15,000 to 18,000 administrative jobs, 16,000 to 2,000 technical operations jobs and 29,000 to 31,000 customer service jobs.

When I read the article it said that the numbers were between between 1,500 to 1,800 administrative jobs, 1,600 to 2,000 technical operations jobs and 2,900 to 3,100 customer service jobs.....

Now, with this uncorrected by the original poster, and the complete overstatement (not just a typo, we all do that) someone tell me why we should accept any more information or opinion as valid from this poster.

The new team at DL has made difficult decisions and kept the airline afloat. They cut their own pay first then asked the rest of the team to take their hits, but also gave them hope for the future with profit sharing and other incentives.

DL has a long row to hoe to get back to profitability, but they can get there. Unions sure ain't gonna help them get there willingly. The only union at DL waited until the last possible moment to do what was necessary to help the airline and took advantage of the interim period to allow its members to bail out with the company's money in the form of early retirements and guaranteed packages.

The management is not perfect, and probably has its shares of horses asses just like every other corporation in the US. The people there, however, deserve the opportunity to succeed and the airline has to restructure to make it happen. It's going to hurt, and it is not over yet. I hope my neighbors make it through unscathed. I support Delta and its team.



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User currently offlinePbiflyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8250 times:

ChrisNH,

It's not fair to compare Dell Computers to any airline operation at all. Computer component parts have all come down in price to Dell, and the other PC makers. So therefore they can well lower the prices on their PC's, and they have. The airlines are faced with nothing but increased costs, the least of which is employee salaries. Fuel is up higher than its ever been as well as tires, aircraft parts etc. You name it and the airlines are paying more than they used to have to pay.

It is FAIR to say that airline fares have not kept pace with inflation or any other cost comparison you can come up with. Airfares I have paid over the last couple of years are far less than I paid 5 - 10 years ago. Just one example if I may: I recently paid $138.00 for a round trip ticket from PBI to Atl, going up one day and back the next and not over a Saturday. The same trip 10 years ago cost me $625.00! Now, you tell me where is the blame to be laid? Despite the fact that I love the low airfares, they are too low, and are the main reason airlines can't make any money that have been around for a long time, and have long term employees who are entitled to increases in salaries. The so called LCC ailines are fairly new and their employees make less money. This will change as they gain longevity with the LCC airlines. They too will start to have problems with airfares artificially low.

I am not an airline employee, but as a passenger paying the low fares I have to take some of the blame, like it or not. It is time to stop bashing airline employees and give them some credit for staying in there to help us, the paying customer.

Since DL only has to deal with the Pilots Union, Union's can't be the blame for the employees salaries. New management at DL is also taking pay cuts along with the other employees. The employees are not happy, but to save their jobs and their airline they agree to less pay. How would you like to take a 10 - 30 % reduction in pay like some Pilots and other airline employees are taking? I bet you wouldn't like it and if you owned your own company, you would raise your prices to help pay your own salary in order to survive.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7878 times:

Pbiflyer,
You said,
"Just one example if I may: I recently paid $138.00 for a round trip ticket from PBI to Atl, going up one day and back the next and not over a Saturday. The same trip 10 years ago cost me $625.00!"


To that I say, do you not think that maybe, just maybe, you are not paying too little now, but you paid WAY too much 10 years ago? Shoot, even Kmart could stay in business if they found people to pay $625 for a $100 coat.

I just can't buy the fact that customers are at fault here. They HAVE a choice. OTHER airlines are providing lower cost fairs and ARE making money. They are doing it by good management and controlling costs, and when I say costs, I'm not ONLY referring to salaries. Shoot, there is a website out there that shows Southwest Pilots make just about as much -or more- than anyone out there except for Delta Pilots, especially when you look at the fact they are flying 737's. Controlling costs means doing things right, fast gate turns, similar fleets, no frills, etc.

You also said,

"How would you like to take a 10 - 30 % reduction in pay like some Pilots and other airline employees are taking? I bet you wouldn't like it and if you owned your own company, you would raise your prices to help pay your own salary in order to survive. "

You weren't talking to me, but NO I WOULDN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you had ANY business sense, you would NEVER raise your prices above market rate instead of doing a labor cut. If you price yourself out of the market there is no reason to stay in business because soon you won't be selling ANYTHING. You would, as a responsible owner, first, look for other ways to cut costs, then you would layoff or cut pay. One basic business rule, you NEVER raise prices over the cost of inflation.
You are basically saying to Delta, "Raise your prices. People won't mind paying more. Sure they can get the same flight from another carrier, but they really like paying more just to keep someone in a job. No one really uses the internet to find the lowest price so they won't notice. Orbitz? Expedia? Who uses those?"

Geeze. Yea. Ok.

Remember that coat example above? Bring some competition who can sell that $100 coat for $100, i.e., Wal*Mart, and look what happens. I didn't see anyone saying, if that darn Wal*Mart wouldn't have come to town all those Kmart people would be employed because we don't mind paying $625 for a $100 coat.
And before you bring up "what about all those little mom and pop businesses that closes, what about all those people," well, we are NOT talking about a small business vs large business here. We are talking DELTA (and U.S. Air) vs other similar sized businesses.

I REPEAT, it is NOT THE PUBLICS FAULT..
it is NOT THE PUBLICS FAULT..
it is NOT THE PUBLICS FAULT..

It is bad management AND employees (not all).




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User currently offlineThunder9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 219 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7835 times:

PBIflyer --

I've just added you to my respected user list. Very good points re: comparing Dell to the airline industry. BTW, I've a friend that *used* to work for Dell, and he still bitches about Dell managements' handling of staff reductions, even two years later.

One thing that many people blindly post in these forums is how "labor costs" need to go down. Well, with most airline employees in the field making $10-$25 per hour, does it seem that those salaries will bust the airlines? Probably not. I recall seeing an article on the Fortune Magazine website just after US went into bankruptcy the first time and just before UA entered. The article stated that the labor costs of the six U.S. legacy carriers on 9/11, 65%-70% of those costs were at the airlines' HQ campuses. Now, I know that there are plenty of admin, clerical, entry-level mgmt, etc working at HQ whose salaries aren't high, but how much of that 65-70% goes to upper-management? I'm sure that it is a large percentage. And working for AA, I still wonder to this day how the AMR Board of Directors allows AA to employ three (3) VP's for each department. Yes, a VP, a Senior VP, and an Executive VP. I'm sure each of the folks in those positions make more than a dozen rampers, gate agents, mechanics, or F/A's combined.

Also, folks need to remember that the legacy carriers have pension plans that they pay huge $$ into every year, while LCC's don't have the burden of pensions to pay into.

Yes, the airlines, especially upper-mgmt heavy legacies, must make changes. But they cannot continue to ask their lowest paid front-line field workers to give up more than they already have.

Agreeing with your post, PBIflyer, the traveling public does need to pay more to fly. I'm not talking obscene amounts more. Perhaps 7-15% more, depending on the trip length. Regardless of which side of the "financial fence" anyone in here is on, all must agree that airfares should come up a bit, especially when airfares in some U.S. markets are cheaper than riding Amtrak or Greyhound!

There are many factors at work which are making it difficult for the legacy carriers - some the airlines can control, others they cannot. But, in the U.S. at least, the traveling public needs to be willing to cover the airlines' costs associated with flying.

-J




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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2045 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7758 times:

You know,

I was just watching a Home Depot commercial while reading Thunder9's post. Do you want to know what it was about?

The commercial stated that last year, Home Depot permanently lowered prices on 5000 items, and in the same breath they stated that their employees also contribute to their success because they give customers their expertise for free.

Now, Home Depot is experiencing, lets see. Higher freight costs (gas), higher energy costs (ever heat or cool a depot?). Higher employee costs including benefits, higher costs of building new stores as customers are demanding one or more in each town. Humm, sounds familiar huh. You don't see them asking their customers to pay more. They are saying to them look what we did for you. We lowered the price of 5,000 items

I don't see Depot hurting.

Everyone needs to quit crying about how bad the Airlines have it because tickets are cheap.

Get good management and clean up the labor heavy force and the Airlines will be fine.



[Edited 2005-01-02 03:10:21]


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User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7718 times:

Its simple economics here, folks. DL and USAirways will not raise price because the competition won't let them. If the said airlines were to raise fares 20 bucks per round trip, do you really think independence Air, AirTran, Spirit and Southwest will do the same?
Hell no. That's their leverage.....low fares....thats why people beat a path to their door...el cheap-o as I call them.
Their not el-cheap-o's if they have fares equal or higher then the big guys. The big guys match em....and thats where their troubles start. They play right into the jaws of the el-cheap-o's because the big six cannot sustain cheap fares over a long period of time. They are not structured to do so like e- cheap-o is.
safe



If two people agree on EVERYTHING, then one isn't necessary.
25 Ltbewr : First of all, I suspect that the real numbers are 6 thousand, 9 hundred, not 69,000. It takes a lot of people to run an airline 24/7/365(366 in leap y
26 Coa764 : My CEO refuses to raise airfairs any higher than the already cheap fares they already are.I am a airline employee who will be giving back 11% of their
27 Ual777contrail : ~~~~~~~~The Corporations and current adminstration(BUSH) have removed much of the Bite the UNION once had. But hey thanks for sticken up for the big g
28 Jeb94 : I'm sorry but you can't compare airline economics to Home depot, Wal-mart, Dell, or any other retail economic model. Airlines sell travel, which is a
29 Newbieflyer : I totally agree with you, Jeb94, not to mention the job of everyone working at an airline is to keep thousands of passengers a day safe in metal tubes
30 Flpuck6 : Very interesting ... it's hard to imagine they have to let go of even more employees ... especially when DL can barely provide proper man-power to han
31 RyanAFAMSP : I love so many of these posts. DL has the LOWEST union density of ANY of the 12 largest airlines except for B6, and last month its margins were the WO
32 1Millionflyer : Jeb94 You can certainly compare Dell, Wal*Mart, and Home Depot to Delta. To the general public a product or service and the price of them is a functio
33 Jumpseat70 : Rsmith6211a or whatever your misprinted name is. Get your facts straight. You misquoted your own article. It's 6,900 jobs!! And we've known about it f
34 NonRevKing : Rsmith6211a or whatever your misprinted name is. Get your facts straight. You misquoted your own article. It's 6,900 jobs!! And we've known about it f
35 OPNLguy : >>>Delta has no unions, except for ALPA with the pilots and I think TWU with the dispatchers. Just for the record, Delta's dispatchers are not TWU, bu
36 Delta-flyer : 1Million ... excellent post! Just a couple of observations about WallMart, etc. versus airlines ... In the retail business, tremendous structural chan
37 Bucky707 : people are getting too worked up about this article. Back when the big announcement came out, Delta said it would be cutting about 7000 positions in a
38 Lnglive1011yyz : At my company, the pay scale went *down* after they brought in the Union. All the Union did was protect the workers that were constantly at odds with
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